The Death of Gotmatrix

[ycchen]

As the last speculative list (super fast $500) drama on gotmatrix has finally come to a closure, there won't be any fun action on gotmatrix. After the current round of celebration of finally getting checks from greg, gotmatrix will be slowly headingn toward another cycle of crisis.

There are tons of gotmatrix advertisements on eBay right now, and more newbies will be suck into this desperate and dying scam. Greg will have probably 2 months of 'quiet' period before the next 'hide and seek' 'close down', 'greg missing' game begin again.

Without big sis and other speculators making noise on the forum (because they all get what they want and leave), greg will be happily scaming all the newbies and will not give a cent out any more.

It is a good time to dissappear. I perdict that Greg is making his last move to close shop and dissappear. Again, I am not Greg even though I can read his mind pretty well :D

In other words, from now until the dissappearance of gotmatrix, this is a 'donation' period. The money will only go into greg's pocket and nothing will go out!!!!

Here are the signs of death of gotmatrix in the next 2-3 months:

1. The frequency of gotmatrix breaking down increase.

2. complaints will continue to increase as newbies are mostly ignored for basic service (password, name on the lists...etc). Not much on people screaming about not getting pay because most people are not informed when they are cycled. There will be a lot of manipulation on the list (missing name, changing lists...etc), so no one will really know when they are cycle or not.

The recent complaints by 3-4 speculators on super fast $500 list is an exceptional case. Greg won't let that happen again because he needs to pay to shut them up. He doesn't like paying at this stage.

3. These lack of basic service kind of complaints will eventually force Sigx97 to quit his moderator job because he can't defend Greg any more. Unless he has certain deal with Greg to stay as loyalist, which is very possible. He might still hang on to the job but will not be as effective as before in deleting complaints.

4. After Sigx97 quit, gotmatrix's forum will become a ghost town, like the Ashu's. So, Greg will find an excurse to shut down the forum.

5. Customers will be thrown into the dark, and the new signups will drop drastically.

6. All complaints will go to matrix-sites.net and probably MW. I suggest that matrix-sites get ready to open a new forum for gotmatrix customers in the 2 months time...

7. However, Greg will not close down his site unless: a) lawsuit is filed against him. b) he has find a way to hide away from disgrunted customers who live in the same town.

8. With or without the closing of the website (just like ezexpo that continue to open for a while despite the lawsuit), we can announced the dealth of gotmatrix by that time, in 2-3 months, or before X'mas

advice to gotmatrix customers
1. for oldies who has invested for more than 6 months. you can either take it as a 'bad experience' and give up. Or, you can try to get refund or file lawsuit.

2. For newbies, it is probably the best time to get refund by all possible means before it is too late.

[ycchen]

My goodness, gotmatrix has gone down faster than I anticipated! Here are the check lists for a half dead, soon to declare dead matrix.

1) gotmatrix breaking down -- script problem, no update for months, no pay check, email outbox problem...

2) Complaints, complaints and more complaitns. Even matrixwatch.org link is posted on the forum :D

3) Where is Sigx97? Is our Robin running away with the Batman? I assume he is quiting his job as the super scam mod.

4) Gotmatrix IS a ghost town right now! Whether Greg will shut down the forum or not, we shall see....

See.. I got 3 1/2 prediction correct so far. I am NOT Greg, but geee... this scammer are so predictable... not fun.

Let me have the honor to declare gotmatrix latest status : HALF DEAD :D

Wait, I need to wait for a two weeks just to make sure that it won't come alive again. Robin and Batman might play their last 'hide and seek' game. It will defintiely be the last time. But trust me, they won't be able to scam a dime this time.

When you let your forum turn into a ghost town for more than 2 weeks, your credibility is basically OVER.

I will update the status of gotmatrix after two weeks. :D

[Dreamer]

I think your being overly optimistic there. Give it a couple more weeks of complaining. Greg will mail out another $500 check and post a few things on the board. Everybody will sign his praises, than a week after that...lets see...what will the new excuse be? Hackers changed the script to assembly language and modified it to make everything invisible, but its still there! Wait, we already did the scrip problems...but I like the hackers angle. Maybe terrorists? Maybe we can blame the CIA or KGB. I want some royalities if Greg uses some of these.

