supereasystuff

[nirvana]

supereasystuff claims to be a non matrix site and even refers to this site to rpove its not a matrix. for about four months i have been invovled with this site, reffered 6 people which is how i am meant to earn credits to score prize at the end of the road, i have not been credited for any of my refferals. ii have tried conatcting them several times to noi avail, and recently their site seems to have downgraded , the forum is not working and their design has just aboiut gone down the drain, i cannot get onto these people and i mean what the hell am i meant to do, have i been scammed? :mad:

[jokach]

Hi nirvana

Supereasystuff is a member of this website as he has posted before, so I hope that they will come aboard and address your concerns. You can also try to drop them a PM on this board to see if they get notified. here is a thread they responded to recently:

http://www.matrixwatch.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1547

jokach

[mercinary]

The owner of supereasystuff actually has a membership here:

http://www.matrixwatch.org/forums/member.php?userid=579

Maybe you could get into contact with him.


As for if this is a matrix scam or not, I don't know if this falls into that. Maybe someone else could help me out. It looks to me to be a fairly bogus referral program. I hardly doubt that everyone who buys the "software packages" on that site are going to get their "free prize". Then again, I don't have any experience with this site....

-Merc

[mercinary]

Here are some other threads here dealing with supereasystuff:



http://www.matrixwatch.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1547

http://www.matrixwatch.org/forums/showthread.php?t=995

[FightingBack]

SuperEasyStuff is a scam. It's a referral based program. You don't refer, you don't get your prize. It's what we call a pyramid scheme. I too was part of the site, however I didn't pay but still got an account. How does that work? lol I really don't know. I just logged in one day and I had a free laptop referral link. However, I never referred anyone else to this scam.

SuperEasyStuff is a scam. Stay away!

[MatrixWatch]

Why would they refer people here to prove that they are not a matrix site? Didn't they confess to running a matrix once?

Strange.


The general consensus here is that we tend to be cautious toward get-rich-quick sites that depend upon future investors to move your own name up a list.

[nirvana]

i dont know what to think, i mean why isnt the forum up and yeh why dont they answer their emails, or why dont they award you these soo called credits even if you refer people wtf??

[concerned]

Once they get your money, it is over. After you have already given them your money they don't need to answer their email, because they already got what they want. Once they have your money, they move on to the next victim. If you have a differnet email address, do this for fun. Send an email asking how you can make a payment. Ask something that will be tempting to them, like ask them is you can send more money than they ask for in order to get better treatment. Ask them if you can buy credits or something. I bet they answer your email extremely fast.

[nirvana]

well they havent still responded am i not entitled to a refund/.

[mercinary]

If you are really serious about getting your money back, you can persue it via your payment processor (i.e. paypal). If/when that fails, you can move onto your credit card company. If/when that fails, you can choose to contact the authorities (local, state, and federal).

-Merc

[concerned]

well they havent still responded am i not entitled to a refund/.

The problem with scams, is that no matter what you are entitled to, they will most likely deny everything. After all, why should they worry, they already have your money. Their work is already done.

[theGuru]

Getting a reply from Richard Monks, the name I was given by him, is absolutely impossible. I have also been a member of supereasystuff for about a year and was a moderator on the forums. I have repeatedly tried emailing throught multiple email addresses and have not gotten any response. Ses started out as a legitimate place where the gifts or cash were actually sent out. Communication used to be easy but ever since the forum has closed down there is absolutely no means of communication. I have even created a disguised ebay account and sent him questions about his auctions, to see if I would get answers but still nothing. Now the ebay account that the supereasystuff owner had been using for years is no longer a registered user. Also I have also found the referral system has been disconnested so he can collect payments and not have any liability to pay anyone a cent.

[FightingBack]

Well with the way the site looks now, I can't imagine to many people signing up. It looks run down with no details and it looks like crap.

[ycchen]

May be keeping a matrix ghost town only is a strategy to avoid lawsuit. Just like gotmatrix which is too big to close down. If greg close down his gotmatrix online, everyone, even his loyalists will hunt him down.

[FightingBack]

This site is back up and the forums are running again! I'm trying to warn the customers over there about this scam and I've linked them to this site to help them read more about the site!

[SuperEasyStuff]

Hello,

If you've seen the news, another party was managing the site for me. Turns out that they've done a poor job, and I've come back to take control of the site. I'm very sorry for what has been happening the last few months. Gavin (TheGuru), I'd love to have you back on the site. What you saw the last few months of SES wasn't me. The Forums are back and my first order of business is to send out commissions, gifts not yet send, and get the business back into gear.

Thanks,
SES

[FightingBack]

It doesn't matter who was operating the site for you these past few months. Everything is still registered under you so you were still responsible for the site.

