View Full Version : Ematrixusa's other site, Pics of the Owner!
timerz168
July 15th, 2003, 02:49 PM
Heh, the owner of ematrixusa's other site
http://www.jakadia.com/index.htm
If you bought into his matrix, you can go to this webpage and check out pics of guy who ripped you off. Just barely out of high school!
timerz168
July 15th, 2003, 02:50 PM
oh yeah, check out the fixed up car he has on his "About Me" section....I wonder where he got all that money to fix it up and even get a nice outfit to match it???
northstar5757
July 15th, 2003, 02:54 PM
lol that's the guy that runs the site. lol
timerz168
July 15th, 2003, 02:59 PM
lol yeah....I don't mean to ridicule him, but that's what you get when you gain people's trust and then run off without a trace with their money.
He also has more pics under "Events"
The internet is small world sometimes, hehe. =P
northstar5757
July 15th, 2003, 03:02 PM
Actually it was his site that got my attention. An online friend was asking us about wether we though he should buy an alienware laptop from them about a month or two ago. thank god I convinced him not to.
uwantme
July 15th, 2003, 03:04 PM
Originally posted by timerz168
Heh, the owner of ematrixusa's other site
http://www.jakadia.com/index.htm
If you bought into his matrix, you can go to this webpage and check out pics of guy who ripped you off. Just barely out of high school!
How do you know this is who that boy is?
timerz168
July 15th, 2003, 03:06 PM
I know who the owner is because......I AM HIM!!!!!
hahaha j/k
Just did a whois search for his site and found his name Jake Posch.
Then searched google for his name.
Simple for us, too bad for him. :p
northstar5757
July 15th, 2003, 03:07 PM
No idea how he found it but seems real. Maybe did a search on the domain?
anwyas the owners name is jake ------> JAKadia
about the same age
has a link to ematrixusa
both the owner and this guy have Canadian ties
Obviously this could just a a coincidence but I have a feeling this is the guy.
northstar5757
July 15th, 2003, 03:09 PM
Oh ya and they are both from minnesota.
BTW here is his real job...
For a living right now I milk cows. Not to bad of a job, gets what I need paid for and if it does that I think its an alright job.
uwantme
July 15th, 2003, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by timerz168
I know who the owner is because......I AM HIM!!!!!
hahaha j/k
Just did a whois search for his site and found his name Jake Posch.
Then searched google for his name.
Simple for us, too bad for him. :p
Whoa, Whoa- Thats hardly right.. I just did a google search for Jake Porsch too and on the very first page of the search it brought up at least 3 different jake porschs..
If I do a google search on my name it brings up like 5 people who arent me, ones even a brain surgeon!!!
Im just saying to more detailed research before you post.. You never know if its the right person or not.
timerz168
July 15th, 2003, 03:12 PM
LOL...so in a way, he's calling all his customers COWS, cause he basically milked them! This guy and his braces are going to go down!
I hope he kept a reciept on those funky clothes he bought to take a picture with his car, cause he's going to need all the money he can save, milking cows won't pay the bills/fines! hehe
northstar5757
July 15th, 2003, 03:14 PM
This probably is him (based on the similarities). Of course yes you should be sure.
timerz168
July 15th, 2003, 03:15 PM
uwantme,
Yes I know this. But check it out. The owner of ematrixusa's name is Jake. This is well known by the customers. Also he is from minnesota, which matches where MO's are sent to him. Also, if you view that page listed above in the first message, he has a direct link to ematrixusa on his webpage.
If that doesn't catch ya, Ematrixusa's domain name is registered under the SAME phone # and address listed under his "Contact" section on the listed personal page above.
I wouldn't point out just any Jake Posch. =P
northstar5757
July 15th, 2003, 03:18 PM
Sorry to anyone who invested in this site. But this is the guy you trusted with your money? THIS IS THE GUY YOU TRUSTED WITH YOUR MONEY? Some one who isn;t even out of highschool?
