I normally would not do this...BUT

[CurtXxX]

There is a matrix site out there that should be closed due to poor customer service. They use paypal, and I tried reporting them to paypal but they did squat for me...maybe one of the "regulars" here can try.

The site is http://www.laptop4free.tk

Laptop with like a 75 person matrix - OUCH!!! Those lists are going nowhere.

So, don't expect this from me again, but here is one time I will contribute to your "cause".

[MatrixWatch]

Well, well... It is nice to see someone come over from Vader's camp to lend a helping hand to the Rebel Alliance. I checked out the site. Now, how do you know they accept PayPal?

You haven't happened to see any matrix auctions on eBay too have you?

[CurtXxX]

WHOA WHOA WHOA Watchdog!

I said this was a one time thing! I know that they use paypal because I had signed up for them. Also, if you create a user name and password stuff you can then click on purchase and see the paypal logos pop up.

As for the ebay stuff...I am a big fan of people advertising matrix sites on Ebay so even if I did see any, I wouldn't tell you! I know you won't take it personally but that's the way I see it.

So yeah...one time thing...I am definately not joining your "alliance", but happened to know of that crappy site and thought I would let you handle it from there. I don't like what you are doing AT ALL; however, I am with a lot of people when they say that we need to get rid of the crappy sites - the one I listed is one of them.

[CurtXxX]

PS - Although I do not agree with your lawsuit and the childish eight year-old language and analogies that your lawyer used, I think EzExpo is one of those crappy sites too.

[tcb1969a]

I surely hope Curt, you are not condoning what Watch Dog and his crew are doing. By even giving him one site to shut down, is not looking so good. We all need to stick together and not give Watch Dog amunition to keep going.........

[MatrixWatch]

Actually, CurtXXx has addressed something that I have been thinking about lately. I would like this site to accommodate as many different viewpoints as possible, and there are some people involved in the matrix lists who support matrix sites, but also support Matrix Watch for exposing some of the underhanded tactics of the ultra-unethical matrix sites. I have created a section in the forums for this called "Complaints..". The great thing about the Complaints folder is that it doesn't show up in the Active Topics box on the main page. So, if the site owner you are posting about happens to drop by and take a quick look at the topics, he won't see his site listed. However, the movers and the shakers will see what was posted, and the members of the site in question can be directed to that folder as well. People need to have their complaints heard, and unfortunately many of the forums have matrix-site and pay-owners as moderators, so the truth has a funny way of disappearing. So, although the matrix-site owners do not agree with my personal views on matrix sites, they are more than welcome to come here and post their thoughts about the matrix business, or individual sites that they know inside information about. That can be our consensus.

[tcb1969a]

I agree, if there is a site out there that is doing some underhanded and bad business practices they should be dealt with. But then again Watch Dog, is that not your whole point anyway that All Matrix Sites are Bad business......Of course I know that's not true, and I know I am an honest person, but who really cares cause in the end I will suffer right along with the Bad Matrix sites......hmm....