Kim Inman's YMMSS Mushroom Farm

[surfer]

I think most will get the reference. ;)

So many pro-YMMSS members are always
chastising other members for speculative
posts about a number of different things.

The most recent example of course is all
of the current speculation on just how much
a matured EPC will be worth.

All of the speculation about this could be
easily eliminated if Kim Inman and YMMSS
were as "transparent" as many like to claim
they are.

When Kim made his big announcement over
in the UK, why use example figures?

Why not use real figures so his affiliates could
have at least some idea of where they will really
stand in the new system?

It would have taken him about 5 seconds to pull
up how many positions are currently in the matrix
and how many are currently at the mature level.

These figures would give his affiliate base a good
starting point to calculate where they stand and
what needs to happen to get where they want to
be with their income.

But of course Kim prefers to keep spreading fertilizer
on his mushroom farm for a few more weeks or months,
leaving every affiliate completely in the dark about
what to expect for their income if/when the new system
is implemented.

If these "shares" were going to be worth very much at
all, you would think he would proudly give some real stats.

Guess not.

C'mon Kim. Let your people know how many total positions
are in the matrix and how many are currently mature.

[Gringo]

Guess not.

Me either. My guess is that the real numbers show that it will take much longer with the new system to double $320 than with the current CT. Wouldn't want people to know about that just yet would we? :nono:

Let's first get them a little re-motivated to buy some more EPCs so that they are in a good position to share in the fabulous wealth comming soon.

When the real numbers are known--well just remember that the goal is to generate enough income that the weekly payouts will double the $320 in 90 days or less, and as soon as the retail ad revenue starts flowing...

[danielmeyers]

C'mon Kim. Let your people know how many total positions
are in the matrix and how many are currently mature.

Kim said that there are over 150,000 positions in the matrix - but didn't comment on how many of these were mature. This was in a private conference call in late 2004.

[surfer]

Kim said that there are over 150,000 positions in the matrix - but didn't comment on how many of these were mature. This was in a private conference call in late 2004.

It looks like there are now around triple that amount.

[concerned]

Kim said that there are over 150,000 positions in the matrix

Accurate information is always better. When you say over 150,000 it cam mean 150,001 or 999,999,999,999

This is deception at it's finest.

[Salsa]

Well, since we can only speculate at this point, here's one of mine:

Kim's example of using 5,184,032 credits seemed quite high to me, but it's such an odd number for a mere example, that I thought it might have some substance--maybe from a test run on one of his spreadsheets of how the system might work.

Divide 5,184,032 by 32, and you get 162,001 mature positions eligible for payments. That's still many more than I would have expected from previous models I've run. I'd come up with a maximum of about 80,000 before.

To find where there might still be some substance in the example, I considered how the new system could be weighted in favor and fairness to members who have waited the longest to cycle--as Kim said it would be.

One possibility could be that he would do a doubling per 90-days on mature credits between the time of purchase and implementation of the new system. For example, if the new system were to be implemented on 8/1/2005, a $320 purchased on 11/1/2004 would be worth not 32 credits but 256 (2/1/2005: 64; 5/1/2005: 128; 8/1/2005: 256).

I don't know if he's even thought of this possibility, but if he has, he could justify it in the name of "fairness," and it would create a windfall on his own positions plus those of other early members. It would certainly cause a huge cheer from them--and YMMSS is only marketed by cheers, anyway.

The problem with this possible "fairness" strategy in reconciling it with Kim's example numbers is that it would create even more credits than offered in the example--at least when using my 8/1/2005 implementation date.

In all likelihood, however, Kim would have pulled an earlier implementation date from his worksheet to use as an example because it would look better when divvying up cash in the RFA. And, using an earlier implementation date could also easily reconcile the example numbers with reality.

This is mostly speculation, of course, but I think it may have merit because it's the most diabolical scheme I can think of at this stage--which seems to match Kim's MO pretty well.

Salsa
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[Gringo]

Here's Kims answer to your question:

Q-4: Will you make available to all, statistics such as: the number of positions currently in the system, and the # of positions purchased (not doubled) during the last 4 quarters?

Answer:
Not at this time. Our plate is full developing the new system and processing.


There you have it. He's too busy to bother with such questions as to how much affiliates will make.

[concerned]

Wow, talk about bad customer service.

Not really, though, since you are not really customers, but victims instead.

[surfer]

What a crock. :shake:

Yep, much better for Kim's bank account
if he doesn't give people real numbers to
work with.

Better to keep them in the dark guessing
and hoping than telling the truth.

Hell, I didn't even want that much detail,
just current number of $320s and total
number of positions.

[Arzel]

Here's Kims answer to your question:


Q-4: Will you make available to all, statistics such as: the number of positions currently in the system, and the # of positions purchased (not doubled) during the last 4 quarters?

Answer:
Not at this time. Our plate is full developing the new system and processing.


There you have it. He's too busy to bother with such questions as to how much affiliates will make.

What is most amazing is that to develop the new system he will have to have this information readily available, how much more work would it take to display the number of positions when they are right there in the 2 new databases that have to be created.