surfer
July 16th, 2005, 01:16 PM
Much to the chagrin of the top YMMSS recruiters,
Kim Inman claims that his legal team lol "put their
foot down" and the 3% commissions for purchases
of EPCs had to be eliminated.
As someone who works multiple affiliate programs,
some that have been around more than twice as
long as YMMSS, I can say that it's a load of crap. ;)
Proof is as close as the "outside revenue" provided
by the banners on their own YMForums.
The B12 vitamins that they are pedaling come from
Nutronix, an MLM program that pays 35% on customer
order.
LinkShare, the affiliate network that most of the banners
on YMMSS sites come from, offers a $1.5 commission for
every affiliate that you bring in to their network.
Cognigen Networks has an MLM structure and pays a
1% override on all residual income providing sales 6 levels
deep and one time commission overrides on certain non-
residual products and services.
Probably the biggest proof about the viability of the
EPC "product" is the fact that YMMSS will pay you
15% for getting a retail client and will pay your sponsor
2%.
When your recruits purchase an EPC, isn't that the
same thing as a retailer buying advertising space?
So what's the real reason the 3% commission is gone?
In the old system, you didn't earn 3% on the first
purchase. That went to Kim. You did earn 3% on
any subsequent purchases and all repurchases
during cycling.
Do you think the fact that there is no real dollar value
for EPCs in the fixed 90 day cycle has anything to do
with it? You bet.
And by not paying 3% to sponsors, more money will
theoretically go into the CPA to pay all mature 32
point positions.
Before the 3% commission was put in place, admin
still took 25%. Back then, you could earn a one time
$10 recruiting commission or you could send new
recruits to a special url and waive the affiliate fee.
When they implemented the 3% commission, everyone
was singing praises for Kim on how generous he was to
sacrifice that 3% from his own pocket to help newbies
earn money faster.
What nobody seemed to notice was that the affiliate
fee could no longer be waived and Kim got all of it.
Before the 3% fee, if there were 2000 new recruits in
a month, the recruiters could earn $20K and Kim got
25% of all EPC purchases.
After the 3%, 2000 new recruits would give Kim $20K
plus the full 25% on new recruits first EPC purchases
and then 22% on all new purchases and repurchases
during cycling.
Of course, nobody that has entered the system since
the 3% commission was implemented has cycled and
many of the old referrals from the old system weren't
carried over properly to the new website db. So Kim
hasn't had to pay out the 3% on those members
either.
The stories are just so inconsistent and it all favors
Kim Inman.
The original system where YMMSS paid the affiliate
fee directly to the recruiting sponsor was illegal, but
paying 3% on a legitimate product purchase is not.
Kim really needs to look for a better "legal team". lol
Or start telling the truth for a change.
If the 3% is a legal issue, why isn't it being removed
immediately?
Why is it perfectly legal for all of these other long
term affiliate programs to pay a percentage of sales
to and by recruits, but not for YMMSS?
Think about it. :head:
The real reasons the 3% is gone is so that a few
more cents can go into the CPA and there is no
longer cash being used to cycle unmature positions.
Kim Inman claims that his legal team lol "put their
foot down" and the 3% commissions for purchases
of EPCs had to be eliminated.
As someone who works multiple affiliate programs,
some that have been around more than twice as
long as YMMSS, I can say that it's a load of crap. ;)
Proof is as close as the "outside revenue" provided
by the banners on their own YMForums.
The B12 vitamins that they are pedaling come from
Nutronix, an MLM program that pays 35% on customer
order.
LinkShare, the affiliate network that most of the banners
on YMMSS sites come from, offers a $1.5 commission for
every affiliate that you bring in to their network.
Cognigen Networks has an MLM structure and pays a
1% override on all residual income providing sales 6 levels
deep and one time commission overrides on certain non-
residual products and services.
Probably the biggest proof about the viability of the
EPC "product" is the fact that YMMSS will pay you
15% for getting a retail client and will pay your sponsor
2%.
When your recruits purchase an EPC, isn't that the
same thing as a retailer buying advertising space?
So what's the real reason the 3% commission is gone?
In the old system, you didn't earn 3% on the first
purchase. That went to Kim. You did earn 3% on
any subsequent purchases and all repurchases
during cycling.
Do you think the fact that there is no real dollar value
for EPCs in the fixed 90 day cycle has anything to do
with it? You bet.
And by not paying 3% to sponsors, more money will
theoretically go into the CPA to pay all mature 32
point positions.
Before the 3% commission was put in place, admin
still took 25%. Back then, you could earn a one time
$10 recruiting commission or you could send new
recruits to a special url and waive the affiliate fee.
When they implemented the 3% commission, everyone
was singing praises for Kim on how generous he was to
sacrifice that 3% from his own pocket to help newbies
earn money faster.
What nobody seemed to notice was that the affiliate
fee could no longer be waived and Kim got all of it.
Before the 3% fee, if there were 2000 new recruits in
a month, the recruiters could earn $20K and Kim got
25% of all EPC purchases.
After the 3%, 2000 new recruits would give Kim $20K
plus the full 25% on new recruits first EPC purchases
and then 22% on all new purchases and repurchases
during cycling.
Of course, nobody that has entered the system since
the 3% commission was implemented has cycled and
many of the old referrals from the old system weren't
carried over properly to the new website db. So Kim
hasn't had to pay out the 3% on those members
either.
The stories are just so inconsistent and it all favors
Kim Inman.
The original system where YMMSS paid the affiliate
fee directly to the recruiting sponsor was illegal, but
paying 3% on a legitimate product purchase is not.
Kim really needs to look for a better "legal team". lol
Or start telling the truth for a change.
If the 3% is a legal issue, why isn't it being removed
immediately?
Why is it perfectly legal for all of these other long
term affiliate programs to pay a percentage of sales
to and by recruits, but not for YMMSS?
Think about it. :head:
The real reasons the 3% is gone is so that a few
more cents can go into the CPA and there is no
longer cash being used to cycle unmature positions.