In Case You Didn't See This Yet

[nicoleeubanks]

A post from Gotmatrix forum. My favorite part is in red. It appears that Matrixwatch is to blame for all that has happened at Gotmatrix now... According to Greg' post. Strangely enough he has left my complaint posts up and responded, although he hasn't answered most of my questions, just generic. Anyway, I thought this was funny so I posted it here. I am so aggravated with Greg at this point I wanted to post on this thread and basically ask again what I have already posted to him before(which he has chosen to ignore), which is how all of these new excuses explain the fact that he wouldn't even come to his own forum and post for months and wasn't paying people long before the supposed "script errors". I guess you guys here at Matrixwatch must have been holding him hostage so he couldn't visit his board... Shame on you! :rolleyes:

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veejayv
Joined: 24 Feb 2004
Posts: 2
Posted: Dec Sat 18, 2004 7:47 pm Post subject: I need da 411!!

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What a roller coaster ride! One day it's here ... then one day it's not. Please somebody tell me if I've been taken for a chump.




Greg
Site Admin
Joined: 04 Mar 2003
Posts: 80
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Posted: Dec Sun 19, 2004 11:06 am Post subject:

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Gotmatrix.com has had a lot of problems keeping our site up. This is because a certain group has dedicated themselves to closing this site down because in their mind it is a scam. I'm sorry that unfortunately sometimes they prevail but it is not in my intentions to ever have this site down.

[MatrixWatch]

What I am still looking for is a direct response to the arguments we have made here. Attacking us personally only distracts the issue away from his activities and onto ours. We have always been there for the GotMatrix customers. Greg has repeatedly ignored our warnings and suggestions and has thumbed his nose at the realities behind the matrix sites.

The fact is that he has taken off with hundreds of thousands of dollars and then miraculously showed up after people filed complaints with law enforcement. Then, when Greg does show up he doesn't respond to a single argument or claim we have made here. Instead, he attacks us as the people who try to shut his site down.

Umm... No, Greg. Your site went down because you allowed it to shut down. You didn't let your customers know and you were content to keep them wondering.

Greg didn't realize the resolve and determination of his customers to organize themselves and push forward. We'll see what the coming weeks bring.

[sigx97]

WD- He invited you to call him. Why dont you to see what he has to say or maybe he could call you?

[mercinary]

To this day I find it amazing how matrix owners think Matrixwatch somehow controls the web, and at a wave of the hand we can get a site shut down.

-Merc

[MatrixWatch]

WD- He invited you to call him. Why dont you to see what he has to say or maybe he could call you?

When did he do this?

[sigx97]

Greg
Site Admin



Joined: 04 Mar 2003
Posts: 80
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Posted: Dec Sun 19, 2004 3:52 pm Post subject:

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Nicole,

I'm sorry I thought that you had cycled and been paid. I did not investigate into this before making the post. Your name sounded familiar but it must have been someone else or maybe someone you referred to us perhaps. I'm sorry for the mistake and I'm also sorry you've lost faith in me. As I posted before I will not post at matrixwatch to be criticized by one sided individuals that have no factual information to my credibility only their own assumptions. Perhaps the owner should give me a call to discuss his opinions about me to be credible himself.

[sisco50]

To this day I find it amazing how matrix owners think Matrixwatch somehow controls the web, and at a wave of the hand we can get a site shut down.

-Merc

In reality, matrix sites shut themselves down primarily due to their own actions or inactions during the time they are open. Everyone knows that the mathmatics regarding the matrix scheme spells doom in the end. The only question is time. How long a site stays open is dependant upon the site owner and how they handle their business or don't handle their business. Not very complicated, is it? :)

[MatrixWatch]

I have no obligation whatsoever to call Greg Day. I am available via email and via PM through these boards. The reality is that Greg knows that I don't call matrix owners at home, and he brings this up in order to distract everyone from the fact that he will not come here and speak to his own customers.

I can even make it possible for Greg, myself, and other selected persons to converse on a thread here at MatrixWatch. There are ways of bringing that about, but unfortunately Greg will not do it.

The whole purpose here is not to attack Greg personally or insult his credibility. Nor is it to launch an all-out flame war. The point is to show that his customers are looking for answers in a time when other matrix owners are giving refunds and being straightforward.

Greg's abrasive attitude toward us and all that we stand for has been his downfall since the beginning. I am among the few who still believe that he can change and make ammends. Our forums are always open to him if he chooses to take this path. We can also arrange things in such a way as to ensure that Greg is not attacked when he comes here.

[concerned]

Greg
Site Admin



Joined: 04 Mar 2003
Posts: 80
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Posted: Dec Sun 19, 2004 3:52 pm Post subject:

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Nicole,

I'm sorry I thought that you had cycled and been paid. I did not investigate into this before making the post. Your name sounded familiar but it must have been someone else or maybe someone you referred to us perhaps. I'm sorry for the mistake and I'm also sorry you've lost faith in me. As I posted before I will not post at matrixwatch to be criticized by one sided individuals that have no factual information to my credibility only their own assumptions. Perhaps the owner should give me a call to discuss his opinions about me to be credible himself.

Nicole's name ONLY sounded familiar to Greg? You would think that after all she tried to do in order to promote the site, that he would have at least remembered her name. What a complete joke. Nicole, I hope you remember that after all you did to stick up for him, all he can say is that your name sounds FAMILIAR. Don't expect a thanks, because he wouldn't know what to thank you for, except for maybe your money.

[ycchen]

I just went over to gotmatrix's form. Guest what? Greg has converted! Wait, not to anti-matrix like Ashu, but back to his "customer first scammer"! Wow! :D In the past 1 and half years, his average post is 1 per month! And now, he has posted more than all of his posts added together in the previous 18 months!

He even post his address and phone number!! Wow... so the question is ..... why now?! The simple answer is : desperation. He needs to cool down the complaints against him by paying cheap lip services, and probably pay a few cycled members.

If you have cycled, you could try your luck to get your cycled money and some of you might get lucky, cause he needs to have a few good testimonial to resume his reputation as "customer first scammer." So, he will pay anyone who is willing to do that.

But for those who are still in waiting lists, you better stop day dreaming about free gifts cause it will never happen. Continue to file complaints and contact the police! In the meantime, EVERYONE should ask for refund!!! That's your last chance.

Keep the heat up and keep this scammer in cincinatti, and don't let him run away. It is just a matter of time that he will close down the site and dissappear again!

[nicoleeubanks]

Nicole's name ONLY sounded familiar to Greg? You would think that after all she tried to do in order to promote the site, that he would have at least remembered her name. What a complete joke. Nicole, I hope you remember that after all you did to stick up for him, all he can say is that your name sounds FAMILIAR. Don't expect a thanks, because he wouldn't know what to thank you for, except for maybe your money.

Yea, I found the comment quite ridiculous too. Of course my name should sound familiar, besides Sigx I think I was the most active "supporter" of his site. Including also the fact that my NAME is over $2000 worth of times listed in his matrix lists. Anyway, I wanted to say something to him about that too, but I am getting sick of talking to him. In fact, miraculously my kids are sleeping and it is not yet too late so I was on here to look up the # you guys had listed for Clermont County so I can give them a call. Well, I guess all I can do now is see what happens. Like I told Greg, I don't feel like I have anything to lose on complaining since as far as I am concerned my money is already gone. I'll post an update once I know something.