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ycchen
July 5th, 2005, 06:38 AM
Gary Harvey, a big promoter and recruiter of YMMSS.

I can't tell if he is really making money or reinvest all his money back into the system. Can anyone help me with his figures?

http://fulltimeincomefromparttimework.com/commissions-received-gary.html

Please kindly explain the following sentence:

"Total earned in our first year... US$44,558.40"

Dreamer
July 5th, 2005, 06:45 AM
When I found YMMSS, I did a very thorough due diligence process. I studied every page I could find at the site, including the testimonials. I sent emails to a handful of people who had written testimonials.

Do people really think that is all it takes to learn about a business, or whatever, by reading what they want you to read and nothing else? Testimonals? Even on eBay i would rather read the negative feedback than the positives.

Shoes
July 5th, 2005, 08:46 AM
I see you.

surfer
July 15th, 2005, 12:39 AM
LOL, I actually skipped right over this post the
first time. :)

The total commissions he gives are the gross
amount earned.

So we had a series of irregular spends (which over the entire first year totalled to around $20,000). There were also some periods when I bought one $10 position each day, but these have not yet paid us. I also bought a few positions at other values, such as $40, $80 and $160... which was just to use some spare funds in StormPay, for example.

So he had about $20K out of pocket and netted
over $24K.

As mentioned in another post, he's not too
thrilled about the 3% commission being cut out.
He's brought in a lot of people and markets
his services to YMMSS affiliates, including an
ebook on recruiting that won't be such a great
seller now. :weep:

ycchen
July 15th, 2005, 04:38 AM
So he had about $20K out of pocket and netted over $24K.

$24K net profit for a whole year effort, not too impressive. I thought a super promoter like himself would make 100K by now. Do you think he reinvest $24K back to the ponzi?

I wonder if super recruiter like Gary Harvey is reponsible for the YMMSS scam?

surfer
July 15th, 2005, 07:47 AM
If you just based it on the reading requirement,
that's over $900/hour. Not too shabby.

Like every other YMMSS member though, he's
taken a huge pay cut.

He made most of his profit in the last quarter,
earning over $20K

He should have been at over $40K this year
so far, but has most likely earned somewhere
around $10K.

It's impossible to tell what he invested back.

He carries a good part of the burden for certain.
With around 300 recruited, he's helped carry the
ponzi along.

And here's a 66 year old guy that grossed about
$30K from YMMSS and another $11K from
Empowerism. http://bengonzales2.com/page16.html