Terminator 4 : The rise of the matrix

[poorme]

If Ez win the case;which is hard to be possible, we shall see
" Terminator 4 : the rise of the matrix "
I don't know who's gonna be Arnold in the next sequel. However Watchdog is doing a good job at this moment. If Watchdog loses, the horrible consequence is that there are gonna be so many more matrix sites breaking out like nuclear and consume many more money from the innocents. Right now there are more than 200 sites with so many eye-closed participants. Many sites have stagnant lists, and yet refunds are not granted. The lists of all sites will stop sooner or later.This means more wars between the eye-open customers and the matrix sellers.
We have to stop cyber-matrix now

" People are not blind, it was just the dust in their eyes. "
For me,after cleaning mine, I just realized that It is very wrong to do the business with someone that I have not even seen their faces before.Of all 200 sites, some sellers may be just kids or teens. Who knows?

[poorme]

Of all 200 sites, some sellers may be just kids or teens. Who knows?

[poorme]

Many matrix webs quote that they are not pyramid scheme. They should add that, "We are more like " The Leaning Tower of Pisa because we have a straight line structure and that of the tilt nature of the matrix. "We do not garantee how long we can stand. However, we will hopefully try to build more storeys til we reach the sky. Moreover, we will construct the new buildings every months to serve the customers's need. We do not care at all whether you truly understand the nature of our matrix scheme or not but it is compulsory to accept our agreement to live in our risky sky-high tower.

Final Note :1. refund is the obsene question, please don't ask about it
2. Prepare to blame your self when you are trapped

[MatrixWatch]

Very interesting analogy poorme.

[tcb1969a]

I think that is the most mundane analogy I have ever heard in my entire life....

But at least you got me laughing.....thanks.......

Perhaps you should be a standup comedian "poorme"

Sorry but I just couldn't resist responding to this..........

[poorme]

I just need to post some thought-provoking statements.
It sounds fun and it carriess truths, does not it?

"Only the very first persons are served."

[poorme]

Matrix community are like the fish which are kept together in the unattended ice-cooling container. Someday the fish will get spoiled. Some fish that go bad earlier will also effect other. Eventually, all the fish in the tank will inevitably stink.

[tcb1969a]

Originally posted by poorme
Matrix community are like the fish which are kept together in the unattended ice-cooling container. Someday the fish will get spoiled. Some fish that go bad earlier will also effect other. Eventually, all the fish in the tank will stink.


Your analogies are quite amuzing. Please keep them coming, I enjoy a good laugh.....

[poorme]

I hope they are not too offensive.

[tcb1969a]

Nope, there not offensive, just a good laugh......

[poorme]

The matrix owner is the rabbit who dig holes.
Only a small fraction of unwary customers can get to the "Wonder Land" Many get hurt and try to struggle up. However, since it is hard to go back up via the entrance because the owner will kick them down and laugh at them, some try to dig further to find the new outlets. Some of the diggerswho can get up to the surface may get scared and reluctant at first when they find the dog.But, it turns out that the dog help them to fight the mad owner.

[tcb1969a]

That was quite amuzing, poorme. I needed a good laugh today. It is kind of boring here at my job at the hotel I work at. Thanks I appreciate that.......

[MatrixWatch]

the dog is good. I am only trying to help peopld get their money back to the best of my ability. I fill out stacks of paperwork, pay for this site out of pocket, and expect nothing in return but the appreciation of those people I am helping. I am very optimistic about the results of this campaign, and I hope that the people use what money they receive to do something good for someone else. Can you imagine the possibilities if we all did this?

[tcb1969a]

Have you not realized yet Watch Dog you are doing more harm than good. You are causing people to lose money. And I am talking about the Matrix Customers not the Owners. By scaring the sites into closure cause they don't want to deal with the hassle of lawsuits, you are causing people to lose there money when the site closes down. And by the way, not everybody will get there money back by simply requesting it from the Pay companies. There are only a few pay companies that will, and really they are not obligated to do so.

So keep bragging, but you are hurting more people than you realize...

[poorme]

I believe it do good more than harm.
If the matrix are left open freely. There are gonna be numerous preys who get nothing and died in the holes. Now there are 200, next year 1000!!!! Too many bad sites out there. Doing the research won't help. Some who try their luck with newly open site may end up there admiring their first spot forever and get nothing.

