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mercinary
November 24th, 2004, 07:20 PM
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<br><br>Gotmatrix.com is one of the premier matrix sites on the web. Since their inception in early 2003 they were very popular. Based on our closest estimates, Gotmatrix.com's total revenue is between $300,000-$500,000. Even Gotmatrix with its loyal fan-base and continual flow of new customers can not escape the mathematical paradox that all matrix scams face.

I'm creating this sticky because the influx of people who have been scammed by Gotmatrix is pretty heavy. I'm going to use this as a central repository for the activities surrounding bringing Gotmatrix customer's justice.

While the thread is going to be locked out from posts, I am going to periodically update it with useful information regarding the situation. Check this page often

Now onto how you can get justice....<br><br>

#1: Register with matrixwatch.com<br>
If you haven't done so already, <a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/register.php?" target =new_page">register with us here at matrixwatch.com.</a> It's free, quick and easy!



#2: Start grouping together

Important note: By joining any of the various consumer movements here at Matrixwatch, there is no expressed commitment. Additionally, there is no expressed intent of filing a lawsuit. Should a lawsuit be filed by a fraud victim, and we become aware of it, the list of victims contained herein will simply allow us to inform these victims of the potential lawsuit.

In the event of a civil suit and/or criminal case, we need a list of people who have been scammed by Gotmatrix. I am going to facilitate that right here. Below I will keep a list of all of the Matrixwatch members that are victims of Gotmatrix.

<a href=http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/private.php?do=newpm&u=655" target="new_page">Private Message<a/> me or <a href="mailto:Mercinary@matrixwatch.com" target="new_page">email</a> me if you want to be added!!!

When requesting to be added to the list, please send me the following:
Your matrixwatch.com login id (Mandatory)
Amount of money you have lost on Gotmatrix
Where you are from
Complaints you have filed


Note: At your request, we will censor any given field(s) of the below information. The information still must be given, but will be kept private.

