Matrix Paradise down?

[mercinary]

The egcircuit.net and matrixparadise.com websites have the following on the homepage:

November 23, 2004

Matrix Paradise is now transferring ownership of the site. The new management will be just as good as the old. We are currently reviewing several applications for a new manager of Matrix Paradise. Matrix Paradise currently earns about $1000/day. We need a knowledgable, trusted, and polite new owner to run Matrix Paradise. If interested, please send an application to puffy@egcircuit.net. The application can be downloaded here. You will receive full access to Matrix Paradise including admin panel, payments, domain, and support administration only after you have been supervised for months.

To our existing customers:
We ask that you do not send us support questions. We are busy finding you a new owner that can be trusted. This process may take a few weeks to accomplish, but is absolutely neccessary to ensure our current customers' well-being. Your place is still reserved in line! Matrix Paradise has not closed!

Thank you for your pateince and understanding in this process.
-Matrix Paradise Management-
Please, only use live help to contact us!


I highly recommend that the customers of Matrix Paradise not stand for this. This sounds like a stalling technique. Before you know what has hit you, M.P. will be gone for good, and with all of your money. Start requesting refunds, and filing complaints BEFORE this site shuts down for good. get out while you can!!!!

-Merc

[jokach]

Its amazing that something like this would even be posted, so its definitely a stalling technique. I think the best part of it is:


We are busy finding you a new owner that can be trusted.


I agree with merc, anyone involved in that site should step up and start requesting refunds and file your complaint now before it disappears ...

[concerned]

Not a supprise, and they certainly don't make $1000 per day. I say their lists, and I don't think they even make that much in a month. It's not like it takes any time to manage and own a ghost town. He maybe puts in 5 minutes per week, so he can't say that he is too busy. In fact, he spent more time on this forum proving that he was a punk kid, and threatening us than managing the site.

[concerned]

November 23, 2004

Matrix Paradise is now transferring ownership of the site. The new management will be just as good as the old. We are currently reviewing several applications for a new manager of Matrix Paradise. Matrix Paradise currently earns about $1000/day. We need a knowledgable, trusted, and polite new owner to run Matrix Paradise. If interested, please send an application to puffy@egcircuit.net. The application can be downloaded here. You will receive full access to Matrix Paradise including admin panel, payments, domain, and support administration only after you have been supervised for months.

To our existing customers:
We ask that you do not send us support questions. We are busy finding you a new owner that can be trusted. This process may take a few weeks to accomplish, but is absolutely neccessary to ensure our current customers' well-being. Your place is still reserved in line! Matrix Paradise has not closed!

Thank you for your pateince and understanding in this process.
-Matrix Paradise Management-
Please, only use live help to contact us!

Lets look at the parts in bold.

The first one is quite funny. Of course the management is going to be AS good as the old. Could management get worse? After all, the current highly qualified owner acted like a baby on this forum.

The next one is also quite funny. They ALWAYS needed a knowledgable, trusted, and polite new owner. They never had that in the first place.

The last one is just the funniest thing I have ever seen. The new owner will need supervision? What the heck is that supposed to mean? I didn't know that when you bought your own business, you still had a boss.

[MatrixWatch]

That announcement is completely ridiculous. New management as good as the old? Oh, so the new management will send viruses to members of a public forum and issue threats to anyone who wants to ask honest questions about their legality.

And what about that $1000 a day deal? Over 80% of the small businesses in our country don't make that kind of money, so why would he want to get rid of it?

Whenever a matrix owner looks to transfer the site to a new owner it is a bad thing for the customers. I can confidently say from my experiences with over 250 matrix sites that in EVERY CASE where an owner transferred the site over to new management, the site self destructed. It the customers of Matrix Paradise know what is good for them, they would start acting right now to get out of that matrix. It is an illegitimate scam masquerading as a business, and it is a bad business at that. Matrix Paradise has endless liabilities, and I pity the person who takes it over.

[mikv]

so thier search for a new owner is taking up so much of thier time that they can't answer any questions.....they are on their way out and this is just a way to buy time.

[magicmastermind]

Well consider this...the site I may be campaigning against has approx 100 $40 items sols every day. I know this because I have been monitoring this for the past 2-3 weeks. That's $4000 income daily. Now consider the lucky people at the top of the lists. Theyd make say half the profits, maybe more (some companies do it this way) and then they send out crappy signal boosters (I think they're just stickers - i've recieved some and they don't do much) in envelopes...the cost of this is just a little, lets say $1 per letter (because you wont spend more than that really to send a letter abroad - correct me if i'm worng i've never done it) so this site makes approx $1800 a day. Other sites as popular as this site could make the same. The two most popular at the moment in my opinion are ezlaptops and getgiftsforfree. I think getgiftsforfree.com is more likely to have satisfies customers than ezlaptops. ATM i'm trying to find someone from getgiftsforfree.com who has had a free gift from them. I think they just take cash, which shouldn't be offered.
People are so greedy. They want a free gift, and then given the opportunity they take cash instead. Why did the invest $40 in the first place?

[MatrixWatch]

:) Very true, at least in the beginning.

Now, when the popularity begins to fade and copycat sites begin to start up and advertise their shorter lists, sales will begin to slow down.

So, while SES may have done very well in the beginning, perhaps VERY well, they will not continue to do so in the future. In fact, an old matrix site is a very bad thing to own. All of those names represent a liability for the owner, and he will be paying 80-90% of that money to the courts and collections agencies once someone sues the site.

[ycchen]

They want a free gift, and then given the opportunity they take cash instead. Why did the invest $40 in the first place?

SES is dead with the WORST excurse I have ever heard of! :mad: All victims need to take immediate actions.

Just a quick response to magicmastermind's last comment. We have been responding to this kind of question from day one from pro-matrix people (and now some of them are "matrix-neutral, still don't know that that means).

Here is their assumption of a rational customer:

Customer are mature adult and they should be responsible for any actions that they take. If they are greedy to participate in the pyramid scheme, that's their own fault and they should not blame anyone for their own rational choice.

Our response: How do they know they are participating in a pyramid scheme? It is unfair to blame the victim (the customer) IF the customers are deceived by the owner of the scheme, and at least 80-90% of them are DECEIVED. If they are told CLEARLY that they are joining a pyramid/ponzi scheme at their own risk, I am sure 90% of the customer will not join. If this deceived member do not donate their money at the bottom, the rational customers (who knows very well about how to scam a pyramid scheme) will NOT join either because they rely on deceived customer to cycle themselves out of the pyramid scheme! It it ABSOLUTELY crucial for those who scam the pyramid scheme to support the deceiving tactics of the owner, otherwise they will not cycle!! That is when the INTEREST of the owner and the early birds come together.

It is very easy to prove my case. How would you comprehend this phenomenon that so many people join a $25 list when they are put at the 3000 or 4000 position at gotmatrix, which take probably 100 years to cycle? Why would any RATIONAL GREEDY adult do this kind of stupid thing? How do you explain this? Do you think if the owner and the supporters tell them the truth, they will still do that?

To learn more about deciving tactics of owner, please go here.
http://www.matrixwatch.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1091

To learn how supporters help the owner to cover out the truth of the pyramid scheme, you can check the forum of any matrix-sites. Gotmatrix was the best forum to prove my point, but too bad it is gone. You may still find some in pro-matrix forum -- all-matrix.com.

[astrognats]

have some contact info

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[jokach]

Thanks astrognats!

We have the information you provided if anybody needs it, please PM one of the moderators for it. We cannot post peoples person information on this site for legal reasons (obviously).