The sad thing, even if it dies a quick death, people there aren't going to learn. They'll just find a new site to donate their money on.

[concerned]

The hacker idea is an old one. Do a search on these forums and you will see that it is one of the most common excuses that a site closes down.

[mikv]

Has it already moved on to "matrixtopia"? Is anybody able to view GotMatrix? I haven't been able to access the site for a half hour so far. Can anybody else?

[ycchen]

I can't get on either. I checked the whois.com, and found the fellowing message for both websites owned by Greg Day -- gotmatrix.com and got-host.com Address: Maximum Daily connection limit reached. Lookup refused. In fact, it was the same message I got yesterday but I was able to access the two sites yesterday.

Just another old trick of fake problem. I think Greg must have checked this threat and misundertood it as our 'suggestion' on how to close a site painlessly. :D

[Dreamer]

If you need some help getting around the computer just give us a call at (***) and we'd be glad to come out to your home or place of business and assist you.


Is this this same Greg that owned Daytime Enterprises? If it is, I wonder how many homes he stole out of? I guess its easier to steal from people when they give you their money, instead of having to rifle thru some drawers somewhere.

[concerned]

Well, it is the same name, and that site is being hosted at got-host, so it is easy to put the two together.

[concerned]

Oh, I forget to reply to the other posts. Well, it seems that the hosting service suspended the page for some reason. That is yet another excuse that these scammers use. OH, I forgot that he owns the hosting service. I guess he didn't pay himself the hosting bill, so he just turned it off. Well, matrixagency and got-host are resolving just fine. I guess it is just another one of those strange script errors. I'm sure one of those really happy customers that he has will make up some good excuses for Greg.


Oh well, that was fun.

[mikv]

I noticed some interesting posts on GotMatrix's forum the past couple of days. It seems there is some sort of PM going around at matrix-sites.net that a few members of GotMatrix were getting. One post in particular had a "die-hard" complaining about not getting their check, and a response came from another die-hard telling them to check thier PM at matrix-sites. I didn't see any other posts after that regarding whether or not the person was paid or what not. I'm wondering if Greg is secretly trying to change servers or open up another site and is only telling certain people about it so he can be rid of the "negative members"
and keep his scheme going under a different name?
Kind of makes me wonder because I haven't seen any posts at matrix-sites today regarding GotMatrix being down, when before they were all over there wondering what happened. Might be way off with this but it seems fishy to me that nobody has mentioned it so far and the site has been down a couple of hours now.


Well someone has posted on matrix-sites in the past few minutes and even the MODERATOR aka Sigx97 doesn't seem to know what is going on.

[the informant]

anyone who got ripped off by greg day of gotmatrix.com can email me at voiceman13000@netscape.net and i can supply with contact info on him (address, phone number)

[concerned]

Who are you? Did you get scammed by him also? I am all for getting these people and bringing them to justice, but I have to warn our members against communicating with someone outside of these forums that is new. We have had people come here and solicit email addresses and also try to send people viruses by asking people to send them emails to private addresses like this before. Feel free to use the Private Message system here. It is for your safety, because these owners could be lurking around and trying to get as much information from you as possible. They have scammed before, and they will most likely want to scam again.

[the informant]

yes I did. I signed for 4 listings just a few days ago. I had no idea it was having so much problem. A person who had success with gotmatrix sold me the info on ebay.

[concerned]

Most likely, they were not even successful at gotmatrix, but rather they were hoping to find more people like you to scam in order to FINALLY become successful. That is what really happens in these pyramid schemes. How were you able to get his contact information? Did you use public means? If you would like, feel free to tell people how you found it. It could help them out. Please do not post it at this forum publically, because Greg is just the type of person that would make up some lame story about getting beat up because the information was posted here.

[wetdog]

I think Greg needs to get beat up.

[Agent|Star]

Originally posted by wetdog
I think Greg needs to get beat up.


lol

[Dreamer]

Here is how I found some info on him (maybe all you oldies know, but I'm still new here, so I'm learning everyday).

google "greg day" gotmatrix. There was a cached forum of people complaining about his site (www.ocforums.com). The link is dead, so I'm not posting it.