And on another note, your site is still against the law by running it as a pyramid scheme. I would close the site down now before you get into serious trouble. I will be reporting your site along with many other matrix/pyramid sites.

WatchDog, when you read this post, can you tell me who would be the appropriate people to contact to turn this site in. I'm sick of these scammer sites and am going to go thru the list of matrix/pyramid sites that have been listed on the forum and report them.

[SuperEasyStuff]

Our site is a software sales site with an affiliate program. Why do you think members can choose to receive comission per sale?

Also, during the time I wasn't available, commission was still being sent out and gifts were still being sent. The main issues were with support about answering program questions and a recent gift issue that I have taken care of.

I'll brb, as I have some work to do.

Thanks,
SES

[MatrixWatch]

Wait a second.. SES, you said that if we have "seen the news" we would know that someone else has been managing the site. What is this "news" that you are referring to. Please give us a link. And I hope that you don't forward us to your site, where you could have just placed this information in the last day or so.

Let me get this straight. You gave the site over to someone else to manage, and then when someone posts here on our message boards you all of a sudden are re-managing the site? And now you are soliciting people on our boards to return to your site?

How do we know that your whole management-switch story is not just a cover for your reputation?

Fightingback, you can send off a complaint to the IFCC and other authorities. If it is the case that SES is running something illegal, then they will most likely act accordingly. You can access more info on this page (http://www.matrixwatch.org/modules.php?s=&name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=4).

I haven't viewed SES' site for some time now, so I am not as up-to-date as some of our other members. Perhaps they can help with more of the specifics.

[MatrixWatch]

SES,
I just checked out your site, and a few posts on your forums. It seems to me that your claim to be legit on account of the referral program is a crock.

Here is how your site works:

1. Customer buys "ebooks" in order to get into a program which awards an XboX.

2. Customer gets a referral program ID# where he can manage his referrals. He needs about 50+ referrals to get his XboX.

3. The customer distributes that link to people, and when they buy in to the SES program the customer gets a referral point.

4. The customer is INFORMED BY YOU that he can sell his link (even on eBay), but that the price of the link can never exceed $15.


So, you are basically running a pyramid scheme. Matrix sites ran off a straight-line program so that they would not fall victim to laws against pyramid scams. That is why they ditched the referral system. YOU, however, are in a bad situation because in an effort to get rid of your matrix system you fell back on a pyramid scam.

What were you thinking?

Now you are claiming that your program is legitimate, and you are even trying to revamp your sales by placing the problems on the head of an imaginary "manager" who messed things up for THREE months before you stepped in.

[SuperEasyStuff]

The news is in our forum and was sent in an email to members about the forums being back, thus they should be able to read it.

A pyramid scheme is something similar to freeipods.com, which doesn't send a member commission per referral.

Currently, we send members commission per sale from their affiliate link.

[MatrixWatch]

No, you are incorrect.

FreeiPods.com has customers refer other customers to sign up for online services such as ifriends, AOL, etc. If someone signs up thorugh a referral link then the person who referred them gets a credit, and the FreeiPods site gets a referral commission.

The website gives a person an iPod after they gather between 5 and 10 referrals, and the site uses the referral commission funds to pay for it.

YOU, on the other had have your customers buying ebooks, and then having them sign up nearly 50 other people to get their XboX, or other electronics.. It is a pure pyramid scheme.

It is funny though, as I consider our past with you. We called you out when you were running a matrix site, but you denied it and said that it was not exactly a matrix scam. Shortly thereafter you changed your program. Now, we are saying that your new program is a pyramid scam, but you are denying it.

What's next? You start stealing people's identities from their sign-up info and tell us that it isn't exactly identity theft...

*sigh*

[SuperEasyStuff]

No, you are incorrect.

FreeiPods.com has customers refer other customers to sign up for online services such as ifriends, AOL, etc. If someone signs up thorugh a referral link then the person who referred them gets a credit, and the FreeiPods site gets a referral commission.

The website gives a person an iPod after they gather between 5 and 10 referrals, and the site uses the referral commission funds to pay for it.

YOU, on the other had have your customers buying ebooks, and then having them sign up nearly 50 other people to get their XboX, or other electronics.. It is a pure pyramid scheme.

It is funny though, as I consider our past with you. We called you out when you were running a matrix site, but you denied it and said that it was not exactly a matrix scam. Shortly thereafter you changed your program. Now, we are saying that your new program is a pyramid scam, but you are denying it.

What's next? You start stealing people's identities from their sign-up info and tell us that it isn't exactly identity theft...

*sigh*

Did you even read the part about us sending members commission per sale they make?

Last year we ran the same affiliate program. Maybe we had different wording that made it sound like a matrix site to you, which it wasn't.

[concerned]

I remember when SES sent Watchdog a virus. Does anyone else remember this?

