Gotmatrix.com got more happy people

[nychotdog69]

check this happy new matrix user

monk




Joined: 26 Jun 2004
Posts: 3
Location: NY
Posted: Jul Thu 01, 2004 1:37 pm Post subject:

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ontheedge5000

you mean this is a Scam who are you?
and what do you mean by this
@monk
Straight-line matrixes, in the end, just like pyramid schemes, will NOT get everyone paid. It's mathematically impossible for every single person (owner included) to make money and for the lines to end.

on there website on there F.A.Q
they tell you this
5. How do I know I will receive my product?

We guarantee that when you cycle, we will contact you and find out if you want the product or cash equivalent. Then, we will send you which ever you prefer.

but if you say It's mathematically impossible for every single person to cycle
isn`t that illegal then it is a scam right!!!

and John how can you tell a friend to join something like this?
what type of friend are you?
dude i know you for 15 years now your name is almost at the top of this list
so you tell your friends to join this mathematically impossible matrix so you can get your free items, dude how low is that, by the way I`m sorry to call you a friend of mine any more. you only need about 650 more friends and you will get your XBOX right!!!!! DUDE you are
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[Dreamer]

miccheck




Joined: 03 Nov 2003
Posts: 40

Posted: Jul Thu 01, 2004 2:11 pm Post subject:

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Correct, see this is the reason why newbies need THE FULL TRUTH when they come here. This will probably get deleted, but everyone can clearly see the lengths that customers must go to in order to cycle here because nothing is being done otherwise.

[MatrixWatch]

Guys,
It would be helpful if you put a [ quote ] (without the spaces between brackets) before whatever you are about to quote, and then a [ / quote ] after it.


When done correctly it looks like this.


That way, we can see what is being quoted and what is said by you. Feel free to post a link also so that we can go to where you are quoting from.

Good information here, thanks for bringing it over. The problems with matrix sites are not very difficult to find, and I knew that it would only be a matter of time before the customers of GotMatrix began to see right through the lies on the FAQ pages.

[Dreamer]

Sorry about not putting it in quotes...I'm still learning. But, I'll do so for now on. But, both these postings was word for word with nothing added by either of us (except the first line where the other poster mentioned about the happy person).


http://www.gotmatrix.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1732&start=30

At the time of this posting, monk's posting is still up, but miccheck's is down. I wonder what kind of drugs sig is on, but he's probably always on drugs.

[mikv]

LOL....yeah I often wonder that myself ^^^.....miccheck seems to be on the "black list" cause his posts never seem to stay up that long. SigX or GregX97 as I like to call him, has been delete crazy lately, so much it's to the point where the threads aren't even making sense cause he deletes those who he doesn't agree with but all the reply's stay and the thread reads like a MadLib Page...LOL.

[geniew]

I've been looking around, mostly at Gotmatrix-when I could get on it and I'm wondering if I'm missing something..
The superfast cash matrixes say they only need 2 people to cycle. Say, put in $300 for a $500 return, or $600 for a $1,000 return. Well, if you know 2 or more people that are willing to participate with you, wouldn't that make you cycle constantly? If everyone purchased in (the e-books) then could they cycle, re-invest their $300 or $500 again, continually making a profit and re-investing?
Admittedly, it would have to end at some time, and the cycling would stop. But if enough profit had been made, you'd still come out ahead, even not getting the last cycle.
Is that legal? Is it even possible? Seems too good to be true.. I have friends/family that would be willing to do it..IF it were legitimate & possible. And if it was..why isn't everyone doing it?? Am I wrong in figuring how it works?
Geniew

[concerned]

It is simply a pyramid scheme. You don't need just 2 people, you need 2 people for every person that is in those lines. Some lines have hundreds and even thousands of people waiting to cycle. On top of that, from what I hear, even when you do cycle, the people are having a hard time getting paid. This is how it really works.

If you are the 1st person on the line, you need 2 more people to cycle you off.

Then there are 2 people on the line that need to cycle, and the last person needs 4 more people (2 to cycle the one in front of him, and 2 to cycle himself) this continues on down the line. The line continues to get larger. In the end, there will always be more people that get scammed than those that get cycled. If 150 people buy into the line, only 50 cycle, and 100 get scammed. If 1500 people buy in, 500 win, and 1000 lose. You see, as long as there is a winner, there are 2 losers.

