View Full Version : Servers
swishnev
July 7th, 2005, 12:00 PM
Any word on the servers and why they aren't up yet?? It's only been like 6 months right?
surfer
July 7th, 2005, 12:29 PM
lol
They are blaming it on Microsoft issues.
They've had the hardware for a long time
and I believe it was towards the end of
May that AT&T reportedly finished their
end of things.
Several weeks of testing before the
"attempt" to go live and this multimillion
dollar company still can't get things to
work right.
It's such a common theme among almost
every single one of these schemes.
swishnev
July 7th, 2005, 12:30 PM
i would think that if ymmss is having such a tough time getting these servers going that they might have to look at going forward with legal action against the companies that were supposedly helping them install these new servers?
concerned
July 7th, 2005, 12:38 PM
They aren't having a rough time. They are using it as an excuse.
surfer
July 7th, 2005, 12:47 PM
Let's see.
First, they supposedly run into a problem
with the routers only providing 1/4 of the
bandwidth that the service provider is
providing.
Then there was supposedly a corrupted db.
Now, they are blaming things on Microsoft
bugs. :rolleyes:
They have been dragging this out since the
original "launch" announcement on June 13.
I may have even missed an excuse or twelve. ;)
There is no one at fault but YMMSS. As concerned
stated, it's just some more excuses to add to the
growing laundry list.
Dreamer
July 7th, 2005, 02:43 PM
No, not ymmss's fault. Kimmy talked to microsoft guru s and even called microsoft himself, of at least somebody did.
Except I'm not quite sure what a software company would be to blame for hardware issues. And, why arent they using unix, why windows?
swishnev
July 7th, 2005, 02:52 PM
i'm guessing ymmss did hire someone to take care of the servers? when the servers weren't put in correctly it became ymmss' fault for not hiring the right people to get the job done. they have been talking about these servers since january, along with a debit card that never came. how you can not blame ymmss for this is curious to me
Gringo
July 7th, 2005, 08:13 PM
That's the good and bad of going offshore. Good is protection from U.S. authorities. Bad is crappy infrastructure. On the other hand, if you want to stall, it's a great thing.
Me again
July 7th, 2005, 08:58 PM
More rubbish
jokach
July 7th, 2005, 09:31 PM
Ultimately, the server migration project belonged to YMMSS, whether they contracted it or not, they still have the responsibility of making sure it got done (would you hire someone to build you a house, but never check on them to make sure it was getting done?)
Its apparent they are making excuses, and since our profiting friends at YMMSS can't give an explanation as to why it never happened, what else are we to think? If its "rubbish", then explain why its rubbish and give the real reason why it didn't get done ......
jokach
Dreamer
July 8th, 2005, 05:18 AM
Heck, even if you dont have the real reason, at least post an opinion...or are you completely void of any of it?
Mat_Watcher
July 10th, 2005, 06:44 AM
No, not ymmss's fault. Kimmy talked to microsoft guru s and even called microsoft himself, of at least somebody did.
Except I'm not quite sure what a software company would be to blame for hardware issues. And, why arent they using unix, why windows?
Seems that the secure features of the software used are not unix compatible.
Rewriting the software is not doable and the windows security (of having problems lol ) is not comparable to unix result.
I'm not sure of this,but I read it somewhere on security related Forums.
Also setting the new servers is the priority.
Nothing will be added or implemented unless servers are working properly.
This why the servers are so important,not just for the servers quality itself,but for the priority they have on scheduled works.
Many Thanks
Arzel
July 17th, 2005, 02:21 PM
Anyone watching the news lately has heard that Hurricane Emily is headed toward the Yucatan Peninsula. I am particularly interested because the resort I stayed at earlier this summer is in the direct path (Mayan Rivera, just south of Cucan and west of the southern tip of Cozumel). The strength of this hurricane is sure to cause some structural damage to the area, so I am saddened to think the place I just visited could be severely damaged, and that people I met could be in danger of their livlihood.
