The token crumb--YMAuctions.com

[surfer]

In order to continue to string the people along,
YMMSS is proud to present.......................

YMAuctions.com (http://www.ymauctions.com/)

This magnificent new income stream has been
under development for many weeks now.

The time and effort placed into creating this
awesome site is simply hard to fathom.

I think I might really be starting to believe Kim
can pull it off.

Hhhhhheeeeeeyyyyyyyyyy, wait a minute.

Certainly, we haven't been waiting all these
weeks for something that is merely a point and
click add on script included with most CPanel
accounts.

Please say it ain't so.

Well, I guess Kim had to throw them another
bone sometime. And he had to make it something
they could actually see.

As usual, some are simply drooling over Kim's
stellar vision and greatness.

What none of them seem to grasp is that in
order to just maintain cycle times
at 195 days for the rest of the year, the
commission's paid stats will need to finish
out the year at about $260 Million or an
average of roughly $22 million each month
for the rest of the year.

These little things just won't cut it.

Oh well. :head:

[Salsa]

I applaud YMAuctions because I think it is Kim's first major mistake in the YMMSS scam. I would have expected him to stall and stall and stall on making "outside revenue streams" explicit. But here is something (YMAuctions) that is immediately doomed to failure. Heck, surfer, you are being generous if you think this auction site is a "little thing." It's much less than that.

What kind of idiot would launch an auction site without first committing at least a few sellers to the site?! How many hours has it been up, and there is still only the one, initial, item for sale? We all know that all YMMSS members have stuff to sell because the only product that they buy from YMMSS is advertising! With 20,000+ members, couldn't Kim, before now, have found at least one member to add SOMETHING to the auction site?

Stupid, Kim. Stupid.

[Arzel]

I applaud YMAuctions because I think it is Kim's first major mistake in the YMMSS scam. I would have expected him to stall and stall and stall on making "outside revenue streams" explicit. But here is something (YMAuctions) that is immediately doomed to failure. Heck, surfer, you are being generous if you think this auction site is a "little thing." It's much less than that.

What kind of idiot would launch an auction site without first committing at least a few sellers to the site?! How many hours has it been up, and there is still only the one, initial, item for sale? We all know that all YMMSS members have stuff to sell because the only product that they buy from YMMSS is advertising! With 20,000+ members, couldn't Kim, before now, have found at least one member to add SOMETHING to the auction site?

Stupid, Kim. Stupid.

Excellent point! Additionally the aution page is a generic auction form that most anyone could set up. Yes, not very smart at all.

[surfer]

Now Salsa, you have to give the members
time to figure out the site, buy their credits,
and come up with stuff to sell.

At least it's something new to look at. :)

Only a few more days until the new servers
are up and just another week or two until
the first outside income streams start
pouring in.

Kim's first mistake was making a 90 day
guarantee. A legal team worth more than
a nickel would have told him making a
promise like that is illegal.

Of course, he's making a ton while his
poor subjects cash in IRA's, take second
mortgages, max out credit cards, etc.,
placing their entire futures on his word
and nothing else.

If they had only bought a calculator first
and figured out the numbers

[Salsa]

Arzel, yes. The auction site is a pretty much off the shelf package, taking no more than a few minutes for any Web developer to set up. But how many millions did Kim invest in it?

Sorry, surfer, but I must respectfully disagree. It's true that guaranteeing 90 day cycle times was dishonest but it wasn't a mistake in regard to Kim's ends. As we've seen, that "guarantee" has enabled Kim to soothe (take money from) many people for months on end. And even though cycle times are now 195 days, most true believers actually believe that cycle times will somehow diminish to 90 days simply because Kim guaranteed it! Not a mistake at all. Bravo Kim!

The brilliance of YMMSS is not that it is merely some advanced variation on a Ponzi scheme but that it is a fairly simple Ponzi supported by an advanced affinity con. That's why I think the auction site is Kim's first MAJOR mistake: it will quickly undermine the affinity con, which will then undo the entire scam. ...I hope.

If they had only bought a calculator first and figured out the numbers
Calculator? What's a calculator? I'm only here because a couple of months ago my brother-in-law started badgering my wife to "join" YMMSS. (He still is.) His best argument has been, "Don't think about it, just do it!" (No calculators needed.)

Oh yes. He also owns several (not too successful) GNC stores, so I'd expect to see a bottle of vitamins up for auction, soon. Get 'em while you can!

I wish you well,
Salsa

PS There are now five auctions!

PPS If YMMSS means Your Money Machine Success System, does YMAuctions mean Your Money Auctions?

[surfer]

Just surfing through some of the recent diversions
Kim has used to distract people from the problems
of a failing ponzi.

Here we have YMAuctions with close to 2000
primarily disinterested people registered with
a whopping 62 active auctions, only 4 or them
with bids, 2 of those for EPCs(less than 2 cents
per EPC for one and a whopping 11 1/2 cents
per EPC on the other).

Supposedly, you can now pay your listing fees with
a credit card, but the help section still says you
can only fund with StormPay or IntGold.

At least it's a good place to pick up EPCs cheap
for those few YMMSS members like happy who
actually have some success with their ads.

If YMMSS had any serious intentions of making
a go of the auction site, they should at least
have the help section accurate.

They would have also launched an advertising
campaign and run some promotions to generate
some activity. Perhaps YMMSS doesn't know
what advertising really is. ;)

But we all know it was merely a diversionary
tactic.

Okay, I'm done reminiscing in this thread. lol

[Dreamer]

Now that there isnt going to be such a thing as EPCs (ok, they'll still exist, but not as today), what will people sell on ymauctions?

