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Arzel
June 15th, 2003, 11:57 AM
What happened to all of the messages in the general category of EzExpo?

All of the threads appear to be deleted. Anyone have any idea?

MatrixWatch
June 15th, 2003, 01:25 PM
I have no idea, but I am so sick about it. I received an email this morning from the manager of that forum. Last night I emailed him and told him that I was going to demote myself to standard member status because my being an asst. mgr. over there seemed to disrupt the quality of things. So many people were upset, and I was only trying to help them. Anyhow, he asked me if I knew about the EzExpo forum being cleared out, and I was confused. I logged on and was SHOCKED! I loved the fact that they had an archive of all those messages since the beginning. You could get a history of almost any matrix site by browsing those forums. Now its all gone. Some think that it might be MSN because of all the messages, but the strange thing is that only the "general" forum is cleared, and not the other sub-folders. I hope that VaioPleez, the manager, is able to get to the bottom of this.

Arzel
June 15th, 2003, 03:39 PM
I agree, I personally think it was alegator.

Anyone with any logical reasoning would not point the finger at you. If anything you have the least to gain from this act.

MatrixWatch
June 15th, 2003, 04:55 PM
I am still so upset about all that archived information just disappearing. Those posts were a gold mine of information. I just can't believe someone would do that. Whoever did it also made the manager, Vaiopleez, look really bad. He posted this morning about the reality of the matrix sites, and he can realistically see that I am offering help to people who have money invested in rogue sites. I can't believe that they are attacking him the way they are over there. He runs one of the best matrix forums on the internet, and I am shocked to see so many people turn on him so quickly.

alegator78
June 15th, 2003, 05:04 PM
You can think what you want. I don't go looking for watchdog. I only address him when I need too. Other wise I stay away. What in the world could I gain from doing that?

Arzel
June 15th, 2003, 05:15 PM
The Matrix world is crashing hard, and those most closely involved art losing it. Brand new sites with noone on any lists can't even get people to join, and everyone is blamming Watchdog.

This is sickening, try to do some good for other people, and those that need the help the most hate you the most as well.

A while ago I likened the matrix addiction similar to that of drug addiction, and the matrix world is crashing off it's high in a hard way.

MatrixWatch
June 15th, 2003, 05:19 PM
SCOTT,

You have had a personal vendetta against me from the very start. You made an effort to spread lies about me from the day the lawsuit was filed. It was you who downloaded the lawsuit from my site and posted it on the matrix-news.net forum to keep people from going to my site and hearing the real deal on some of these matrix sites. You have also made every attempt to keep people from believing what I have told them, and you have deleted every link to this site that exists for the people who have invested in rogue sites. You have been threatened by my site, movement, and cause from the very beginning. You are so incredibly defensive about this issue, that I am 75% convinced that it was you. I am just glad that YOU are not an admin right now so you can't delete this whole thread to cover up your tracks. These peope did not deserve to have their forum erased. Wiping out an entire forum's posts is the most unethical thing a forum moderator could do.

alegator78
June 15th, 2003, 05:35 PM
Yeah well I'm not happy eithier. I don't like people acusing me of doing something I had no reason to do. I don't go looking for you. I wasn't even at my computer. I was sleeping. I didn't know you had been give asst rights untill this morning. I even e-mailed tag and asked him and I have the message on outlook express to prove that. Spreading lies about me won't get you any where with me. I'll e-mail msn myself and see if they can go back and look to see if they can find who did. If I'm defensive its because I had no reason too do this and people think I did. I wasn't actively looking for you watchdog. If I was, I would have been posting here and on your site and every other site I could.

MatrixWatch
June 15th, 2003, 06:26 PM
Well.. I am willing to apologize to you for my accusations while we await an answer from MSN. I would really like to know how and why this happened. I believe that whatever the explanation, it happened to suit someone's purpose. This was no accident.

peterdragin
June 15th, 2003, 07:10 PM
Everyone wants to blame Watchdog for the matrix world crashing, if ya want to blame someone blame me. ( I don't care )
I am the one who is on a vendeta to kill all these sites. I am the one that everybody is complaining about. I have been stopping all these scammers on ebay.