This also brings another thought to mind. Why would YMMSS base its severs on a beach resort of the coast of Belize, a country within direct paths of Hurricanes every year? Although Belieze appears it will escape any serious damage in the wake of Emily, this does not seem like a good decision on the part of YMMSS. A future hurricane or tropical storm could cause severe damage to YMMSS at a much higher probibility than most places.
plc_f
July 17th, 2005, 05:02 PM
Arzel
It is true that YMMSS did have one server prior to the 'new' servers going up [and down and up and down...] That was based in Panama.
However, since AT&T took over and 'finished' the job, no servers are based off shore. In fact they are all based thus...
ymmss.com is just outside of Washington DC
ymmss.org is just outside of Philadelphia
ymmss.net is at St Petersburg, outside of Orlando.
Anyone familiar with NeoTrace can verify this in a matter of moments.
Is this significant? Maybe - It means that all servers [all online business with YMMSS] is now conducted within the USA and not off-shore as claimed by them.
Darius
July 17th, 2005, 07:15 PM
What servers you use have nothing to do with what country your company is based. What piffle!
I suppose if I used a server in Poland, which I could, I should start paying Polish Income Tax?
D
Arzel
July 17th, 2005, 09:34 PM
Thanks for the info PLC F, I guess I was wrong about the servers being based in Belieze. I thought that was one of the reasons Kim has had to make so many trips there, but I guess I was mistaken.
Gringo
July 17th, 2005, 09:49 PM
Is this significant? Maybe - It means that all servers [all online business with YMMSS] is now conducted within the USA and not off-shore as claimed by them.
I think it could be significant. There now may be some action that the US authorities can take to shut him down. Of course now he has lowered his profile somewhat as a target for operating a ponzi with the new business model. Also nothing would stop him from moving the servers offshore again.
Salsa
July 30th, 2005, 12:26 PM
Thanks for the info PLC F, I guess I was wrong about the servers being based in Belieze. I thought that was one of the reasons Kim has had to make so many trips there, but I guess I was mistaken.Arzel, I had the same impression. I think that we may have gotten at least part of that impression from this Bocotora post (http://matrixwatch.org/forums/showthread.php?p=23159#post23159):
Ive been following the postings for about 2 or 3 months. Ive been dieing to post some info but had some problems with registering. Anyway all solved.
Im on the ground in Belize.
If you look at the pictures, of the resort you notice a three story cream and brown building & maybe a couple of sat dishes on the roof. Top floor to be for Servers. { same story since last year]
The good news. If he is busted in US court Belize will hand him over in about 2 seconds. Look for a Gibson from Indiana who scamed a whole bunch of people out their court settlements in class action lawsuits. And he was a lawyer.
Local banks refuse to do business with him. Wont take his money as he wont say how he makes it.
Lets hope someone puts him out of business soon.
surfer
July 30th, 2005, 12:55 PM
One of the many bogus things that were stated
in the YMForums was an argument from a member
named mjgroup.
He kept going on and on about the impact that
"date arithmetic" would have when the new
servers were up and running with processing
going on 5 days/week.
Among his ridiculous claims were that the current
processing of only 3 days a week was responsible
for a 4 day rise each week in cycle time.
If his date arithmetic theory had any merit at
all, you'd think Kim would be pushing hard to
get the servers processing 5 days/week while
gearing up for the new pay system.
According to mjgroup, that alone would prevent
2 days of rising cycle times each week. :rolleyes:
I don't know if he's a heavy recruiter for YMMSS
or not, but his site is located at www.inmarcgroup.com
The really scary part is that much of his stuff is
targeted at senior citizens.
plc_f
July 30th, 2005, 03:52 PM
LATEST INFORMATION AS OF 2005-07-30 |19:10
Tech e-mail is interesting...no?