And yet this guy was running one of the best Matrix site sout there? Hell maybe I should get into the business if soemone like him can get to the top of the pack :)
uwantme
July 15th, 2003, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by timerz168
uwantme,
Yes I know this. But check it out. The owner of ematrixusa's name is Jake. This is well known by the customers. Also he is from minnesota, which matches where MO's are sent to him. Also, if you view that page listed above in the first message, he has a direct link to ematrixusa on his webpage.
If that doesn't catch ya, Ematrixusa's domain name is registered under the SAME phone # and address listed under his "Contact" section on the listed personal page above.
I wouldn't point out just any Jake Posch. =P
Yeah but you didnt post all that when I asked you how you know its him you only said:
Just did a whois search for his site and found his name Jake Posch.
Then searched google for his name.
Simple for us, too bad for him
northstar5757
July 15th, 2003, 03:20 PM
Too bad for his customers aswell.
timerz168
July 15th, 2003, 03:23 PM
Uwantme,
oh i'm not attacking you, that's why I pointed out all the info. I understand that it should be concrete before allegations are sent out.
Oh and by the way, when you did that search on google and with "Jake Posch" in the Parentheses , you do get 3 searches for Jake Posch. Each of them are the same Jake Posch, heh. =)
Thanks though for pointing out that I should be more descriptive though. =)
poorme
July 15th, 2003, 03:41 PM
I wonder what is he doing now?
http://www.matrixwatch.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=185
How old are you "uwantme"?
poorme
July 15th, 2003, 04:02 PM
Im just saying to more detailed research before you post.. You never know if its the right person or not.
This is him.
Operah
July 15th, 2003, 04:57 PM
Well, now each and every angry customers can contact him by phone, or mail. How much of a mistake for him .... guess he'll learn on the run
amagic2u
July 15th, 2003, 07:54 PM
please pm me with his phone # and I think I will contact his collage to let them know what a fine young man they are letting into their school this is not good I was trying to make people at ematrixusa look at this guy all last week and when they did he ran lets tell his mom how proud she must be of her little boy I think I'll stop being a chef and start a dairy {J/K
CurtXxX
July 15th, 2003, 10:40 PM
amagic..that is possibly the most retarded thing I have ever heard...you are going to call up his college? What the hell for? LOL you amuse me!
uwantme
July 16th, 2003, 12:35 AM
Originally posted by poorme
How old are you "uwantme"?
Why do you want to know? I really dont see how its your business but I will tell you I graduated long time ago and I have a kid of my own.
amagic2u
July 16th, 2003, 12:38 AM
that was what I am getting at DO you really think I was going to call his mom too at the end of my post I said I was just kidding sorry I'll try to be a little less retarded. Thanks for the hand slap.
uwantme
July 16th, 2003, 12:45 AM
Originally posted by amagic2u
that was what I am getting at DO you really think I was going to call his mom too at the end of my post I said I was just kidding sorry I'll try to be a little less retarded. Thanks for the hand slap.
Hey I dont blame curt for saying what he did.. I have seen the pound perform some pretty lame tricks like this and I wouldnt put it past any of them to do it.
amagic2u
July 16th, 2003, 01:10 AM
ok you got me the pound ? please clue me in Im just a burn victim of ematrixusa and ezexpo maybe I just should not try and be part of any of this. it seems that I offended someone and that is not what Im about sorry and thank you for everything AAQ :confused:
uwantme
July 16th, 2003, 01:23 AM
Originally posted by amagic2u
ok you got me the pound ? please clue me in Im just a burn victim of ematrixusa and ezexpo maybe I just should not try and be part of any of this. it seems that I offended someone and that is not what Im about sorry and thank you for everything AAQ :confused:
Heres a crash course in matrixbonics(this is just a joke, noone flip out)
pound: (n) group of people who act in favor of watchdogs crusade. Hence the dogpound. I just shortened it to pound.
lame tricks: harassing site owners, trying to get people kicked off ebay, reporting sites to payment processors, and other misc. acts that are just unnessacery..