I consider the overall effect in the long term

[MatrixWatch]

Originally posted by tcb1969a
Have you not realized yet Watch Dog you are doing more harm than good. You are causing people to lose money. And I am talking about the Matrix Customers not the Owners. By scaring the sites into closure cause they don't want to deal with the hassle of lawsuits, you are causing people to lose there money when the site closes down. And by the way, not everybody will get there money back by simply requesting it from the Pay companies. There are only a few pay companies that will, and really they are not obligated to do so.

So keep bragging, but you are hurting more people than you realize...

I'm not talking about refunds or chargebacks from the pay companies.

[tcb1969a]

Ok, poorme, I am also a matrix customer as well as owner. I have been to some sites and I am still waiting to cycle, then I go to other sites and cycle. I have been on sites that did not cycle because there lists became stagnant, and without me asking they refunded my money. I also have been on sites that I will probably never cycle on, and yet I chalk it up to a bad choice, and I go on to another Matrix site. I eventually make back any amount of money I lost on previous sites.

You seem to think that those who lose there money on one site just are stuck with no hope. They can go to another site after doing some research and get there money back. And how do I know this? Cause I am doing it......

[poorme]

I know how painful it is to give the money to others for free. I do not want to redeem it by indulge myself any more with the matrix. If I win, I still feel like I illegally take the money from others with the help from matrix owner. I should not have involved in the matrix.


Heal the world. Make it a better place. For you and for me and the entire human race. There are people dying. If you care enough for the living. Make it a better world for you and for me.

[Arzel]

tcb,

No matter how many different sites there are, and regardless of the different types of schemes you try, there will always be people that lose, and that number will always be at least 50% To say that you can just research other sites is not a solution.

[poorme]

Matrix owner think they are the untouchable who can write the law by their own. They know the forseen problems yet they open such a business.

[tcb1969a]

Originally posted by poorme
Matrix owner think they are the untouchable who can write the law by their own. They know the forseen problems yet they open such a business.

Actually I was unaware that opening up a Matrix site was such a big problem. When I got in, there were just over 100 matrix sites that I knew of, so I didn't know that you all were here and that there was a problem.

Also, no one is above the law, not even the one who sent me a virus to my computer who I am 80% sure is one of the Watch Dog crew. No business, in this day and age is untouchable.....including Matrix sites.....

[poorme]

so I didn't know that you all were here and that there was a problem.

You need to so some good research before opening the business



Have you ever post your site's name in this web? I don't know why you suspect the person that gave you a cold is one of the watchdog crew?

[tcb1969a]

Well.....hmm.....lets see....

I haven't posted an auction for awhile, reason being cause a certain member here kept getting my auctions cancelled. So after quite a long time, several weeks since my auctions were ended and over, I receive a email from ebay auction ended early notice, though I did not have a auction even up at the moment...Well let's just say, it seems to me someone from this group, sent me a virus, reason why I am 80% sure it was. Though I can't prove it, I just surely hope it wasn't, cause there is no cause for that no matter how much you do not like people advertising on ebay Matrix sites.

But it is not like someone here is going to admit it and seeing how the email that had the virus was deleted as well, since it crashed my whole hard drive, it would be impossible to figure out who did it.

Actually, I wasn't even pursuing accusing anyone here anyways, I made a side remark awhile back when it happened, in fact not even on this forum, and so people keep asking me about it.

Well anyways, whether it was someone here or not, they will eventually get caught, cause no one can escape the long arm of the law.....

Also I did do some good research before I opened up the business, and at the time there was not this much hoopla going on....Further I still think the Matrix idea is a good thing for people......

[uwantme]

Originally posted by poorme
so I didn't know that you all were here and that there was a problem.

You need to so some good research before opening the business



Even with doing good research tcb would have come to the same conclusion. I am getting ready to opne my own type of site as many of you know and I have been doing my research. I have studied all the state laws for my state, I have researched all sites I could find similiar to mine, I have attained the attorney services of Grimes and Reeses(http://www.mlmlaw.com) who have 20+ years in this field, I have also went and visited my local city hall to discuss taxes and i have obtained my business license for my venture. So with all my good research and lawyers to be honest nothing has come afoul. There is no law against my type of matrix site, and no problems as of yet even with the basics of getting it started.

[tcb1969a]

And unfortunately, uwantme, Watch Dog and his crew will hunt you down and get your business closed by whatever means necessary. In fact I believe there was a post on this site, where Watch Dog even said that he will not rest until all Matrix sites are closed down......Sad thing is his idle threat is happening.....

[tcb1969a]

By the way, uwantme, let me know when your business starts so I can be first in line....I am also a Matrix customer as well as a Owner....

[poorme]

" The untouchable" that I use does not mean that hardcore Mafia.

