Quickpros

[Keelhaul]

Has anyone heard anything about a MLM called Quickpros? My wife got involved in this without telling me and I'm concerned. So far it's only cost $150.

So, how long until I'm a millionare? Hehehe...

[ycchen]

Let me just show you one 'alternative' view on this Quickpros MLM, and you can decide for yourself. I guess you might like to think about getting a refund :) Quickpros looks pretty much like a herbalife story to me. Check this brilliant report on 'herbalife' story after you read the following view on Quickpros. http://www.cockeyed.com/workfromhome/workfromhome_s.html

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff53135.htm

QuickPros made promises that they never kept, when I complained and asked for refund they refused and locked me out of my website quickproz.biz Hawaii

QuickPros
Address:
Nationwide, U.S.A.
Phone Number:

Fax:

QuickPros “claims” to be an internet marketing company and “claims” to market for Life Force International (please note that Life Force International appears to be legitimate and may not be aware of the crooked tactics of QuickPros) I joined QuickPros back in September of 2002 when they had a pre-launch to entice members of the Concorde Group (another marketing company) to join them, they claimed that they would provide more and better service than Concorde Group and offered a special pre-launch rate and a pre-payment plan for 1 year.

QuickPros told everyone that the new site would be up and running by the end of October 2002, that didn’t happen then they said November, that didn’t happen then they said December, that also did not happen. The site finally launched in January of 2003, however it had so many system failures and other problems it was useless. During the time from September to January members also had to spend at least $150.00 per month to in purchases of LFI products to remain a member of QuickPros (this was not a requirement of LFI).

The QuickPros marketing group is run by 3 primary individuals, Sid Zagri, Chris Tinney and Richard Strayer, they claimed to have a unique marketing plan that would guarantee business success to it’s members by promoting members websites and handling the marketing for them including prospecting for new associates, and contacting current associates by e-mail to have them enroll as members in the program thereby building your business. After several months they admitted that there system was not working correctly and they couldn’t get it to do what they wanted and that the members would have to go out and purchase other additional programs such as auto responders etc to handle what there program had promised to do in the beginning. Many of these additional services were services recommended by the 3 individuals above and were also being used by them for which they received a commission for new members.

There program also claimed to have a unique method of recruiting new members that would automatically contact new associates for you to help get them to convert to full member. None of there concepts worked and the system was and is continually being changed, with less and less of the original concept in tact, each change ended up costing more money to it’s members. I had complained several times about the changes but was continually promised that things were going to get better and to just hang on.

I had been out of work for almost 2 years and had no extra income and this was something I desperately needed to work and I had changed from Concorde to QuickPros because it was supposed to offer more services and less expense. I attempted to call Sid Zagri several times but was ignored and e-mails were left unanswered, One e-mail I sent to Rich Strayer came back with the comment that if I didn’t have any money then maybe I should just drop out. I waited a couple more weeks in the hopes that things were going to improve however they didn’t and I sent an e-mail requesting a refund because they were supposedly not billing anyone from September to January due to the site problems.

My request for a refund was refused and I was told that they do not give refunds, I was then locked out of my own website that I had already paid for and was removed from the power line, all my prospects and associates were given to someone else.

It is my opinion that this company is nothing but a scam and would highly recommend that anyone receiving an e-mail asking them to join QuickPros not only delete it but report it to the Better Business Bureau and the Office of Attorney General in their area.

Gene
Chandler, Arizona
U.S.A.

[ycchen]

Two more complaints.

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff63982.htm

7/17/2003 4:11:30 PM

QuickPros ripoff deleted me from web and will not stop making me pay for what I do not have ripoff scam con artists LasVegas,Nevada

Company
QuickPros
Address:

Quebec
U.S.A.
Phone Number:

Fax:


I joined QuickPros in April and found out it was not for me. So I tried to drop out and had no luck and still have to pay for it. tried my credit card company to stop payments they refused. They told me to resolve this myself. No can do. I found an email to the person who sponsored me and no luck. I do not know what else to do.

Joann
Fredericksburg, Virginia
U.S.A.