As far you getting burned, Im sorry but I really feel you have no one to blame but yourself.. I have also been burned by ezexpo, threepeople.com, and tymglobal.. But I dont hate matrix sites in fact just the opposite I love them and will soon be starting my own with a new concept behind it. Not all sites are bad. The key is doing your research first. Here are some good things to look for:
1. Do they have good logical Terms and Conditions
2. make sure what they are selling is really worth the price people are paying for it. You have to ask yourself if there was no free gift would I still buy this? If the answer is no then its not really worth the price your buying it for.
3. matrix lists have to stop sometime. This is the big one. Most site can be considered ponzi schemes because their lists are endless. There has to be a stopping point in the list. I know a site that cuts off their lists at 200 people. Then they use profits from their websites to finish cycling all members off the list before they open a new one. This way its not an endless cycle. And it takes away the "chance" of cycle which could make it considered an illegal lottery.
4. Does the site advertise wisely. If they are really selling the e-books or whatever and not the matrix then make sure the site does not focus entirely on the matrix and free gifts. It should be no less than 50-50 about the information about the e-books and free gifts.
6. Do they offer some sort of refund plan. They should definately offer some sort of refund plan whether its only for 24 hours or 30 days. Good Sites will provide members with a refund period.
These are the best pointers I can think of. Also any site which plan on staying in business should have a lawyer on retainer who has reviewed their site, and a business license for the state they operate in.
They should be willing to provide this info to you if you ask and proof of it.. If they cannot its probably not a good bet..
amagic2u
July 16th, 2003, 01:40 AM
i do not hate matrix's as you say .I have not blamed anyone but myself. But when someone is saying one thing and has no intention of doing what they put in tos. words are just words and you can never be sure no matter how far you look up their info.anyway thank you for my crash corse in terms and the meanings of them. I get it now and I wish you luck with your very own matrix AAQ
northstar5757
July 16th, 2003, 08:49 AM
Originally posted by uwantme
Heres a crash course in matrixbonics(this is just a joke, noone flip out)
pound: (n) group of people who act in favor of watchdogs crusade. Hence the dogpound. I just shortened it to pound.
lame tricks: harassing site owners, trying to get people kicked off ebay, reporting sites to payment processors, and other misc. acts that are just unnessacery..
As far you getting burned, Im sorry but I really feel you have no one to blame but yourself.. I have also been burned by ezexpo, threepeople.com, and tymglobal.. But I dont hate matrix sites in fact just the opposite I love them and will soon be starting my own with a new concept behind it. Not all sites are bad. The key is doing your research first. Here are some good things to look for:
Hmmm another example of placing the blame on the costomer. Yet when the owners of these sites get shut down they run straight to watchdog in search of a scapegoat.
How does that fable go again?
poorme
July 16th, 2003, 11:35 AM
Yet when the owners of these sites get shut down they run straight to watchdog in search of a scapegoat.
I agree
The scapegoat has no more milk to be milked.
The scapegoats are preparing for stampede.
poorme
July 16th, 2003, 11:40 AM
How old are you uwantme[B]
[B]Why do you want to know? I really dont see how its your business but I will tell you I graduated long time ago and I have a kid of my own.
I am interested in your web because the cycle is endless.
So it is my business to make sure that I don't deal with the owner who is just a teenager.
poorme
July 16th, 2003, 12:08 PM
As posted in EZ forum, Ematrixusa owner said the fund from Card Service will probably released in the middle of August
uwantme
July 16th, 2003, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by northstar5757
Hmmm another example of placing the blame on the costomer. Yet when the owners of these sites get shut down they run straight to watchdog in search of a scapegoat.
How does that fable go again?
I am not a owner, i am a customer who has beened burned too by 3 different matrix sites(ezexpo, tymglobal, threepeople.com). But im smart enough to realize i knew what I was getting into and there are always bad sites to go with the good. The good sites I have been with have been very very good to me..
uwantme
July 16th, 2003, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by poorme
How old are you uwantme[B]
[B]Why do you want to know? I really dont see how its your business but I will tell you I graduated long time ago and I have a kid of my own.
I am interested in your web because the cycle is endless.
So it is my business to make sure that I don't deal with the owner who is just a teenager.