<br><table border="2"><tr><td><b>Victim Name</b></td><td><b>Amount Invested</b></td><td><b>Victim Location</b></td><td><b>Complaints Filed</b></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?u=1684" target="new_page">Grantnel</a></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?u=1691" target="new_page">HmGnSling</a></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?userid=420" target="new_page">glyphrunner</a></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?action=getinfo&username=kutibah" target="new_page">Kutibah</a></td><td><center>$72.50</center></td><td><center>California</center></td><td><center>None</center></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?userid=284" target="new_page">nicoleeubanks</a></td><td><center>$2000.00</center></td><td><center>Louisiana</center></td><td><center>Ohio A.G., Louisiana A.G., IFCC, BBB, C.C. Co., Paypal</center></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?u=1597" target="new_page">OROZCOM</a></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?userid=1667" target="new_page">Dmek69</a></td><td><center>$50.00</center></td><td><center>Texas</center></td><td><center>IFCC, FTC, Texas A.G.</center></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?u=1498" target="new_page">anakin</a></td><td><center>$150.00</center></td><td><center>Texas</center></td><td><center>Cincinatti Police Dept.</td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?userid=1666" target="new_page">jcyenting</a></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?userid=1713" target="new_page">gotmatrixvictim</a></td><td><center>$2047.50</center></td><td><center>Quebec, Canada</center></td><td><center>None</center></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?u=1714" target="new_page">ufrencher</a></td><td></td><td><center>Texas</center></td><td></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?u=1715" target="new_page">chellasmatrix</a></td><td><center>$3,000.00</center></td><td><center>Missouri</center></td><td><center>Ohio County Sheriff</center></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?u=1650" target="new_page">omaly143</a></td><td><center>$475.00</center></td><td><center>Florida</center></td><td><center>None</center></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?userid=1722" target="new_page">cornelius</a></td><td><center>$385.00</center></td><td><center>Wisconsin</center></td><td><center>None</center></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?userid=1658" target="new_page">shykid10</a></td><td><center>$150.00</center></td><td><center>California</center></td><td><center>IFCC, City Attorney, Cincinatti BBB, Local BBB</center></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?do=getinfo&userid=1708" target="new_page">ecedra</a></td><td><center>$270.00</center></td><td><center>North Carolina</center></td><td></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?userid=540" target="new_page">ucbay</a></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?u=1577" target="new_page">nottoday1000</a></td><td><center>$275.00</center></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?u=1710" target="new_page">whacker151</a></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?u=1726" target="new_page">Dasurgicaltech</a></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?u=1399" target="new_page">zapatino</a></td><td><center>$1200.00</center></td><td><center>France</center></td><td></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?userid=1727" target="new_page">ml609</a></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?u=1268" target="new_page">marlav</a></td><td><center>$15.00</center></td><td><center>Michigan</center></td><td><center>IFCC</center></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?userid=1351" target="new_page">asdffhjglj</a></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?u=1669" target="new_page">casp420</a></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?u=1737" target="new_page">davidnme</a></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?userid=511" target="new_page">nrich239</a></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?userid=1679" target="new_page">samslack</a></td><td><center>$100</td><td><center>Illinois</td><td><center>All!</td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?u=1745" target="new_page">bluetech</a></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?userid=1751" target="new_page">TearJerker917</a></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?userid=1756" target="new_page">Bi0hazrd</a></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?u=1765" target="new_page">robinrose4</a></td><td><center>$165.00</center></td><td><center>Texas</center></td><td></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?u=1768" target="new_page">nitro976</a></td><td><center>$200.00</center></td><td><center>California</center></td><td><center>None</center></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?u=1734" target="new_page">srpeabs</a></td><td><center>$100.00</center></td><td><center>Massachusetts</center></td><td></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?u=1778" target="new_page">allen8354</a></td><td><center>$375.00</center></td><td><center>Indiana</center></td><td></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?userid=1780" target="new_page">Tertho</a></td><td><center>$100.00</center></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?u=1782" target="new_page">PamelaB52</a></td><td><center>$200.00</center></td><td><center>New York</center></td><td><center>New York A.G.</td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?u=1781" target="new_page">Andy King</a></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?u=1775" target="new_page">rockado1977</a></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?userid=1785" target="new_page">ericawful</a></td><td><center>~$3,000.00</center></td><td><center>California</center></td><td><center>None</center></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?u=1766" target="new_page">purplezydeco</a></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?userid=1791" target="new_page">drewaf63</a></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?userid=1794" target="new_page">feeliecat01</a></td><td><center>$277.00</center></td><td><center>California</center></td><td><center>IFCC, payzip.net</center></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?u=1793" target="new_page">JSowder</a></td><td><center>$273.00</center></td><td><center>Ohio</center></td><td><center>Ohio A.G., IFCC, Cincinatti BBB</center></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?userid=1795" target="new_page">schannor</a></td><td><center>$340.00</center></td><td><center>Oregon</center></td><td><center>None</center></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?userid=1796" target="new_page">temujin</a></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?userid=1810" target="new_page">dazzlir</a></td><td><center>$330.00</center></td><td><center>Texas</center></td><td><center>None</center></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?userid=1809" target="new_page">ydi71</a></td><td><center>$358.00</center></td><td><center>Texas</center></td><td><center>None</center></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?userid=1815" target="new_page">Fletchmeister</a></td><td><center>$100.00</center></td><td><center></center></td><td><center>None</center></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?userid=1817" target="new_page">Civi</a></td><td><center>$500.00</center></td><td><center>California</center></td><td><center>None</center></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?userid=1798" target="new_page">jeffro</a></td><td><center>$50.00</center></td><td><center>Washington</center></td><td><center>None</center></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?userid=1820" target="new_page">Shok</a></td><td><center>$275.00</center></td><td><center></center></td><td><center>None</center></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?userid=1827" target="new_page">nemette</a></td><td><center>$100.00</center></td><td><center>Canada</center></td><td><center>Cincinnati BBB, PayZip, FRC, IFCC</center></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?userid=2082" target="new_page">feludize</a></td><td><center>$300.00</center></td><td><center>Australia</center></td><td><center>None</center></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?userid=2224" target="new_page">streetscience</a></td><td><center>$275.00</center></td><td><center>California</center></td><td><center>None</center></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?userid=1783" target="new_page">raja142</a></td><td><center>$50.00</center></td><td><center>Canada</center></td><td><center>None</center></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?userid=1814" target="new_page">krayzied240</a></td><td><center>$1000.00</center></td><td><center>Texas</center></td><td><center>Paypal</center></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?userid=2456" target="new_page">natd</a></td><td><center>$120.00</center></td><td><center>North Carolina</center></td><td><center></center></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?userid=2488" target="new_page">Cavallarog</a></td><td><center>$600.00</center></td><td><center>California</center></td><td><center>None</center></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?userid=2689" target="new_page">Fishbmon</a></td><td><center>$103.00</center></td><td><center>New Jersey</center></td><td><center>None</center></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?userid=3036" target="new_page">parat8t9</a></td><td><center>$40.00</center></td><td><center>New York</center></td><td><center>None</center></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?userid=3062" target="new_page">Psychox215</a></td><td><center>$85.00</center></td><td><center>Pennsylvania</center></td><td><center>None</center></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?userid=3493" target="new_page">Sanonjo</a></td><td><center>$300.00</center></td><td><center>Massachussetts</center></td><td><center>None</center></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?userid=1701" target="new_page">dkvincent</a></td><td><center>$683.00</center></td><td><center>Louisiana</center></td><td><center>None</center></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?userid=5973" target="new_page">FAYEWONG</a></td><td><center>$625.00</center></td><td><center>Nevada</center></td><td><center>None</center></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?userid=6088" target="new_page">vindfilms</a></td><td><center>$15.00</center></td><td><center>California</center></td><td><center>None</center></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?userid=6253" target="new_page">boilerroom86</a></td><td><center>$200.00</center></td><td><center>Michigan</center></td><td><center>None</center></td></tr><tr><td><a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/member.php?userid=6555" target="new_page">twwlww</a></td><td><center>$100.00</center></td><td><center>North Carolina</center></td><td><center>None</center></td></tr></table>