Personal info removed by moderator
plc-f
mercinary
July 30th, 2005, 08:40 PM
plc_f:
FYI: For legal reasons, we (Matrixwatch) cannot allow person info of any kind to be posted. If anyone would like the personal information that has been removed, you may contact an administrator/moderator or plc_f. The information may be passed along privately.
-Merc
plc_f
July 31st, 2005, 06:30 AM
mewrcinary,
Many thanks for your response...
Apologies...didn't realize that some info contained in my post was 'sensitive'..:) and thanks again for removing it.
plc_f
Dreamer
August 19th, 2005, 07:06 PM
Originally Posted by Gringo
That's the good and bad of going offshore. Good is protection from U.S. Authorities. Bad is crappy infrastructure. On the other hand, if you want to stall, it's a great thing.
This was planned from the beginning. A certain person associated with the new website told a certain affiliate (names not revealed to protect the innocent) that the reason for the servers being put in Panama was so that the U.S. Government could never shut the website down. Nobody come on here and call me a liar. I am not a liar. I know what I heard with my own ears.
Originally Posted by plc_f
Arzel
....no servers are based offshore.....
ymmss.com is just outside of Washington D.C.
ymmss.org is just outside of Philadelphia
ymmss.net is at St Petersburg, outside of Orlando
Anyone familiar with NeoTrace can verify this in a matter of moments.
This is very interesting. For days the forums at certain other places were filled with discussions adnaseum about the servers. Then "all of a sudden" the discussions stopped. It was NEVER mentioned in the forums in certain other places that the new servers are no longer in Panama. Maybe there still is one in Panama, for "back-up" just in case the U.S. government decides to disconnect internet services to certain websites. But who really knows, with all the lies.
Originally Posted by Salsa
...Originally posted by Bocotora (Bocotora post Local Banks refuse to do business with him.......
Local Banks meaning banks in Belize? I suggest you read the above quote at least 57 times, and read between the lines.
This forum is all about truth. Right? I have been watching a certain other forum and every time someone gets kicked out or silenced, everybody is all happy because the negativity has stopped (for a while) then some poor slob comes along, like today, and voices a concern about his epc's being worthless in the future. Of course everybody rushes in to calm him down. Then, in a few days, others start voicing "negativity , worry, and concern, and then it's just a matter of time, and they will be silenced.
There were other groups in the past who did this. It was called the Dark Ages. Christians were burned at the stake and tortured because they would not shut up. The Waldenses hid out in the mountains for 1,000 years. The Masons tore pages out of the Bible and cemented them behind bricks to preserve the Bible when the Bibles were being burned and the common people were not allowed to have one. Well guess what - Christianity is alive - maybe not well, but it is alive today.and they won't shut up. They still talk about Jesus. Guess what - the Bible is now the most widely published, best selling book on earth.
Then of course there was a certain gentleman who tried to exterminate a whole race of people during world war II, and tried to make them shut up. Guess what - it didnt work. That race of people is still alive - maybe not well, but still alive and fluorishing, and they won't shut up.
Then of course there was this other "gentleman" over in an eastern country who - in the VERY RECENT past cut out peoples tongues because they would not shut up, or would not say the "correct" words. Well, I guess we don't know how that situation is progessing yet. It doesn't seem that many people from that country are willing to talk "yet".
CONCERNED: I Love the signature under your name. I would like to quote it here because it says what I am trying to express: The voice of intelligence...is drowned out by the roar of fear. It is ignored by the voice of desire. It is contradicted by the voice of shame. It is biased by hate and extinguished by anger. Most of all it is silenced by ignorance. --Dr. Karl Menninger.
The other forum I have seen is not all that bad - for those of you who have not seen it. There are people there who are very kind, polite, caring, empathetic, and respectful. However, I have seen people run over by bulldozers over there and buried alive because they were not saying the "correct" things. Not pretty.
vBulletin® v3.6.12, Copyright ©2000-2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.