I think you mean because my site will not have endless lists.
and as I said before I am very well an adult. Just out of curiosity why are you interested in my site besides a list with a cut-off limit? I know your not a matrix supporter. Are you waiting to try to bring my site down or something like that? My site will not be the only like this. In fact I am basing it after another site I am already a member of that already does everything I said mine would do. There are already sites out there taking this route. I think its great and hope more conitinue to follow this pattern.
hurley9192
July 16th, 2003, 05:33 PM
Amagic...here's another definition that was left out...
Matrix Site Owner...scam artist that thinks that running a ponzi scheme and pretending it is legit because they sell something they downloaded off the internet that people really aren't buying anyways and are just looking for a loophole to get into the ponzi scheme.
It's a get rich quick scheme where the matrix community can feed off each other starting new sites, they get on the list early and then a few unsuspecting people come along and helps one of them get a TV for a 10th of the price, then the pay processor shuts down their site and they complain that the people all got ripped off because of the doggz.
uwantme
July 16th, 2003, 05:36 PM
Originally posted by hurley9192
Amagic...here's another definition that was left out...
Matrix Site Owner...scam artist that thinks that running a ponzi scheme and pretending it is legit because they sell something they downloaded off the internet that people really aren't buying anyways and are just looking for a loophole to get into the ponzi scheme.
It's a get rich quick scheme where the matrix community can feed off each other starting new sites, they get on the list early and then a few unsuspecting people come along and helps one of them get a TV for a 10th of the price, then the pay processor shuts down their site and they complain that the people all got ripped off because of the doggz.
This doesnt apply to all sites once again. I will sell body jewelry on my site for less than people woul dpay in the stores where they live. So how would I be ripping people off? Also as you very well know my site has cut off limits on the lists( there goes the ponzi scheme claim), and a refund policy.
I also know other sites that are already set up like mine will be.
Quit blaming everyone for the bad apples out there.
concerned
July 16th, 2003, 05:43 PM
Originally posted by uwantme
This doesnt apply to all sites once again. I will sell body jewelry on my site for less than people woul dpay in the stores where they live. So how would I be ripping people off? Also as you very well know my site has cut off limits on the lists( there goes the ponzi scheme claim), and a refund policy.
I also know other sites that are already set up like mine will be.
Quit blaming everyone for the bad apples out there.
What I still don't understand is that even after all of the negative publicity you are still using the term "Matrix" to describe your site. Your website is not a matrix site. I don't know why you insist on calling it that. It seems very stupid for you to call it a matrix site instead of a "Body jewelery site with a prize promotion". You see how the whole matrix website idea is getting a sour note, yet you still insist on calling your site a matrix site. If you claim that you are selling body jewlery, then just call it a body jewlery site.
hurley9192
July 16th, 2003, 05:44 PM
I am curious, uwantme, how does the list cutoff work?
Also, if you are selling a legitimate product, is your cost of sales percentage that low that you can still make a profit. How are you getting these prizes that you can pretty much give them away?
uwantme
July 16th, 2003, 05:46 PM
Originally posted by concerned
What I still don't understand is that even after you are still using the term "Matrix" to describe your site. Your website is not a matrix site. I don't know why you insist on calling it that. It seems very stupid for you to call it a matrix site instead of a "Body jewelery site with a prize promotion". You see how the whole matrix website idea is getting a sour note, yet you still insist on calling your site a matrix site. If you claim that you are selling body jewlery, then just call it a body jewlery site.
because I dont veiw matrix sites as a bad thing and if I post on here my bidy jewelry site with prize promotion noone would understand what i am talking about and I want newbies and everyone to see that their are sites out there that are taking the "matrix" idea and improving it so its something everyone can live happily with... You know polishing the good apples....
uwantme
July 16th, 2003, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by hurley9192
I am curious, uwantme, how does the list cutoff work?
Also, if you are selling a legitimate product, is your cost of sales percentage that low that you can still make a profit. How are you getting these prizes that you can pretty much give them away?
Here we go again-- how many times have I answered this.. I will go find one of my at least 3 old posts describing this and post it here again for you...
uwantme
July 16th, 2003, 05:51 PM
Originally posted by hurley9192
I am curious, uwantme, how does the list cutoff work?