Rember Ebay doesn't look for any auctions that are not allowed , they rely one ebay users to REPORT them. 17, 839 canceled so far!!!

Everyone of the matrix sites lie about how a matrix site works.
They ALWAYS use a 5 person Matrix as an example. They don't want anyone to realy what the chances are at winning a "Gift"

Use a 20 Person matrix as an example !!!! Let's use the truth about the Matrix and what the chances are.

Ezexpo has collapsed, if you are more than 50 on any list you will NEVER see any gift, the sheer numbers it would take for the 50th person on a list to get a gift is out of reach because of the number of sites in operation now..

The Matrix world is Crashing fast, and with a little help from me it's crashing faster than I thought it would.


Later Pete.

MatrixWatch
June 15th, 2003, 07:15 PM
Peter,
It seems the the "Ebay Crackdown" option on our poll has gained a substantial amount of the vote. Thanks for helping out with the "Ebay Watch Dogs" sectin of the site. I would appreciate more info on the subject, and if you could inform the eBay that they can post "shady" auctions here at matrixwatch.org I would appreciate it.

What you said about matrix sites crashing is the exact subject of our recently-released report. You can see where you are on a list and cross check it with this report to determine how many people a day must join to keep that matrix alive. This is a great report, and I would highly recommend it to those who are interested in what you brought up.

hello
June 16th, 2003, 01:31 AM
I do find it interesting that WatchDog was given full access to the forum and zap now everything is gone. I am not blaming WatchDog, only pointing out that it is odd timing.

MatrixWatch
June 16th, 2003, 12:33 PM
I think that hello's posts shows the thought process of some of the members over there at that forum. They see that someone they don't like happened to be an admin. when this tragedy happened. I started to argue back about the whole thing because I believe one of the other managers did it. Well, their response to all of this was to ban me from the forum. Either they felt threatened by the way I was trying to uncover a managerial motive, or they just wanted to look like a hero to the members. Whatever the reason, I am not allowed to post there anymore.

I noticed that the same people who cheer about my banishment, are the same ones who said this lawsuit is frivolous (and they always misspell that word), and it will never fly in court. They also said that the facts we talk about here on MatrixWatch.org are completely false. I think that the intelligent thing to do is to support that claim with reasons or evidence, but they never do it. I keep asking for the reasons, and they get upset. This is why they hated Matrix Watch... I kept asking their questions for them. Questions that they knew the answers to, but felt uncomfortable talking about. I guess that now with me gone they finally feel safe; safe from my letting them in on what they are involved with. I disagree with the decision to ban me from that forum. Safety is where you are not afraid to know.

MatrixWatch
June 16th, 2003, 04:43 PM
By the way Scott, happy (belated) birthday. (7/12). You are a colorful addition to the matrix world.

CurtXxX
June 16th, 2003, 11:39 PM
Watchdog,

Sorry to say but your spelling is wrong on the word "frivolous".

MaxPower
June 17th, 2003, 12:22 AM
Oh no! he spelled wrong. Be sure to tell Shelby to bring that up in court. That will guarantee his victory, Then Ezexpo will once again flourish and we will all get out products! Thanks oh ye of infinite knowledge!:rolleyes:

CurtXxX
June 17th, 2003, 02:53 AM
Hey meathead...

In case you didn't notice, Watchdog made a point of stating, in a previous post, that everyone was spelling that word wrong when he did it himself. I was merely correcting his mistaken correction.

Whether or not you have a problem with Shelby is really none of my business; however, when you start chirping at me it is. Don't post to me, at me, or even look at my user name - I don't wanna hear from you again you immature little punk. Talk to me when you grow up.