[Salsa]

Yes, the YMMSS Auctions (http://www.ymauctions.com/index.php?) site is an ongoing comedy. Poor folks like wesworcester seem to be listing their items purely out of some sense of duty and determination to (somehow) make it work--listing and listing and relisting items while selling practically nothing. I don't think any of his auctions have ever gotten more than one bid. What kind of auction is that?! They aren't auctions. They are sympathy purchases.

It appears that he may have now run out of steam, however, and lindadutt is taking over for him. If not for the auctions they listed in the last day, the auction count would now be down in the thirties, the lowest it's been since the site's third or fourth day online.

Wes and Linda, I feel for you, but give it up. You can't do it alone. You need some support. Most especially, YMAuctions would need an advertising company to promote it, but there is no advertising company in sight to help you.

Personally, I love YM Auctions because it's such a grand example of YMMSS's total ineptitude at running a legitimate business--from programming to marketing. Regarding programming, here's an out of the box auction program that takes only a few minutes to set up, and yet YMMSS's "elite" programmers have managed to butcher it and appear to have no clue how to fix things. For instance, check out a seller's feedback page. The date is still formatted like "50/71/.200". :eek: What programmer can't figure out what's wrong here? It is useful information, however: It's one more guide to anyone with the tiniest bit of Web savvy to steer clear of YMMSS.

As for marketing, if this "new" Mike Hamilton fellow had a whit of marketing sense, I think he would have insisted on immediately taking down image crushers like the YM auction site and the YMMSS Advertisers Directory (http://www.ymdirectory.com/)--which would be even more damaging than the auction site if there were any reason for anybody to ever go there--except to roll their eyes. :rolleyes:

YMMSS an advertising company? Why on earth would anybody think that anyone at YMMSS knows anything about advertising after watching the utterly inept launchings of the auction and directory sites?

For making the anti-YMMSS case, however, I applaud them! :applause: :applause: :applause:

Salsa
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[Salsa]

And then there were none.

Finally, the auction count has reached zero.

Remember that the great visionaries at YMMSS once imagined and promoted the idea to affiliates that YMAuctions would someday rival eBay.

That's important to remember because now, when those "visionaries" promote the idea that STA will become an Internet force to rival Google and other giants, you can ask, "The same way that YMAuctions rivaled eBay?"

The only honest answer is, "YES! STA will end up as the same, big, fat zero that YMAuctions has."

How can I be so sure? Because the administration at YMMSS/STA has proven time and again that it has zero aptitude for operating a legitimate business.

Plus, they have no interest in running a legitimate business. To them, these "businesses" are merely veils of legitimacy that are concocted to scam more money from more victims. Stop them (http://matrixwatch.org/forums/showthread.php?t=2969).

Salsa
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[surfer]

Only eight months after launch, these are
fantastic results Salsa. ;)

You know it's bad when you have affiliates
begging Kim to pull the auction site from the
net. :p

We knew that YMAuctions was simply a
diversion from the very beginning.

Kim Inman had no intentions of even
attempting to promote and build up the
auction "business".

It was simply one more distraction in an
ever growing line of distractions to keep
affiliates minds off of the hype and lies
they were sold.

One would think that a revolutionary
"advertising" business would have been
able to market this site just a tad better.

lol :head: :nono: :eek:

As Salsa suggested, start your pursuit
of justice today (http://www.matrixwatch.org/modules.php?name=Content&file=viewarticle&id=10).

[surfer]

:applause: :applause: :applause: lol lol lol

Salsa, it looks like they have finally put
the abysmal cookie-cutter auction site
out of its misery for now. ;)

It seems to be redirecting to the "retail"
site.

Such a shame to see Dave Summitt's
immense amount of work :rolleyes: turn out
so terribly.

If you remember, he heroically fought
through disease to get it launched. :applause: lol

This is further proof that they had
absolutely no game plan for making
the auction site a success.

It was merely a distraction to appease
disgruntled affiliates back when cycle
times were only around 200 days.

[Truth]

DELETE

[Dreamer]

I think matrixwatch has been disproven again, if you will.

http://www.moneymakergroup.com/index.php?showtopic=11332

In my opinion the YM Auction site is going to bring in alot of money for the commissions payable account. This should show the critics out there, that YMMSS is not going anywhere and will be hear for generations to come. This should also give the membership a boost in a positive direction now that things are being implemented. We can see that things are happening and the business is healthy. If a business was going down, they sure wouldn't be putting new sites. As the cycle times fall back to our 60 to 90 days, people will see that nothing compares. The next big features to watch for is the site being up 24/7, which should happen by the end of next week, the new payment system, and the new retail site. Kim has always delivered and this should show that.

A few replies later:

As I have said before, I am not going to argue. I'm not going to make another prediction based on the information I have, because if its wrong you will say something else negative. If the cycle time was to go to 365 days, I don't care. If you purchase a position every day, you will get paid everyday over time. The main thing that matters is YMMSS isn't going anywhere. No matter what anyone says or believes, YMMSS is not a doubler. We are an advertising business and that will be known even more with the new retail site. I guess when that comes up, you will say its another feature to fool everyone. I do believe the cycle times will go back to 60 to 90 day, but it will take some time. I am happy for you that you are about to receive your commission. After you receive twice the amount of money you put into the business, then you can go telll everyone how you quit a business that you made money with.

Slighly amusing response a few respsonses later

truth hurst don't it?

If the cycle times ever get back around 90 days I will be the first to say I was wrong,bet I never get to say that :(

And finally

I still buy 2 positions a day. We'll talk again when they pay me $320 x 2 x MANY!

I LOVE KIM!

They havent talked since...