Also, if you are selling a legitimate product, is your cost of sales percentage that low that you can still make a profit. How are you getting these prizes that you can pretty much give them away?
Heres on of the old posts, I think it pretty much explains it.. Let me know i you need more I have other posts describing it in different ways..
Okay here we go-
Low start-up costs
I have already researched this. I believe I will sell body jewelry-tongue rings, belly rings, labarets, ear rings, etc. I have found a wholesaler and alreadt made a small personal purchase from them to make sure they are an honest business. Doing the math already I can buy enough body jewelry to fill about 500 orders for around $300-$400. Storage- do you know how big body jewelery is? I can store over 3000 pieces of body jewelry in a shoe box. Shipping- 1 trip to the post office every week. Once again the packages are small even if I have 100 orders a week it would still only take 1 trip to the post office and probably about 1 hour there to handle everything. People would still recieve their jewelry in about 2 weeks at the longest depending on when they bought it. Labels and all that stuff might take a full 3-5 hours a week.
I already went through the cost thing but I will do it again. The wholesaler im purchasing from sells to me the same tongue ring you would buy in a shop for $30 for only 15 cents. So even if I sell them for only $20 which is still $10 cheaper than the store and over 100% markup I will make a profit. Minus another $5 for taxes, shipping, and fees and I still have $15 profit. $15 profit times 100 orders in a week eguals $1500. No I dont plan on giving free tvs on my site just things like PS2s, X-boxs, Gameboys, laptops etc... Which once again I have found wholesalers for. I have a wholesaler where I can buy a brand new nice $1200 laptop for only $400. So as you can see I can still afford the free gifts and will still have a profit left over.
You say the only flaw is mathmatics- thats why I wont have endless lists. If I cut each list off at 50 people counting the ones who have already cycled by the time you get to 50 and then cycle the remaining people off using continued purchases of the body jewelry through my site which by this time would have recieved lots of publicity so I should have customers visiting on a regular basis not to mention repeat customers who want more body jewelry. It really should be a problem or take a long time get clean off the lists. I would imagine 6 months at the most and lets be real honest most matrix sites cant touch that. Since we will also offer refunds and excellent custmer service I can imagine having to many unhappy people, and one or two wont really kill you.. I believe there is an estimated 200 million people online, nah I cant see one or two unhappy ones though they will have no reason to be unhappy hurting the business that much..
concerned
July 16th, 2003, 05:56 PM
Originally posted by uwantme
because I dont veiw matrix sites as a bad thing and if I post on here my bidy jewelry site with prize promotion noone would understand what i am talking about and I want newbies and everyone to see that their are sites out there that are taking the "matrix" idea and improving it so its something everyone can live happily with... You know polishing the good apples....
You may not think that matrix sitas are bad, but there are probably 100 times as many people who think they are. What you are basically saying is that you are willing to lose customers because of bad marketing. Ultimately, it doesn't matter what you think, it matters what your customers think. Without customers, no matter how great of an idea you have, you will have to shut down also. You should be thinking about building a customer base instead of defending a bunch of scam artists.
BTW, I have never said that ALL are scam artists, but the majority of matrix sites are run by scam artists. If they weren't scam artists, then on most sites they would also put a phone number and address for their contact information. Most businesses still need to have personal contact.
hurley9192
July 16th, 2003, 06:09 PM
so, it seems like you really aren't running a matrix site, just a site online that will give a free gift to the first "x number" of people that purchase on your site.
The ways that you guys are getting around not being ponzi schemes and actual matrix sites is by running a legit business, which is good.
I really don't lump your site into the matrix site world because yours is based off selling something legitimate. The true matrix world is just a large ponzi scheme.
uwantme
July 16th, 2003, 06:19 PM
Originally posted by concerned
You may not think that matrix sitas are bad, but there are probably 100 times as many people who think they are. What you are basically saying is that you are willing to lose customers because of bad marketing. Ultimately, it doesn't matter what you think, it matters what your customers think. Without customers, no matter how great of an idea you have, you will have to shut down also. You should be thinking about building a customer base instead of defending a bunch of scam artists.