Now, I just told you how it works, and you should be able to see for yourself that it is indeed a pyramid scheme. Now do you want to get your family and friends involved so that they can get scammed also?

[Dreamer]

Actually, its worse than a pyramid scheme. Here is my take.

You know those emails that you pay each person $1 on the list, and put your name on the bottom of it? Your success in that system is finding just 5 people. Ok, I know 5 people that will give me a buck a piece. If I do nothing more ever, at least I broke even. But, if each of those 5 people know 5 people, than I'll make money! But, if I give out the $5 and don't do anything, than I won't get any money.

If a matrix was run that way, I'd support it more. Its still illegial, but at least there is a possibily you'll get something.

Take a 2 person matrix, and say your 50 in line. You need to find 100 people to get in on this. Ok, maybe its doable. Find your real life friends that you don't mind them never talking to you. Sell a link, etc. Eventually you'll get the 100 people. But, the first 98 people you find you are doing the work for somebody else up on the list. But they'll thank you. Finally after the 98th person, all the hard you've done didn't help you a bit, but now it will pay off.

Imagine a site like GM where there are lists into the thousands I've heard. Even a 2 person cycle you'll have to get 2000 people to follow suit.

You might be thinking that you aren't the only person promoting the list. Well, think again. Owners usually don't do anything. The people at the very top of the lists that hope to cycle advertise on forums trying to get you to cycle them. Those in the middle...they probably gave up because they've been waiting around forever with no hopes of cycling. Only the people at the bottom end up promoting, because they think they might get something...eventually.

But, lets just say that you do ALOT of advertising. Your goal is to get 1 person a day to sign up. You sell on ebay, on auction sites, start up your own website, post flyers on campus, give flyers to people on the subway, whatever. You get your person a day (you ARE spending 40hours a week doing this). They go to the site, and they buy something. Lets say its GM, which hides the listings (why, because who would "invest" if they saw the lists?) and after they figure out the scam, they ask for a refund, or they just give up completely, waiting to punch you next time they see you. They won't advertise.

But, lets say it goes good. Your in the $600/$1000 line. The first person goes to the $15/$25 line. The next goes to the playstation line, the next goes to the toe-nail clippings line, etc.

How long are you going to take trying to get people to sign up? Wouldn't it just be easier to find a 5hr a week minimum wage job, and work there for 2 months to get that couple of hundred bucks?

[MatrixWatch]

Originally posted by geniew
Seems too good to be true..

And as the old addage goes, "...then it probably is."

A two-person cycle list is great for the first one or two people on the list, but the others are deadlocked in the matrix for years to come. Worst yet, the site will probably open another list before your name cycles. This will bring attention onto other shorter lists and you will be left hanging.

Getting the money back ASAP is the best option (if you've alread invested). Otherwise, you can stick around for a few years. However, matrix sites don't last that long. They either take off or are shut down within 1-2 years.

Matrix sites that were once in the position that GotMatrix is in now have long been gone. Remember EzExpo.com, eBanana.net, TYMglobal.com, or EmatrixUSA.com? The customers of these sites were holding on in hopes that with enough advertising and time the site would carry them through to the top of the list. It never happened. GotMatrix has not improved upon the business models that these aforementioned sites employed.

The owners of the matrix sites cannot hold up under the insurmountable pressure that they are under to please their customers. All it takes is one savvy customer to file a class-action lawsuit, or a small group to start complaining to the credit-card companies. The owners can only delay this for a season. The owner will eventually crack and get frustrated with the site and his/her customers. They give up, because they see it more clearly than anyone else that their site is destined to have recurring problems that are impossible to fix.

It seems that this is where Greg is at right now. He has exhausted his options. Shortening the lists didn't work; opening up new lines didn't work; finding new autocycle options ended in failure; and promotional endeavors have not met the expectations. The idea has failed and that is why he does not act with excitement upon new ideas suggested by his customers. He knows the ideas would not work.

GotMatrix.com is doomed, but fortunately many of the customers still have time to get their money back.