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff89897.htm

5/2/2004 8:48:49 PM
QuickPros ripoff - Says you've earned a check from new members under you sign up to get the check Las Vegas Nevada

Company
QuickPros
Address:
www.quickpros.biz
Las Vegas Nevada
U.S.A.
Phone Number:

Fax:


Send endless emails to get you to join Quickpros. Say they are holding your position and you will be paid for those signing up under you. Send you another email saying you have just earned a commission check from a new member under you. To claim the commission, just join. Send another email with another new member under you and promising another commission.

They keep doing this up to 5 new people under you - a check of over $125.00 you will receive if you join before midnight. You join and it is total silence from there on. No response to emails. No check as promised.

Going to upline sponsors and mentioning the check, they cancel your account. A complete scam. Do not join them. they are a ripoff.

Dave
Morgan, Georgia
U.S.A.

[Sid Zagri]

I ran across this post and wanted to provide an update from my perspective as one of the co-founders of QuickPros.

For the record I am a member in good standing with Life Force International.

QuickPros did get off to a rocky start and did in fact work well for about half of 2004. During that time we were averaging 30-40 upgrades per day (associate who became 100 BV members). As we progressed through the year the numbers got worse and in facxt retention of members were never very good. The whole powerline concept attracts folks with a lottery mentality (I was one of them with the Concorde Group).

As I became aware that the system was not working for the average networker I began asking my partners to consider changing the way we did business. I was able to convince them to implement some changes to increase the focus on the product...but ultimatly my requests fell on deaf ears. Today QuickPros is on it's last legs (3-4 upgrade per week as I understand it from one of the programmers that I still stay in touch with) I resigned my position as President and gave my equity to my partners and I want nothing to do with it.

I then decided to research the top performers in Life Force and found that it was a simple back to basics approach that really worked for folks like Crown Diamond Holly Wheeler.

I was then introduced to Virtual Office Systems who creates customer Acquisition Programs for nutritional MLM and contracted with them to create a system for me and my LFI group called www.customers4life.biz.

This program works incredibly well for customer acquisition.

In addition I knew that business partner Acquisiotn so I recently launched www.lfileads.com. This is a program that provides live biz op leads exclusively for LFI members.

As for the other players - Chris Tinney and Rich Staryer are working other programs. I wish them well but I am going to stick with LFI. Take a look at www.proactivityteam.com/qualitywellness if you want to connect with me. You can also listen to: http://teamomentum.com/TheOnlyGameInTown.mp3 to understand why LFI truely is the only game in town!

Sid Z.

P.S. Here is a flash movie that accurately describes the LFI opportunity today: http://abusinessdecision.com/qualitywellness

[Circuit]

...to understand why LFI truely is the only game in town!

Sid Z.



So not only are you the good guy in what is/was a very bad situation, but you're blatantly promoting more *crap* here as well, and I tell you, I cannot recall the oh-so-numerous times I have heard the "only game in town" quote... hehehe

This must be one big town, and everyone's playing the same game...

lol

[patbutterfly]

Dear Readers:

I would like to respond to two different aspects of this thread. I came upon this thread in google when I was checking some stats. For that I am grateful as I was not aware of this site and I think it's a great site and a wonderful concept.

So as to the first item:

QuickPros told everyone that the new site would be up and running by the end of October 2002, that didn’t happen then they said November, that didn’t happen then they said December, that also did not happen. The site finally launched in January of 2003, however it had so many system failures and other problems it was useless. During the time from September to January members also had to spend at least $150.00 per month to in purchases of LFI products to remain a member of QuickPros (this was not a requirement of LFI).[]


This is an example of how information taken out of context can be misconstrued. I used to use this system, so I know. You can join Life Force and be a free member, you cannot, however receive commissions without purchasing products on autoship. Life Force has three options of associates, and the commission levels vary based on product purchase of 25BV, 50BV, 100BV. It is designed that way so that people who are not wanting to build a business are able to eventually get their products paid for by referring friends and family to their free LifeForce site. However, the commission levels and bonus opportunities vary significantly from 25BV to 100BV, all those facts and figures are there in plain sight. The other purpose of purchasing 100BV in products is to promote optimum wellness through a usage of a combination of the products. Of course, LFI does not require what level you come in at, but Quickpros did because it was designed for business builders. I pesonally contacted anyone who accessed the system and in the course of my presentation, explained all the options available when it appeared that they were not quite ready to become a network marketer. For the distributors in Life Force who love the products, our first goal is always to ensure that the customer and/or distributor has a powerful postive product experience. So yes, Life Force does not require that, and yes Quickpros did and they provided some excellent software. However, the fear of loss mentality drew people to it who were looking for get rich quick and ultimately it did not attract people who were sincere in wanting to develop and maintain their own business.