BTW, I have never said that ALL are scam artists, but the majority of matrix sites are run by scam artists. If they weren't scam artists, then on most sites they would also put a phone number and address for their contact information. Most businesses still need to have personal contact.
When I talk about my site on this board I use the term matrix so people can see and understand that they are all not bad. PLus other site owners can see there is a better way to do things, that is right.
When I actually get my site up and advertise to the world I will not refer to it as a matrix site. Also I am not defending a bunch of scam artist. It you read through my posts you will see where i piont out bad sites, where I say what I think other sites are doing wrong, where basically I dont always defend the matrix sites.. In whole though they havent been proven or ruled illegal and this is what I defend. That and the fact like I said before if you guys would just focus and go after the bad sites I wouldnt have anything really bad to say about you, But its the fact you target and seek to destroy all matrix sites the good and the bad. Thats why I get invovled and defend the good ones that are out there and dont deserve the abuse many of you give them....
uwantme
July 16th, 2003, 06:21 PM
Originally posted by hurley9192
so, it seems like you really aren't running a matrix site, just a site online that will give a free gift to the first "x number" of people that purchase on your site.
The ways that you guys are getting around not being ponzi schemes and actual matrix sites is by running a legit business, which is good.
I really don't lump your site into the matrix site world because yours is based off selling something legitimate. The true matrix world is just a large ponzi scheme.
Thanks, and the reason why I am here is to spread the world through the entire matrix community and hopefully site members will see there are better sites out there and site owners will see there is a better way to run there sites where they can still make profit.
concerned
July 16th, 2003, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by uwantme
When I talk about my site on this board I use the term matrix so people can see and understand that they are all not bad. PLus other site owners can see there is a better way to do things, that is right.
When I actually get my site up and advertise to the world I will not refer to it as a matrix site. Also I am not defending a bunch of scam artist. It you read through my posts you will see where i piont out bad sites, where I say what I think other sites are doing wrong, where basically I dont always defend the matrix sites.. In whole though they havent been proven or ruled illegal and this is what I defend. That and the fact like I said before if you guys would just focus and go after the bad sites I wouldnt have anything really bad to say about you, But its the fact you target and seek to destroy all matrix sites the good and the bad. Thats why I get invovled and defend the good ones that are out there and dont deserve the abuse many of you give them....
That's fine, and I think you have a right to your opinion. I am not trying to target anybody specifically. I am against the whole idea of a matrix because a matrix does not benefit everybody that joins. I don't think it matters if someone is trying to do the right thing or not, because I think that the "Matrix Idea" itself if very dishonest and misleading, and anybody who is supporting such an idea, in which people are being mislead are conducting themselves in a very unethical mannor.
timerz168
July 16th, 2003, 08:17 PM
lol, last I checked, this thread was about checking out the owner of ematrixusa's personal webpage and his pics, what are we talkin about now? hehe =P
uwantme
July 17th, 2003, 02:34 AM
Originally posted by concerned
That's fine, and I think you have a right to your opinion. I am not trying to target anybody specifically. I am against the whole idea of a matrix because a matrix does not benefit everybody that joins. I don't think it matters if someone is trying to do the right thing or not, because I think that the "Matrix Idea" itself if very dishonest and misleading, and anybody who is supporting such an idea, in which people are being mislead are conducting themselves in a very unethical mannor.
Once again that is just your opinion just like it is just my opinion they are not all bad Just because you feel it is unethical or that people are acting that way doesnt mean they are.. You know what they say about opinions........
If you dont want others to push their opinions on you dont push your opinions on them.
hurley9192
July 17th, 2003, 09:30 AM
uwantme...you totally missed my point though, you are NOT a matrix site because you just run the list for a little while.
So, when we say that matrix site owners are not good people, we are talking about the ACTUAL matrix site owners, not someone selling goods and giving away gifts to the first X number of people.
A matrix site is still bad because it is a flat out ponzi scheme. You are like a prostitute that went out and got a boyfriend and stopped being a prostitute. You are not doing anything wrong, but still want to call yourself a prostitute.