On the forum, somebody posted his old whois. Here is the info (minus the phone number and PO Box he used - probably a dud anyways, so don't want people to call an innocent person).

Gregory Day (itzgtd@yahoo.com)
Mount Orab, CA 45154
US

Of course, Mount Orab is in Ohio, not CA. And, according to his yahoo profile from almost 2 years ago, he is in cincinitti.

Now, using this old information, use a reversephone lookup and you get the number belonging to a Joyce Day in Mount Orab, OH 45154. It looks like a match to me, but I'm not sure.

Oh, and mods, if I broke the rule of posting information, delete it and let me know. I only posted stuff that I searched for online, and Im still not 100% sure, so I left out the important details.

[Dreamer]

Well, it is the same name, and that site is being hosted at got-host, so it is easy to put the two together.


Nevermind. I tried going to the site earlier, but it was down, so I saw the cached page. The cached page was greg wanting to go to your house, rummage thru your belongings while he teaches you how to turn on a monitor.

I guess Jeff and Greg didn't scam enough people, so Mike is now stuck doing gutter repair. Maybe he can find greg, nobody else can.

[wetdog]

Here is another way to find this scammer Greg --->

the link below you have to pay like $25.00

but they give you an entire background check on all Greg Days the have recided in OH.





CHECK ON GREG DAYS BACKGROUND HERE (https://www.peopledata.com/search/yahoo_bgc.php?firstname=Gregory&lastname=Day&streetaddress=2100+Link+Side+Dr&city=Cincinnati&state=OH)

[FightingBack]

I'm suprises WatchDog hasn't posted some huge story on the home page about GotMatrix's being closed.

It's been down for two days and everyone over at Matrix-Sites is thinking that it's gone too, and for good.

Wonder if there will be any lawsuits against GotMatrix. I can't wait to see how this will turn out.

[Dreamer]

I'm suprises WatchDog hasn't posted some huge story on the home page about GotMatrix's being closed.


Im sure everybody here will be excited to hear its closed, but, well, lets face it...its probably just another gimic before the official closing. Although the script died about a month ago, the site crahed, and there have been a few people who bought into the lines and their names never showed up, so maybe he was just waiting for a few more sales scams.

I'd like to believe its finally the end. But, I don't think so. He can stay down for a couple days and come back and be a hero to everybody on the board. I think the only thing that will stop that scammer is if the law finally caught up to him. Lets hope thats the case.

Does greg check the email at got-host? Somebody should email him there (don't mention the matrix) and see if you can get him to respond that way.

[Dreamer]

Is it me, or are people still voting for GM on M-S? Talk about loyalists. Greg can do no harm, so while the site looks deleted, we'll still support him. I'm sure there is a reason why he hasn't shown his face on any forums...I'm guessing he's still being probed by space aliens...or maybe Bubba in jail.

[ycchen]

Greg has played this ugly trick too many times. I agree with Dreamer, we need to wait for two weeks before we can annouced its death.

The only different between a dead and working gotmatrix is that a dead matrix won't be able to scam more newbies! Trust me, he will not pay anyone after he made a 'wrong' decision to pay the last two most outspoken customers on the superfast $500 list (and also Sigx97 of course). I think when he sent out the two checks, he probably thinks that he can use the same trick to keep his door open for 2 more months to receive few more donation before he dissappear. I think some how he miscalculate that move, and close down 1 week after the checks were received. I hope that these 2 checks are a valid one :D

Frankly speaking, there is not much to celebrate since there are probably 80-90% customers still stuck in the gotmatrix's pyramid. They still need to work together to get their money back!!

I am just curious how fast the Robin (sigx97) has changed his attitude. He is now trying to distance himself from his master -- the batman :D I hope some of us keep some of the dialogues we have with Sigx97 in the past. Let's compile them into a document and send it to him or post it on our website :D

Poor sigx97, betrayed and dumped as THE super promoter and loyalist of Greg. What did he got? Probably a garantee payout by Greg when he cycle. Well, still better than most cycled customers who were completedly ignored! :mad:!

