Gotmatrix's dirty new trick!?

[ycchen]

I wonder if this is a new dirty trick of "PAY FIRST b4 you can see the rank"? (see the post by sixg97 below) I wonder if newbies can email Greg or Sixg97 for temporary password before they pay like the 'good old days'? Probalby not...:(

So, now you know who are the customers that Greg are serving? Obviously, he is ONLY serving the customers IN the system by scaming the newbies who have NO idea what they are getting into until they 'complete a successful purchase'. For the $25 list, the number of helpers is around 4000!!!

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[mikv]

I've noticed they have strayed from the "just send greg an email and he'll give you a temporary password" to "just buy something and you'll get access" answers. The greed and the sense of urgency to collect more before it's all over is really building momentum over there. Greg hasn't been answering posts, it's been Sigx that answers and the only answer he gives is "just buy something". Greg needs to put an end to his "rabid dog he calls GotMatrix" before it bites anymore unsuspecting victims. It seems also that Matrix-Sites has turned into a "what to do after gotmatrix falls completely" forum as they are all trying scam and after scam in hopes to get rich. That forum is crawling with links and promotions for every scam out there.

[MatrixWatch]

And as the brideby and EzLaptop experiments proved, these get-rich-quick schemes just turn out to be a waste of money and effort.

[MatrixWatch]

Originally posted by ycchen
Obviously, he is ONLY serving the customers IN the system by scaming the newbies who have NO idea what they are getting into until they 'complete a successful purchase'.

I have been rather bothered by the slight of hand tricks that Greg employs to keep his matrix site moving, yet many customers see it as Greg's committment to them. But there is an even greater problem brewing.

You see, most risk-takers will keep far away from an existing matrix for two reasons:

1) The lists are extremely long

2) No one is signing up anymore


BUT, Greg has managed to keep an old matrix site running by coming up with some dirty tricks. To take care of problem #1 he doesn't allow people to view the lists without a passcode. Most people will not bother with a passcode so they just read through the forums at GotMatrix. The powers that be make sure that there are some exiting, "This is great", posts to con the newbies.

Then, in an effort to take care of problem #2, Greg allows people to sign up for a list withough paying. The only thing is that a "pending" notation will be put next to their name. When the customers become concerned about this then the powers that be can just sugar-coat the whole issue. Meanwhile, the pending name idea is employed whenever the group moral runs low. As the customers become concerned about never cycling, and the slow movements of the list, someone can just sign up a bunch of times and never send the payment. Heck, Greg can even remove the "pending" notation whenever he wants. Everyone knows that no one will ever cycle if they are not in the top 2 to 5 spots on the list.

I suspect that these ideas are being implemented to facilitate an exit plan that will leave the customers high and dry. I've seen it time and time again. One day it will be too late for the customers to do anything about it. If they really want to see their money, they would begin to seriously ask themselves some down-to-earth questions about the future of GotMatrix.

[mercinary]

Where the hell is the lawsuit against gotmatrix? Greg & Co. should be neck deep in litigation.....

He's probably not answering posts because he is making a getaway to Mexico.

-Merc

[ycchen]

The main reason why gotmatrix haven't get sued is because Greg did pay those cycled customers, even though the number is always below the REQUIRED ratio. For example, for a cycle of 6, the ratio of "cycled vs. waiting" should be 1:6. Unfortuantely, in almost all of his lists, the ratio is always short of the required ration. For example, Xbox list has a actualy ratio of 1:8 instead of 1:6 for a cycle of 6. Nevertheless, he did pay those who 'officially' cycled according to his 'own discounted formula'.

See, the anger usually comes from customers who cycled but do not get paid. They have more incentive to sue the owner. However, since Greg keep removing the MOST angry people out of the system, he can easily manipulate the rest of the helpers in the system.

Most customers still do not quite understand how pyramid-matrix scheme works. So, they are still hoping that miracle will happen and they will get their prize. They did not realize that at least 60-98% (depend on the list) at the bottom will never get anything unless the aliens are willing to signup to cycle out all the earth people.

Unless someone at the 100 or 3000 (on $25 list) begin to do the maths and give up the idea of "eventually", or else, Greg can continue to scam more newbies to feed a few oldies and himself.