Your site is legit, I don't know why you want to call yourself a matrix and associate with ponzi schemes.
uwantme
July 17th, 2003, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by hurley9192
uwantme...you totally missed my point though, you are NOT a matrix site because you just run the list for a little while.
So, when we say that matrix site owners are not good people, we are talking about the ACTUAL matrix site owners, not someone selling goods and giving away gifts to the first X number of people.
A matrix site is still bad because it is a flat out ponzi scheme. You are like a prostitute that went out and got a boyfriend and stopped being a prostitute. You are not doing anything wrong, but still want to call yourself a prostitute.
Your site is legit, I don't know why you want to call yourself a matrix and associate with ponzi schemes.
Oh but come on, do I really have to stop being a prostitute too? I made so much money.... and my boyfriend dont mind...J/k...LOL a little to lighten everyone up.
I said this in another post, but when I advettise my site to the world once it is up I will not advettise it as a matrix at all. I only talk about it in terms of a matrix on sites like these so members can see that there are sites trying to improve out there and so other matrix owners can see there is a better way to run a matrix that they xan still make profit and everyone is happy with.
aliengti
July 17th, 2003, 10:43 PM
I joined the PS2 25 list on ematrixusa about 6 months ago. I never cycled and now the site has been taken down. What do I do in order to get my money back? I payed through ginix.
A little help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks :)
timerz168
July 18th, 2003, 12:12 AM
just go on the ginix website and request a refund, put in your transaction # you were emailed awhile ago and your info and you should get it within a few days. I got mine 2 days after I emailed just last week! =)
aliengti
July 18th, 2003, 07:49 AM
Thanks very much I will contact ginix. I appreciate the help :)
poorme
July 24th, 2003, 12:41 PM
The site is up again. This guy is persistent.
Many names in the lists will be changed to "helper" due to the charge backs.
MatrixWatch
August 24th, 2003, 11:51 PM
It looks like ematrixusa.com is now taking orders via Pay Request to keep their lists moving. Meanwhile, it seems like CSI did not release the $20,000 or so dollars to them either. Here is what they say on their site:
From: www.ematrixusa.com
Called CSI on payments today! All we got was voicemail, left numerous voicemails and hope to hear back from them tomorrow on the status. Just to warn everyone, we did receive about $3,000 in chargeback's through this account from various people who we can not mention.
Their update from August 22nd does not inspire much more hope either:
From: www.ematrixusa.com
8-22-03 Well as you may have all experienced and noticed, this past month and a little more was complete help. To start off Ginix froze funds, holding almost all the funds we collected on the site in the 2 batches that are being held. To top it off the server my site was on got severely hacked and brought down my site along with about 5,000 other sites. It's a lot different now when a matrix site is down because the first image people get is that we ran with their funds. To let everyone know, WE DID NOT RUN, we are still hear to serve and to get your electronics at 80% of retail price! Thing about being a matrix site and having a site that isn't functional doesn't help, because in that weeks time when the site was down we were overloaded with feedbacks. We will work this out and we would like to start a new advertising campaign so if anyone has any ideas, please feel free to let us know. We will solely collect PayRequest and Money Order by request. Thanks for everyone's time.
MatrixWatch
August 31st, 2003, 01:32 PM
Looks like things can't go any better at ematrixusa. Check out this new message on their site:
[quote] From: www.ematrixusa.com
Bandwidth Limit Exceeded
The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to the site owner reaching his/her bandwidth limit. Please try again later.
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Apache/1.3.28 Server at www.ematrixusa.com Port 80
Isn't this like.. the THIRD time this guy has had "server"
poorme
August 31st, 2003, 07:25 PM
Actually Timerz168 already mentioned about this.
I need to remind his customers again.
This is post in the site
Hey, My name is Jake. I am 18 years old. I live in central Minnesota. I attend Holdingford High School and plan to attend Saint Cloud Technical College after I graduate. I enjoy hanging out with friends, partying, snowmobiling, driving my dirt bike, fishing, hunting, working on websites. For a living right now I milk cows. Not to bad of a job, gets what I need paid for and if it does that I think its an alright job.
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