[ycchen]

Originally posted by the informant
yes I did. I signed for 4 listings just a few days ago. I had no idea it was having so much problem. A person who had success with gotmatrix sold me the info on ebay.

Welcome to the forum, informant. Keep us posted if you have manage to get a hold on Greg, or somehow manage to get a partial refund. There are TOO many vicitims like yourself who were scammed, usually by the customers who really thought it would work. I don't blame them at all, this is EXACTLY how pyramid works. Deceive deceive and deceive! Only a few speculators who know the pyramid VERY WELL, and trying to exploit it to their own advantage. Look at what is happening on realdealmatrix and cheetahmatrix. Therefore, excluding a handful of speculators and insiders, 99% of the customers are vicitm of the whole pyramid-matrix scam! :mad:

Many newbie like yourself buy a link from the eBay, get excited about the site and pay. Some of them actually begin to promote their own list right away, hoping to cycle faster. They did not study this pyramid scheme careful enough so their effort of promoting the site will have ZERO effect on themselves since they are at the bottom of the pyramid.

If we have enough victims willing to work together, we can probably set up a seperate sub-forum to discuss "how to get a refund from Greg".

Sorry about your lost, and good luck!

[mikv]

Well the search is on for Greg of GotMatrix. Reading through the Matrix-Sites forum I see that "Big Sis" aka Chrystinn1224 is married to a police officer and they are hot on the trail of the now infamous Greg. They have traced his IP and come up with an address that she says leads to someone that is not Greg. There are 9 Greg's in the area and they are looking into all of them. It appears that all the information that you get when you do a "whois" search on Greg is false. Right down to the business address. Soooo we'll see how this story unfolds in the days to come. It seems all the die hards (Even SigX97) are conceding that Greg has run off with their money and they are now talking about legal action. So we'll see if Greg doesn't show up all of a sudden with another BS story about a script error.

[ycchen]

I know this sound a little bit silly since the 'informal' investigation of gotmatrix has already began. Nevertheless, just let me have the honor to do this for the last time. :D

"Gotmatrix is DEAD!"

There is NO WAY that it will come back again because it has passed the threshold of no return. One of the obvious indicator is that the biggest promoter of gotmatrix (among others)-- Sigx97 -- has abondant the ship.

Let's move to the next page of the story of gotmatrix -- the gotmatrix investigation.

[concerned]

Originally posted by mikv
Reading through the Matrix-Sites forum I see that "Big Sis" aka Chrystinn1224 is married to a police officer and they are hot on the trail of the now infamous Greg.

Well, I hope those people aren't putting too much faith in that "police officer" that she is married to. After all, he wasn't a good enough police officer to tell his wife that she was participating in a pyramid scheme. I guess he really doesn't know the laws well enough to protect his own family. Why should anyone trust his judgement in this case?

[christyn1224]

Well, Concerned, I was going to ask the Matrixwatch community to help me a little bit with this case, but after that comment about my husband, I think I can do it all on my own.... I think it is a little ridiculous of you to make statements like that about people that you don't even know. That's what I don't like about this site and why I have never participated in using this forum before. I guess you can just forget about being able to pat yourself on the back for helping out with this one... I won't post again.

[wetdog]

christyn1224 i think what you are doing is good - find that aka greg do we all can NAIL HIS ***.

[the informant]

Christyn1224,

I for one appreciate the help from anyone who is willing to go out their way to help in this matter. i hope you read this and are willing to still post your results of your investigation of gotmatrix, no matter what comments others want to make.

[mikv]

Well it seems Christynn might have found Greg. She posted at matrix-sites a current address and telephone number. Not completely sure but it seems pretty accurate. I'm not sure if the Admin at MS will leave the information up for all to see being it is personal info, but if it goes down I have saved the information and if anyone (customers of gotmatrix) would like it they can PM.

[Dreamer]

Christy,

Out of everybody that participates in these sites, you seem to be the only one with your head screwed on tight. i don't think your trying to scam people. You seem like a nice wonderful person. Don't take this anyway, but I can bash alot of "players" but your one of the few people none of us can bash.

I hate to agree with concerned...but he has a very valid point. After thi is said and done, and hopefully you give up on matrix sites, what would you do if a friend or family came to you with this great matrix site? And thats not even knowing the law but knowing how poor the sites are.