<br>
Total Number of Victims: 68
<br>


#3: Start filing complaints
MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL

The administration of Matrixwatch is only a medium for bringing Greg Day to Justice. We are not victims of Gotmatrix, and therefore cannot file any cmoplaints ourselves (or on the behalf of others). YOU, the victim, along with all the other victims, control your own destiny. Take 20 minutes and file a report with the following organizations. If you are on the list of victims above, you owe it to yourself and the rest of the victims. If everyone on the list files each of these complaints, things will start to happen fast. If very few people file reports....Greg Day will get away with your money. Each day that goes by, he is sitting somewhere blowing your hard earned money. Act Now!!!

*** <a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&file=viewcategory&cid=4" target="new_page">To assist you, we provide a series of complaint letter templates (click here).</a>

In order of importance:


-NEW- <A href="http://consumeraction.gov/state.shtml" target="new_page">File a complaint with your local consumer protection agency</a>
<a href="http://www.naag.org/ag/full_ag_table.php" target="new_page">File a complaint with the Attorney General in your state</a>
<a href="http://www.naag.org/ag/full_ag_table.php" target="new_page">File a complaint with the Attorney General in Ohio (this is where Greg Day, owner of Gotmatrix is from)</a>
<a href="http://www.ifccfbi.gov/index.asp" target="new_page">File a complaint with the Internet Fraud Complaint Center</a>
File a complaint with your local police
<a href="http://www.cinbbb.org/Complaints/L1Complaints.php" target="new_page">File a complaint with the Cincinnati Better Business Bureau</a>
<a href="https://rn.ftc.gov/pls/dod/wsolcq$.startup?Z_ORG_CODE=PU01" target="new_page">File a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission</a>
<a href="http://lookup.bbb.org/" target="new_page">File a complaint with your local Better Business Bureau</a>
<a href="http://complaints.bbb.org/SelectComplaintLinkFrameSet.asp" target="new_page">File a complaint with the National Better Business Bureau</a>
<a href="http://68.166.162.20/repoform.htm" target="new_page">File a complaint with the National Fraud Information Center</a>
File a complaint with <a href="http://www.fraud.org/internet/intset.htm" target="new_page">Internet Fraud Watch</a>
File a complaint with your credit card company
File a complaint with the payment processor that you used to pay Gotmatrix (i.e. Paypal).
File a complaint at <a href="http://www.ripoffreport.com/" target="new_page">Ripoffreport.com</a>