[MatrixWatch]

I remember it.

[SuperEasyStuff]

I remember when SES sent Watchdog a virus. Does anyone else remember this?

That was because our address book was infected and the message was automatically sent from our servers. I'm sorry it happened. :(

Thanks,
SES

[concerned]

That was because our address book was infected and the message was automatically sent from our servers. I'm sorry it happened. :(

Thanks,
SES

I sure am glad you decided to respond to this. Let's see exactly what happened here.

First of all, you post this in your forums on Nov. 14th.

Super Easy Stuff was under the hands of different management for the last 3-5 months. During this time, they decided to close the Forums. I am now back and ready to manage the Forum.

Notice in bold that you don't even know exactly how long the other person was running the place. But that doesn't seem to be needed for my argument.

According to your site's forum, it looks like it went down on July 30th since that is the last day there were posts on your site. Like you said, the person that was running your site took the forum down, so it is safe to say that they had control on July 30th.

Now, for the reason I quoted you above about the virus. Let's look at the thread where Watchdog mentions that SES sent him a virus.

http://www.matrixwatch.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1410

Notice that your last post on that thread is dated August 21st. So why are you responding to something about the SES website at least 21 days after you stopped running the place? Shouldn't the "NEW" manager have been the one to reply to Watchdog instead of you? Also, how would you have even known what the problem was, if you were no longer running the place? I know why; because you never turned the place over to anyone else. It is plain and simple. You lied to this forum. Gee, is anyone surprised? I don't think too many of us have seen a pyramid/matrix scheme owner lie before. What could it be? :confused: :confused: :confused:

[FightingBack]

Once again, SuperEasyStuff has been trapped in the corner. Let's face it, SuperEasyStuff is a total scam and their going to continue to lie to try and protect themselves. SES, you should give up and close down your site. It's the best thing to do at a time like this. Especially when you're running an illegal site.

[SuperEasyStuff]

During all that time I still managed the business aspects, such as sending out commission, items, and transferring credits for members. Yes, it was me who replied to that post on MW, since during the year I have visited this site on and off, and if anything was mentioned about SES, of course I'd reply to it.

[concerned]

Hello,

If you've seen the news, another party was managing the site for me. Turns out that they've done a poor job, and I've come back to take control of the site.

So here you state that someone else ran the website.

During all that time I still managed the business aspects, such as sending out commission, items, and transferring credits for members. Yes, it was me who replied to that post on MW, since during the year I have visited this site on and off, and if anything was mentioned about SES, of course I'd reply to it.

Here you say you did all the business parts of it. Of course you just admitted to replying to something specifically about how the WEBSITE was managed, and you also said that you didn't manage the site at that time anymore. So how is it that you knew the answer about the website and webserver having a virus, when you didn't manage the website anymore?

Also, I am curious, how did you do all this other stuff? I mean, if you had nothing to do with the site, then how did you know who to send a gift to? How did you know which credits to transfer? Did the person running the website just tell you who to send gifts to, and you just believed them? Seems quite interesting, since you claim he did a lousy job.

Your logic makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Quit making up lame excuses. The fact is that you are running a scam, and you don't have the guts to defend your own actions, so you blame INVISIBLE MANAGER MAN. I guess after you are found out, you will be the next person to claim that it was all the fault of the MYSTERIOUS MATRIX HACKER GROUP that keeps hacking all the sites that have folded. I bet some day we will even see the MATRIX VIRUS that attaches itself to every server in the world, and breaks the server when the site says "straight line matrix" but only after the owner collects $100k. Can you come up with any other excuses that I haven't thought of yet, because that is the only way for you to survive your scam, isn't it?

[SuperEasyStuff]

That party managed the site for me, but not:
such as sending out commission, items, and transferring credits for members

Of course I'd want to have control of the financial aspects as mentioned above.

This topic will probably be argued forever by both sides. I don't get the point of arguing the same thing over and over again. I stand by my argument and you stand by yours.

[concerned]

All I asked was how did it work according to your version. If you didn't manage the site, then how did you know who to pay? That was the question.

The other question was this.

If you didn't manage the website, then how could you answer a thread about the management of the website and the virus that infected it? You shouldn't have known the answer if you didn't manage it. That is what I am getting at. How did you know details, if you didn't have your hands on it? Answer to that should be easy for everyone to see. You managed it the whole time, and just took this opportunity to blame INVISIBLE MAN to save what's left of your rotten reputation.

[SuperEasyStuff]

90% of managing the site is support. Thus, managing the site would mean support.

Of course I had my hands on the site, just not the support. I didn't do support, but I did everything else. Since I didn't do support, I most likely would not have gotten your emails or anyone elses, if you sent any.

Matrixwatch.org creates reputations lol?