I'm not going to bash your hubby, though. I used to know this one "cop" who didn't know half the laws. He could regergatite all the trafic laws, code, and everything like that he used on a daily basis, but he was as crooked as they come.

But, either he doesnt' know what a ponzi scheme is, or he doesnt' know how to recognize it, or he knows both and doesn't mind his wife falling victim to it.

[ycchen]

Welcome big sis! I think you and your other half are doing a great job! It's a great service to the matrix community. I think 'gotmtarix investigation' might be the case that bring pro & anti matrix people together :)

Greg has let so many people down, and all his customers who have trusted him need to come together. The closing down of the website is just a wake-up call for the last bunch of supporters who trusted him. He obviously betrayed every one!

Let's put our differences behind us and work together. I am more eager to get the scammer to justice, than celebrating the death of gotmatrix. There is nothing to celebrate about if we cannot find Greg and get the money back! :mad:

[concerned]

My post is just my opinion, and was completely intended to get a reaction. I am still apprehensive about your motives though, which is why I did that in the first place. I applaud your efforts with trying to find this scammer. Most other people in your situation would just accept it and move on. That is how people like Greg live. They hope that you will accept the loss, and let him have your money.

Now, this is where my interest in your cause is different. My questions are as follows:

Who's side are you really on?

Do you plan to go after Greg for your money, but continue to participate in other pyramid scheming matrix sites?

Are you through with matrix scams, or will you continue make an effort to scam others?

What is your husband's view on the matrix sites? Does he participate as well? Does he think they are illegal? The people who live in your area pay taxes for upstanding citizens to protect them, and they might be quite interested to know that their own police officers have family that scams others.

Now, I will be the first to admit that I am very abrasive, but there is a legitimate reason for it. I am sick and tired of warning people like you about these scams. After I give you my warnings, and spend my time trying to protect you, all I get most of the time is "get a life" or "go away" or "mind your own business" and you for one have been one of those people that have done this in the past when I was warning you about Gotmatrix in the first place. Now, that I have been proven right yet again, you are asking for us to help you.

Why should we?

After you trashed the work that we do here in the interest of all the people like yourself that get scammed, and after you have trashed us, when you were trying to make a profit from these scams, now you want our help because you finally realize that we were right the whole time.

My stance has always been to not waste time on cases like this if you are only intending to continue to scam others through other sites. If nobody likes that, then that is just fine with me. If the admin of this site does not agree with that, then that is just tough. We volunteer and work very hard to have you come here and ask help for one case, just so that you can scam others. I am only trying to protecting the people here once again in the long run. If you plan on continuing to scam others through other sites, then we wouldn't want you here for the Gotmatrix case, because in the long run, you will just create more work for us by having to work on every single case that you have contributed in scamming others.

Now that I have gotten that all off my mind, I will try to lighten up a bit. For starters, if you can assure us that you have changed, and realized that you were actually participating in a pyramid scheme, then I will lighten up on you quite a bit. Your effort is good, but I am only protecting the people that are already here and have realized the error, and I am also more importantly protecting the newbies that have not been informed about these scams, and have the potential to be scammed in the future.

[Dreamer]

I think 'gotmtarix investigation' might be the case that bring pro & anti matrix people together


Nope. One post and I'm banned from the forums. So, I guess if we want to help we have to help here, so some member can bring it there, etc. Boy oh boy. I really want to help now.

[Dreamer]

Christy,

This is going to be the last time I waste my time with this garbage. I can care less. But, what you need to do is start a file.

What addresses did people pay GM? What name did they send it to? what stormpay account (or whatever he used) did you send money to? What paypal, and any other way peole have sent him money.

What other sites does he own that can be verified?

What sites is he suspected of owning/operating.

What email addresses did people email him at? What was his AIM that he used, or his MSN, or anything else.

If you start a file with all this information, take it step by step. See if you can verify the information on the suspected list and see what other clues you can find.

But for now, I honestly could care less.