***NEW & IMPORTANT*** The contact info for the Cincinnati Police Department has been removed. One of our members (samslack) contacted that department, who informed him of two things:

#1: Greg Day is out of the Cincinnati jurisdiction. The correct office is the Clermont County Sheriff's Department at 513-732-7500.

#2: The only way to get anything done to Greg Day is to <a href="http://yp.yahoo.com/py/yploc.py?&clr=ypResults&stp=y&stx=8104710&desc=Law+Enforcement&qtx=police&tab=B2C&country_in=us" target="new_page">contact your local police department!!!!!!</a> We must get all of the victims to do this in order to achieve any results whatsoever. If you only file one complaint, make it with your local police department!</a>.




#4: Contact this news organization (if applicable)
-NEW- If you are from one of these states:

Indiana
Ohio
Kentucky


then get in contact with the following newsperson. This person is potentially doing a story on the gotmatrix scam. She wants to hear your story!

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Hagit Limor (pronounced Hug-EET) <a href="http://www.wcpo.com/wcpo/bios/hagit_limor.html" target="new_page">(Link to BIO)</a>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://www.wcpo.com/" target="new_page">WCPO-TV</a> Cincinnati
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;HLimor@wcpo.com
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(513) 852-4012




#5: Designate a leader

Once you have a significant number of members, designate someone the spokesperson. This person is going to have to carry the load of contacting a lawyer to work toward filing a class action lawsuit. When that person is selected, I will post their info here.



#6: Start saving evidence

It would be in your favor to save the following items if you still have them:

Receipts from Gotmatrix.com purchases
Bank statements showing Gotmatrix.com purchases
Credit Card statements showing Gotmatrix.com purchases
Paypal (or other pay-processor) history printouts showing Gotmatrix.com purchases
Email from Gotmatrix.com
Cached copies of the gotmatrix.com website

If you need copies of the Gotmatrix site for proof, there are some stored on web-archive.org. <a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1359" target="new_page">You can get details by clicking here here.</a>


I have created a thread that will act as an evidence repository. <a href="http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/showthread.php?p=15406#post15406" target="new_page">Post relevant info here.</a>



#7: Get the word out there

Help us get the word out about Gotmatrix.com's collapse, as well as the movement to get justice. We are doing our best to get the word out on other websites, but our resources are stretched to the limit right now. Do you know of a forum or website where Gotmatrix victims potentially might be hanging out? If so, feel free to refer people to this very thread. You can find these places by using a search engine and typing various things such as "gotmatrix", "matrix", etc etc. Please do not SPAM on our behalf as we do not condone such behavior.


#8: Tell your story

If you haven't already found it, <a href=http://www.matrixwatch.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=48" target="new_page">here is the link to our Gotmatrix forum</a>. This is where you folks can discuss your dealings with Gotmatrix. Feel free to tell your story here. Become active in the matrixwatch.com community!


Misc

Here is Greg Day's information. There are a number of addresses he has lived at:

greg@Gotmatrix.com


Got Matrix
8 Arbor Circle #822
Cincinnati, OH 45255

Gregory Day
2100 Link Side Dr
Cincinnati, OH
(513) 753-5117

Gregory Day
9374443351
PO Box 565
Mount Orab, OH 45154

Greg Day
432 N. Firestone Blvd.
Akron, OH 44301 US

Gregory Day
8 Arbor Cir
Cincinnati, OH
(513) 528-7633


Good Luck! And remember to stay tuned to this location for updates.

-Merc