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swishnev
July 11th, 2005, 02:21 PM
I read all over this forum about the "new ymmss" and what its all about. now i'm back to my original question, any word on the servers??? i can't believe that there aren't any answers for this question.....did they just forget about them, do they exist, have they ever existed???

surfer
July 11th, 2005, 02:27 PM
Actually swishnev, processing was performed today
while the site remained up.

People were still able to read their ads and purchase
EPCs if they were so inclined.

There were a couple functions that could not be
accessed during processing. Those would be admin
type functions like changing you payment methods
or options.

swishnev
July 11th, 2005, 03:00 PM
very cool, i guess we'll have to wait until tomorrow to find out if they are going to process everyday now.

swishnev
July 11th, 2005, 03:01 PM
oh, any word on how much they processed and the ct's now?

surfer
July 11th, 2005, 03:22 PM
Cycle time is now 260 days and the amount
processed today was $51,635.80 or just a
little over $17K/day. Not quite enough to
cover October 24 which was over $400K. :rolleyes:

ComplexKid
July 11th, 2005, 03:22 PM
Not sure but unless I am very mistaken, last time I ran a trace the servers were still US-based. As in, they didn't move.

Anybody want to double check?

Arzel
July 11th, 2005, 04:51 PM
Does anyone else find it ironic that the "new" YMMSS plan was announced before, or just as, the new servers are apparently working full time? The new servers were supposed to help bring down cycle times, but Kim and co didn't even wait to see if they would make a difference, after all these months of saying how they would.

No big surprise to me, since most of us knew that the new servers wouldn't really make a difference anyway, and now they have something else to talk about.

In any case the next couple of processes should really indicate what kind of reaction the new plan gets.

swishnev
July 11th, 2005, 04:54 PM
so whats the reaction to the "new ymmss" on the ym forums at this point?

surfer
July 11th, 2005, 05:08 PM
Yeah, it is a bit ironic that the business model
that was designed to last for generations gets
dumped right when the catalyst to all these
great things finally is up and running.

As for the reaction on the YMForums.

There is a major spike in activity for certain.

A lot of confusion.
Some anger.
Some fear.
Some disappointment.
Some heated exchanges.
Some rah-rah stuff.
A lot of speculation, both positive and negative.

Most were too busy trying to figure out the
new plan to even notice that the site stayed
up during processing. lol

You can tell the true followers.

Last week they were saying how things were
looking rosey for the future and that everything
will turn around.

Now, they are quick to point out how long it
would have taken everyone to cycle under the
old system and that the new system is so much
better.

The saddest part is reading about those who
were foolish enough to purchase using credit
cards or loans and are coming to the realization
that they will never cycle to get their initial
cash back.

Instead, they have to take however many
pennies per week Kim Inman can drum up.

swishnev
July 11th, 2005, 05:18 PM
so are the mods working overtime deleting posts and threads now too? they had to see this coming from a mile away. they should just shut down those forums.

surfer
July 11th, 2005, 05:40 PM
They've been pretty lenient from what I've
seen so far. Perhaps a bit overwhelmed as
well since they apparently weren't aware
of this coming change either.

Mat_Watcher
July 11th, 2005, 07:50 PM
The new servers were supposed to help bring down cycle times, but Kim and co didn't even wait to see if they would make a difference, after all these months of saying how they would.

No big surprise to me, since most of us knew that the new servers wouldn't really make a difference anyway, and now they have something else to talk about.


The only reason I can remember about servers help for cycle times is the increase to 5 processing days/week against the 3 days/week of when new webiste was introduced.
As the 3 days/week brought an increase of cycle time of at least 1day/week just following calendar days,and this was said on Jan,
the 5days/week have should reduced by 1 or 2 days/week just following calendar days.

The missed point from many of us was that the servers had the priority on all things.
Once servers are up (these days) ,others things on work are being developed,as the Ct time solution from redisigned system.

The YMMSS business model was not changed.
Only the payplan.
It still include the concept of building a strong group to attract advertisers and new services providers to benefit from as alternate income sources.

Sharing good part of the profits from the incoming advertising business with all affiliates in the same way for everyone is the main concept that none of the similar business never done before.

The way affiliates ,and admin,are paid is changed,I think in a better method than before.
Now:
Less cash on CPA = less payment made and along increased range of time.

Tomorrow:
Less cash in the CPA = less money sent every week,but everyweek.

Many thanks

Arzel
July 11th, 2005, 09:31 PM
The only reason I can remember about servers help for cycle times is the increase to 5 processing days/week against the 3 days/week of when new webiste was introduced.
As the 3 days/week brought an increase of cycle time of at least 1day/week just following calendar days,and this was said on Jan,
the 5days/week have should reduced by 1 or 2 days/week just following calendar days.

The missed point from many of us was that the servers had the priority on all things.
Once servers are up (these days) ,others things on work are being developed,as the Ct time solution from redisigned system.

That doesn't make a lot of sense. The problem with the servers were (according to Kim) not YMMSS problems, so why couldn't he have been working on other issues at the same time. Not that it really matters, because the new servers were mentioned several times as a way to reduce cycle times, and I have the recorded conference calls to back that up.


The YMMSS business model was not changed.
Only the payplan.
It still include the concept of building a strong group to attract advertisers and new services providers to benefit from as alternate income sources.

Sharing good part of the profits from the incoming advertising business with all affiliates in the same way for everyone is the main concept that none of the similar business never done before.

What are you talking about? The new proposed business model is drastically different. To say that only the payplan has been changed is very missleading, because the payplan was the driving force behind getting the 100,000 members (only 25,000 now).

And to say that no other similar business has done this is just wrong, from what I have seen, the pay to read businesses all basically share the profits, the main difference with YMMSS is that it was a Ponzi, and is now proposed to be something different, which I cannot classify at this time, perhaps after a bit more analysis.


The way affiliates ,and admin,are paid is changed,I think in a better method than before.
Now:
Less cash on CPA = less payment made and along increased range of time.

Tomorrow:
Less cash in the CPA = less money sent every week,but everyweek.

Many thanks

Well this yet to be seen, most people were not getting paid before, so it would be hard to do worse, but at the same time, it doesn't appear the changes will make much of a difference in the grand scheme of things.