[ycchen]

I understand where concerned is coming from. :) I have tried to debate over matrix-sites.net and was trashed in 2 days. I gave up entirely on pro-matrix forum and hide myself in this 'save harbour'. :D I think concerned is a few brave soul who continue his direct confrontation with the pro-matrix people. That is why I understand his frustration and standpoint. :) I think that is a crucial approach to reach newbies who might be mislead to donate their money especially through the pro-matrix forum.

Btw, I agree with concerned that big time speculators need to stop playing the game, because your action have serious consequences. While you might successful 'attack' a list or a site, you left a bunch of other customers stuck in the matrix! You move on while other continue to pay the price. In that way, even if you think you are merely 'playing a game' , you are actually helping the con artists scamming the misinformed newbies. Everyone loses, except the owners. So, I echo concerned on this point that big time speculators like big sis needs to stop playing the game. It's fun, but it will only create more victims as the result. So, no fun eventually :)

Since I have less direct conflict with pro-matrix people, I can be more relax about the whole situation. This is where I am coming from. :)

Let's take one issue at the time. Let work together on gotmatrix case first before it is too late. I still strongly suggest the "file fraud report to local police station" approach. Someone need to get this start, so with the an open case file, others can easily file their own reports.

[Dreamer]

Greg posted:

We were forced to make a sudden change of our servers and due to that we could not post a warning that the site would be temporarily down during migration to the new server.


I bet that took some time to come up with that lie. Who forced you? You had no way to go to M-S to tell people there? How sudden was it exactly? Couldn't you tell your partner in crime, the boy wonder, that your having server problems and will be back in 3 days? How hard is it to leave an offline message? Hell. Ever hear of Kinkos if you want me to believe you had no internet access during that week.


Today, Tuesday July 27, everything is back to normal and 100% operational


Normal being that your continuing to scam people? 100% operational? What about all the people that paid into the lines and weren't added. The site hasn't been 100% operational in months.


If you find an issue with the site that needs resolved please contact me.


What good will that do? People have been trying to contact you for months. You blame email. Than people say they contacted you a dozen times and you don't respond...so your response is that you responded to everybody. Ok.


Also if you are owed from cycling a matrix, not on a list after a successful purchase, or have any other questions/concerns please contact me directly at Greg@gotmatrix.com so the issue can be handled appropriately.


Why should I believe you? YOu haven't been updating your site in over a month. Why is it the customers job to contact you. Do the work yourself. Its your site, figure it out yourself.


We have had numerous problems the last month ranging from emails, servers, scripts, etc


Now a server issue. I guess now is a good time to start figuring out more escuses.


We have been in business for 17 months now and we are here to stay


I finally believe something you say! 1. You cannot afford to close down. You owe too many people money. The lists are dead and so long as you have your boy wonder to continue your lies to get more people into paying you more money, why should you close?

But, I also believe you because I think you realize people have been closer to finding you. That you can't hide. People know your pay processor. People have your business checks to find you. Would you care to address people's findings that possibly everything you posted about yourself is a lie. Is your name really Greg?


I appologize for the issues that have happened and hope to make amends and restore your faiith in this business.


1. Pay everybody who has cycled.
2. Offer a full, unconditional refund to everybody who asks for one.
3. Stop the censorship on your boards and stop lying to people.
4. You are a business, right? Post your real name, reall address and your real phone number on your site so people can contact you. Alot of businesses actually do have a way for people to contact them believe it or not.

I think thats the only way to make ammends. Anything short will still ring a bell of you wanting to scam more people.

[ycchen]

Originally posted by Dreamer
I finally believe something you say! 1. You cannot afford to close down. You owe too many people money. The lists are dead and so long as you have your boy wonder to continue your lies to get more people into paying you more money, why should you close?

But, I also believe you because I think you realize people have been closer to finding you. That you can't hide. People know your pay processor. People have your business checks to find you. Would you care to address people's findings that possibly everything you posted about yourself is a lie. Is your name really Greg?
Exactly, this is greg's new 'buy time' strategy. He needs to figure out a way OUT of the scam before the investigation gets to him. I have a feeling that he was scared by all the informal investigation, and probably someone has already got to him. Too bad, his strategy works! Now, the whole investigation is on hold, and he is back as a "druglord" again.

Trust me, he will do MINIMUM to keep gotmatrix floating, just to buy time to prepare this ultimate "exit" plan. Next time, when gotmatrix was 'forced' (lol) to dissappear from the earth surface, I am sure you won't find him any more. I am sure a few checks 'might' be sent out to the most noisy and threatening clients as usual.

He knows who these threatening clients are since he is minotoring the whole situation when he DELIBERATELY close down this website for 72 hours. He is just testing the water and see if he can get away that easily. He can't, so he is FORCED to come back, and buy himself sometime, and buy out a few threatening clients if possible. So, if you are clients, it is good time to act wisely :) For newbies, I strongly suggest you get a REFUND now, than asking to put your name on the list. Why? the reason is simple. If I were Greg, I will just put your name on the list and then what? You will NEVER cycle. If that is what you want, you will get it, and the end of the story. Gotmatrix is a pyramid SCAM!! You don't have to play the rule of a SCAM! You need to help yourself before it is too late!

The bottomline is, newbies should not donate their money to Greg and diehard supporter (sigx97) who has no backbone and no principle. Instead of fighting for the money for everyone, these very few diehard only concern about scamming more newbies to cycle themselves OUT of the matrix.

They know the injustice of the pyramid scheme, but they don't care since they are the priviledge early birds who have invested dearly a year ago, and want to capitalize on this scam. They are more an addict than someone you can trust! :( They are greedy and want cycled money than a refund because they thought they deserve it since the early birds before them get their share of scammed money, so they want their share as well. They know it is a scam, but they just want YOUR money in THEIR pocket because that is what their druglord promise them. "If you promote and support our scam, when you cycled, you will get your shared of scammed money" -- Greg the 'druglord' of matrix.

They never once take a stand from a newbies' position to think 'why should a newbie donate money to me and my druglord'? They don't care. In contrast, they will standby their druglord and tell the newbies: there is risk for every 'business', so you just need to take the risk. RISK? Donating money is risk-free, okay! :mad: Risk is about something 'unknown' that can go both ways. If I tell you that you are donating money to EVERY LISTS on gotmatrix NOW, this is NOT about RISK, and don't buy into all this euphamized words to justify the scam! :mad:

[Dreamer]

Never mind. I'm wrong.

[Dreamer]

Greg seems to be offering refunds and paying cyclers. Maybe its just buying him some time, but I'd suggest any GM members here, now would be a perfect time to ask for a refund. If you need an excuse, say your pet goldfish died, and you need the money for a funeral.

If you still think you are going to cycle, here are 2 interesting posts. I wonder if the boy wonder will delete his masters post.

http://www.gotmatrix.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1801



Are there problems with the automating of the product lines? Are all of them up-to-date, or are we waiting for that to be fixed too?

Because I've seen zero movement in some of them, which is approaching 2 months -- big ones, like the $25 -- which is beginning to be hard to swallow.

Greg
Site Admin

There hasn't been an order.


In 2 months there hasn't been an order. The boy wonder better delete this thread so newbies won't know the last time an order was made on these lines.

[ycchen]

Hmm..... interesting. I have a feeling that Greg is trying to play different kind of trick, a cheap one :D We shall see.

Let us patiently see how this con-artist lies his way out of the scam. Trust me, anyone who has deal with him know that he is a very good liar.

Yes, it is a time to ask for refund, AND file lawsuit before greg dissappear again.

By the way, for those who might not following our forum close enough "wonder boy" or "robin" or "god's angel" or "druglord's hitman" are titles for a very honest person with integrity -- Sigx97. He is the extremely diehard promoter and investor of gotmatrix who is Greg most trusted hit man on every forum.

Sigx97 is the major player in the scam that is ESSENTIAL for the survival of gotmatrix. If you hire Sigx97 to moderate your forum, you will be as successful as Greg! Greg, if you are reading this thread, remember to give sigx97 50% stock option! He deserve it! :D

ADD: the post was gone because of some script problem again, I bet!

[sisco50]

I see that Gotmatrix Domain is up for sale now. The saite does not look at all like the old matrix site it once was.

Looks like another matrix site owner has gotten away with all that scammed money.

[usey]

I am going to nail this guy down- Greg, u cannot run away.