The owner think they have FAQ that can protect them from being sued. Every reponsibilty are carried by the customers.
This is why I refer to the word "untouchable"


You know that there are already 100 sites why did you still open it?Don't you concern about the stagnant list?

There will be 1,000 next year if there is no anti-matrix persons who disclose the tilt nature of the matrix. I don't need to see american teens or kid, who knows about the internet, doing their hobby by hosting the matrix sites.

Last question :
What are the other incentives in opening matrix site apart from helping the poor who can not afford to purchase the item at the
list price?

I guess one of the answer is : the ebook is cheap.

[uwantme]

I know tcb...

Watchdog was already showing alot of interest in my potential site and asking alot of questions which I answered but in the end I posted this for him:

This is the thread where the entire conversation can be found:
http://www.matrixwatch.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=1294#post1294

My final reply:

To be honest watchdog, even if and when I do get the site up, I doubt I will post the name of it here. Your dogs are to mean and to be honest I dont want them visiting my site and nit-picking everything they can with it and causing trouble for me which they will more than likly do. I have heard the comments you and them make about not stopping until all the matrix sites are gone and all the payment processors will decline businesses like that.. No offense but I dont want to have to subject my new business to that kind of hassle you guys would more than likely will cause me

[tcb1969a]

Originally posted by poorme
" The untouchable" that I use does not mean that hardcore Mafia.

The owner think they have FAQ that can protect them from being sued. Every reponsibilty are carried by the customers.
This is why I refer to the word "untouchable"


You know that there are already 100 sites why did you still open it?Don't you concern about the stagnant list?

There will be 1,000 next year if there is no anti-matrix persons who disclose the tilt nature of the matrix. I don't need to see american teens or kid, who knows about the internet, doing their hobby by hosting the matrix sites.

Last question :
What are the other incentives in opening matrix site apart from helping the poor who can not afford to purchase the item at the
list price?

I guess one of the answer is : the ebook is cheap.

That was pretty funny, poorme.....

[uwantme]

Originally posted by poorme
Last question :
What are the other incentives in opening matrix site apart from helping the poor who can not afford to purchase the item at the
list price?

I guess one of the answer is : the ebook is cheap.

First you need to see the matrix site as a business.. Why does anyone open any type of business? Mainly its a personal question, yes to make money is also an answer. I mean to be honest who doesnt open a business to make money? Or else it woulldnt be a business. Other incentives is like my site the tangible goods that you can buy- belly rings, tongue rings, and other body jewelry thats $10 or $15 less than what you would pay at your local peircing shop, and you still get your free matrix entry.

[tcb1969a]

Originally posted by uwantme
I know tcb...

Watchdog was already showing alot of interest in my potential site and asking alot of questions which I answered but in the end I posted this for him:

This is the thread where the entire conversation can be found:
http://www.matrixwatch.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=1294#post1294

My final reply:

To be honest watchdog, even if and when I do get the site up, I doubt I will post the name of it here. Your dogs are to mean and to be honest I dont want them visiting my site and nit-picking everything they can with it and causing trouble for me which they will more than likly do. I have heard the comments you and them make about not stopping until all the matrix sites are gone and all the payment processors will decline businesses like that.. No offense but I dont want to have to subject my new business to that kind of hassle you guys would more than likely will cause me

Yep, I know, I read that post. Just be careful, he is quite resourceful, and determined. Which makes him and his crew very dangerous....

[poorme]

I agree that every business is open to make money. But both the legal and moral matters are to be taken into the seller's account.

If your venture does not initate the customer's vengeance, it's OK.

Note for TB
This one is not funny. If you laught at this you are crazy.

[MysticX23]

i'll laugh then...LOL LOL



ok, i'm just kidding

[tcb1969a]

Originally posted by poorme
I agree that every business is open to make money. But both the legal and moral matters are to be taken into the seller's account.

If your venture does not initate the customer's vengeance, it's OK.

Note for TB
This one is not funny. If you laught at this you are crazy.

I'm sorry, I took a laughing pill this morning and I just can't stop laughing.....


Just kidding....lol

[poorme]

Let's change the word "Matrix" to "Shelby Scheme" to honor Shelby like the "ponzi scheme" which is dubbed after the founder of a matrix site

This one makes me laugh too

[tcb1969a]

Originally posted by poorme
Let's change the word "Matrix" to "Shelby Scheme" to honor Shelby like the "ponzi scheme" which is dubbed after the founder of a matrix site


Have you ever thought of being a comedian.....?

You've got me rolling with laughter....

Not trying to offend you of course......