My next item is in response to the previous reply:

It is interesting to me that you are so quick to make a cynical judgement.

Did you investigate http://customers4life.biz? Did you see that all our potential customers complete a survey, that we have the ability to hand-pick who we speak with, that their is a definite health focus, that there is a variety of training and support along with an excellent contact manager?

And did you check out http://proactivityteam.com and use the comparison calculator to check out Life Force International's compensation plan against many other health companies in the industry? You can access both these sites and browse them without having to leave your information, although I am thinking you would want to be contacted after you see what is offered there.

Did you listen to the audio link? It's not connected to anything but your headset, to discover what is unique about Life Force's compensation plan compared to others in the industry.

I don't blame you for being cynical, there's alot of garbage out there, but I would do a little investigating before I was so quick to draw conclusions.

I work with Sid Zagri and David Nelson, and they are both of high integrity. Did it occur to you that maintaining integrity in his business, and providing the best tools possible for part-time network marketers may have necessitated leaving companies that were generating an affiliate income? Probably not.

BTW, what is your network marketing experience and what company are you currently involved with? If you have not done network marketing before, I suggest that you take a look at those links and it may lead you to the conclusion that not everyone is out to "rip you off" as you put it. Some of us are actually interested in a win-win situation and we provide training and support for our downlines.

I wish you the best in whatever it is you are really looking for.


Regards-
Butterfly

[Namaste]

Sid Zagri is an owner in QuickPros. I have no idea why he would write this and say this other than to "push" his new "crap" as you say.

He currently owns 25% and was paid well up until the time he decided to sell leads and left. We refused to sell them as the leads didn't meet our standards. He offered us a commission if we would promote them and we said no to that as well. He then became a silent partner and set about selling his leads to other groups as no one here would buy them.

I'm sure he hopes to make more money again with his ownership in QP, but since the time he started telling people to sign their spouses up under him he hasnt talked to many other LFI leaders.

I am working another program and due to legal threats can't comment on that but a simple google of my name will tell you who I am and what I have done over the past 14 years in Network Marketing. Although now I am not accepting any new poeple under me. I pretty much have my team set.

Folks, there are bad programs and good programs. Network Marketing is a very viable buisness. I have seen it change many people's lives.

Indeed sids downline are people I recruited and trained and it has paid he and I very well - but MORE IMPORTANTLY it has paid THEM very well.

Network Marketing is the last chance for the little guy - regardless of what the naysayers say.

Namaste,
Chris Tinney
Sid's Partner in QuickPros

[Seany]

Hi! Keelhaul,

I was with Quickpros the networking arm for Lifeforce products some years back but had to give it up after six months as I was losing money on membership fees and products. I was also recommended to invest in phone leads which I did but after calling thousands of 'potential' members and spending hundreds of dollars, I found that most of them had answering machines or were just not interested. The Lifeforce products claim to be a sort of 'cure all' for all kinds of illnesses which is not proven and it is difficult to sustain the membership and pay for these relatively expensive products each month them if you are not making any income.

In network marketing, I found that there is no substitute for meeting potential members face to face and getting to know them and their particular needs and goals before you talk to them about your business. This is the main difficulty with an online business but there are many other expenses involved with any networking business.

If you have money to play around with, I would strongly recommend you talk to a reputable investment advisor about putting some of it in a long term growth fund which would reap you a significant income over a fixed period, say 5 years, rather than invest in a networking business which is entirely membership oriented, ie it depends on how many people you recruit and how successful they are in recruiting others; a very risky business don't you think?

Regards,

Seany