I'm tired of arguing this one point over and over again. I'm going to do something productive now, like answer emails, rather than listen to you {EDITED BY MOD} over and over about a moot point.

FOUL LANGUAGE IS NOT ALLOWED HERE! THIS IS WARNING NUMBER 1.

[concerned]

90% of managing the site is support. Thus, managing the site would mean support.

Of course I had my hands on the site, just not the support. I didn't do support, but I did everything else. Since I didn't do support, I most likely would not have gotten your emails or anyone elses, if you sent any.

Matrixwatch.org creates reputations lol?

I'm tired of arguing this one point over and over again. I'm going to do something productive now, like answer emails, rather than listen to you {EDITED BY MOD} over and over about a moot point.

FOUL LANGUAGE IS NOT ALLOWED HERE! THIS IS WARNING NUMBER 1.

NO!!! Managing the site is running the place. What about the other 10%? You can't say that you turned over the management of the site, and then say later that you only turned over 90% of the management of the site. Which is it? Be clear. That is the problem with you scammers. You are never clear about what you are trying to say. That is because you never want people to know the truth. That practice comes from site owners being deceitful.

Also, if you are tired of arguing the point over and over, then just stop arguing. You never gave any good arguments anyway. Nobody at this site will believe you, so it doesn't matter if you defend yourself or not, the people here will never believe you. That's what happens when you act in an unethical way. In this case you are right to not argue back.

[SuperEasyStuff]

NO!!! Managing the site is running the place. What about the other 10%? You can't say that you turned over the management of the site, and then say later that you only turned over 90% of the management of the site. Which is it? Be clear. That is the problem with you scammers. You are never clear about what you are trying to say. That is because you never want people to know the truth. That practice comes from site owners being deceitful.

Also, if you are tired of arguing the point over and over, then just stop arguing. You never gave any good arguments anyway. Nobody at this site will believe you, so it doesn't matter if you defend yourself or not, the people here will never believe you. That's what happens when you act in an unethical way. In this case you are right to not argue back.

Might as well if you believe that we're scammers and a matrix site no matter what, even though we're not. We'll let our record of commissions and items sent speak for themselves. :cool:

You guys will then have nothing to argue about other than GotMatrix and sites that are actually matrix sites.

Thanks,
SES

[FightingBack]

SES, MatrixWatch is a message board to talk about other scams as well. That includes yours. You know that 90% or more of your members will never receive their gift because they will never refer all the people they need. However, by using these commissions and buying eBooks excuse will not cover you or protect you if you ever do get sued. You seriously need to get this concept into your head if you haven't by now. I'm not trying to be rude but just think about it really hard after you read this post and understand what would happen if you do get sued. Your commissions and eBooks will not cover you in a lawsuit.

Secondly, if your customers ever do research on your site first by going to Google, MatrixWatch will be in the top three links twice! So all the people can read about your little scam.

MatrixWatch members, we should keep these threads active and view them quite often to bring these threads up to spot #1 on Google so when people search SuperEasyStuff, they'll read these threads first.

[jokach]

using these commissions and buying eBooks excuse will not cover you or protect you if you ever do get sued.


Very good point!

Take note as well that claiming that someone else was 'managing' your website or whatever you want to call it in this thread, is not going to cover you or protect you either if you get sued. You are the responsible party regardless.

[nirvana]

well you two may argue all you want but when it comes down to the actual 'scammed' people here i am one of them, i put through three refferals and absolutely nothing and surely you will answer your OWN emails even when your website is apparently controlled by someone else!

[MatrixWatch]

...but when it comes down to the actual 'scammed' people here i am one of them, i put through three refferals and absolutely nothing and surely you will answer your OWN emails even when your website is apparently controlled by someone else!

Yes. And THAT is the issue. Nirvana feels that there was some scamming going on, and so far he has only received excuses about management.

Nirvana, let us know if you get to any resolution with SES.

SES,

I hope that although this thread has become a little tense the people here are only looking for some answers, that is all. I'm sure that all the tension will cool down if you could just give some solid statements that put all of these complaints and issues to rest. If you feel that in reflecting upon it you may have done something wrong, then it really makes things easier when you admit to it and try to rectify the situation. Avoiding the issue and pointing fingers only escalates the tension and inevitably leads the customers toward a united effort to oust your business. Not a good ending... I've seen it happen a few times already.

[SuperEasyStuff]

Thanks for the advice Watchdog :)

We're currently working with all users on our requests forum right now to sort everything out. It's mostly been sorted out, except for a few issues.

Thanks,
SES

[theGuru]

Thanks for the advice Watchdog :)

We're currently working with all users on our requests forum right now to sort everything out. It's mostly been sorted out, except for a few issues.

Thanks,
SES
I have an issue but it is impossible to get a hold of you. :mad: