It's going to become VERY quiet around here when....

[MrT46]

The new YMMSS is up & running, AND everyone is earning weekly., What will be the sick strategy at this putrifying site when when THAT happens?
What will be said then? I'm sure I'll enjoy it when YMMSS can dish out a nice, big, juicy platter of CROW!

[brenda]

I hope so. I don't like seeing my daughter's hopes and dreams going into the trash, along with everybody else's. Do you know how many people posted at YM that they were seriously depressed because they had made promises to their daughters, that they were unable to fulfill.





The new YMMSS is up & running, AND everyone is earning weekly., What will be the sick strategy at this putrifying site when when THAT happens?
What will be said then? I'm sure I'll enjoy it when YMMSS can dish out a nice, big, juicy platter of CROW!

[jokach]

The new YMMSS is up & running, AND everyone is earning weekly.


Isn't this what they said when YMMSS first started many years ago? :head:

jokach

[MatrixWatch]

The big question is... Why is there a need for a "new" YMMSS to be up and running, and what assurances do the YMMSS victims have that this "new" program will have different results from the "old" one.

By launching a "new YMMSS", they are inadvertantly admitting that there was a problem with the old one (as we've been saying for quite some time). So, to answer the question about what MatrixWatch plans to do about it, I suppose that it will be the same as what has been done already: Speak the truth about this specific program and provide sound evidence and argumentation about why it is problematic and unsustainable.

After all, time has shown that we were correct in our predictions about the "old" YMMSS, so that is a huge credibility boost. And we are totally confident that we can keep on doing exactly what we've done to be successful and gain more credibility in the future. It doesn't seem that YMMSS can make that same claim. :)

[Deso]

I hope for the sake of all the conned folks in YMMSS that everything works out for them, sadly I know that this will never happen so this "putrifying site" will be around for a long time after YMMSS is long buried. :(
Id just like to say that Im pretty annoyed with all the YMMSS folks who feel the need to call this site evil, bring it down and pretty much blaspheme when they know exactly what is going on. If they dont then in making their comments they obviously dont have the mental intellect to pass judgement on this site. :nono: But then again maybe some one else is doing it for them as they cannot think for themselves!. :crazy:
To all the folks who have money in YMMSS Im sorry and I do hope you can regain it.
To the other PRO-YMMSS folks - Go and take a hard look at yourselves in the mirror before you con another cent out of the next breadline biz-opp family. :nono:
How dare you take money from unsuspecting people when you yourself do not know how the system works and how it will repay!

You are nothing but vultures!! Waiting for the next unsuspecting victim to pay his $22 that may or may not move you up a notch on the everlasting conveyor belt to the "feeding zone" where you feast on the scraps of your Demi-God Kim's table. :bow:
Feel proud that you "earn" his scraps, he's taken what he wants, and he's left you with what you can all scramble for. :shake:
So does that make you feel good? Because that is exactly what is happening!

Feel free to pour scorn, threats and blind faith because this rottweiler (as Bigdaddy so fondly refers to us as) will not let go. :D
Have a nice day y'all. :o
Deso

[Gringo]

The new YMMSS is up & running, AND everyone is earning weekly., What will be the sick strategy at this putrifying site when when THAT happens?
What will be said then? I'm sure I'll enjoy it when YMMSS can dish out a nice, big, juicy platter of CROW!

And how is that platter of crow tasting right now? See, folks here knew from the beginning that YMMSS would fail and have to build a "new and improved" model to stay alive. But the pro-YMMSS people would come here and say how the solid track record and Kim's reserves was proof that the system could never fail. Then in failed. Cycle times kept climbing and there was no way to fix it. So Kim just reorganized things and traded rising CT for shrinking weekly payouts. Get used to it because by the end of the year you'll see all kinds of excuses as to why no big ad clients have signed up for the paid to read deal and how an even better "new and improved" plan is in the works.

[MrT46]

Deso, you are one sick puppy. One thing I'm thankful for, I don't have to meet you in person, ever! Thank you Jesus! You are sick with hatred & jealousy!
I hope for the sake of all the conned folks in YMMSS that everything works out for them, sadly I know that this will never happen so this "putrifying site" will be around for a long time after YMMSS is long buried. :( HA! we'll see.
Id just like to say that Im pretty annoyed with all the YMMSS folks who feel the need to call this site evil, bring it down and pretty much blaspheme ??? Spoken like a true matrix watch cultistHow dare you take money from unsuspecting people when you yourself do not know how the system works and how it will repay! Listen here, LOL I have shown the "NEW" YMMSS to countless, Networkers, businessmen, and they were impressed, I had no problem bringing them in to the company. Funny, how intelligent people can see it, but the hateful anti -Kim Inman people here can't, actually; it's not funny, but sad.

You are nothing but vultures!! Waiting for the next unsuspecting victim to pay his $22 that may or may not move you up a notch on the everlasting conveyor belt to the "feeding zone" where you feast on the scraps of your Demi-God Kim's table. :bow: Wow, where is this guy coming from? His jealousy & hatred will eat his insides up. Yes, a true matrix watch cultist.
Feel proud that you "earn" his scraps, he's taken what he wants, and he's left you with what you can all scramble for. :shake:
So does that make you feel good? Because that is exactly what is happening!
I feel wonderful! And so do all of the NEW YMMSS AFFILIATES! We're so excited we can hardly contain ourselves.!!
Feel free to pour scorn, threats and blind faith because this rottweiler (as Bigdaddy so fondly refers to us as) will not let go. :D
Yep, you got it mad dogs, filled with hate & jealousy. I can almost see you foaming at the mouth. Sick & stinking. Have a nice day y'all. :o
Thank you, we will. Our days will be splended, In fact our lives will be happier and richer than yours will be!
Deso

[surfer]

Welcome to Matrix Watch MrT46.

Too bad you are incapable of providing anything
other than insults to back up your thinking.

Kim Inman lied to thousands of people about cycle
times and how much money they could realistically
earn long term from his ponzi.

The pathetic results from the banner ads on the
YMForums and YMMSS.org should open your eyes
to just how bad the results will be for any advertisers
that decide to risk advertising to an untargeted group
of biz opp seekers.

Earning a couple bucks per share at the start is a far
cry from 100K earning $100K. The only people that
will be earning anything substantial will be those that
invested heavily or have been in for a long time. The
majority that have very few positions will earn very
little and will watch it drop every week as thousands
of positions flood the RFA.

Perhaps you need to pay a little more attention to your
own forums. There are plenty of people who aren't
happy with YMMSS, old or new.

The fact that well over 1/3 of the membership think
so little of YMMSS that they couldn't be bothered to
fill out the survey should also be a good clue for you.

If Kim Inman hadn't lied so much and made so many
promises he couldn't/wouldn't keep, there wouldn't
be a YMMSS forum here at Matrix Watch.

[Dreamer]

I wish I could quote it...it was in a conference call. If somebody else can't quote it, i'll find the quote later.

Kim was pushing his members to all sign up for ymauctions so that it could appear to be this big auction place. He wants to fabricate the truth even to retailers in hopes of conning one of them into purchasing. By the way, looking at it now, there are 25 auctions, 2069 members, no bids.

1 person has 14 auctions. No bids. The same person has 61 closed auctions with 1 bid total. So, 75 auctions has one bid from this person. The 8th item that is ending soon is ending in 3 days...is that really ending soon?

I really dont know how anybody can trust this joker with all the lies that he was caught it, him wanting to portray something (the auction site) that its not.

Remember the servers that was supposed to be so wonderful that it will process everyday? now, the payouts will only be once a week, not everyday. And, does intgold not care if there will be 25,000 transactions every week from ym?

[surfer]

lol lol

Like I said in The token crumb--YMAuctions.com (http://www.matrixwatch.org/forums/showthread.php?t=2680),
Kim had the auction site thrown together simply
to keep his flock thinking that he was actually
doing something to generate outside revenue.

The same thing with the banner ads. They could
have had those banner ads up from the very start
if they wanted to get a little outside revenue flowing.
And it would have been a logical way to get affiliates
to change their buying habits which is what will be
necessary for a successful advertising business.

And if affiliates were to believe all of the bull**** about
"date arithmetic" that mjgroup and corey were spewing
on the YMForums, processing 5 days per week should
have been the utmost priority even with the new system
switching to weekly processing. According to their
flawed logic, 5 day per week processing would have kept
cycle times from rising 6 or 7 days each week. lol :head:

What a complete and total joke.

[Deso]

In response to MrT46, One Sick Puppy? - You can tell that about me from a post I put up here in Matrixwatch can you? Wow your perception of people must be really amazing! :bow: You should be on the stage If you can make judgements about one person from a solitary post. But anyway You can think what you want about me.
Im just jealous and full of hatred (Yup! thats me! spot on! lol).Jealous of what? and hatred of what? Im intrigued to know as you seem to know more about me than myself.
What I said in my post about YMMSS is my personal view, so how can you call me a true matrix watch cultist? What cult do I follow? can you please explain that to me? :confused:
You seem to offer nothing but typical responses. You will probably never be able to back up your statements, we've all heard the one about introducing the "company" (whos books you will never likely see) to businessmen, networkers etc who all seem impressed. Have you any proof? and If they were such astute businessmen and networkers do you not think they would have been "in" on this "good business" from the start?
Wake up and look whats going on around you. :shake:

[Curious as Ever]

Sometimes I wonder about those still purchasing credits! Who do they think will come in behind them and pay them when they hit the paying pool. It will be so diluted by then it won't matter. Retailers are not going to be involved with a pay system that is failing and will continue to fail. So many now are knee deep in credit cards that they won't be able to buy a scarf from little old Gramma if she was a mom and pop retailer.

Kim has not shared with his followers that came in from the start where he says he invests money to make money. He was approached by someone I know that tried to get the banking system going and he also showed him how to make some investments that would help ymmss there was no answer on Kim's part. He does not want to deal with those that have good business practices because they are so knowlegable and he doesn't want reveal his nature with them. I a member of ymmss was lied to about the 90 day cycle I have it recorded 3 times what was discussed. I stopped all purchases and at the 90 day cycle started cvw until now. Yes I got my money back and even more which was paid by other members behind me so I am not perfect in being angry and taking more then I should have. Now this new pay system well it will tell the tale without success because of the math involved as has always been the case.

Those left on the forums who are pro ymmss are tearing each others hearts out one by one they are not bad people but caught up in bad times. Prepare for the worst and learn from your mistakes.

[AvidA]

Deso, you are one sick puppy. One thing I'm thankful for, I don't have to meet you in person, ever! Thank you Jesus! You are sick with hatred & jealousy!


You! Leave Jesus out of this. If you knew Him, you'd know how offensive that is. Jesus Christ has nothing to do with your bitterness over having lost out on a scam job. You will have to face that on your own soon enough. :nono:

[AvidA]

Those left on the forums who are pro ymmss are tearing each others hearts out one by one they are not bad people but caught up in bad times. Prepare for the worst and learn from your mistakes.


Those left in the YMforums who are pro YMMSS are at each other's throats! The moderators are infamously known as "the gestapo" and "Hitler's mad camp" behind the scenes. They pick and choose who they want to use the membership terms on. I.e. Someone may want to call someone else stupid and they let it slide if it's a mod or a YM cheerleader. However, if someone needs to ask a question and they're new and haven't read the TOU(or ar just not using it as their bible) then they get deleted, thrown out and/or followed around ever after....treated like crap. Everything they say gets dumped in some archive file. I get told a lot of stuff behind the scenes.

Even if Kim Inman was successful with the business in his own right, this "gestapo" would bring down (and is tearing down) his kingdom because more and more people feel the need to come here and breathe...say what they want and pose the concerns that are necessary to them. Then, they find out the real skinny and it turns them away from YM totally. This is going to happen more and more and more.

[ymmss_victim]

I know I have give up posting over there. You say something really benign and it gets edited or deleted, others attack you with their pro ymmss (your money machine system sucks) bs and it just stays there. I have had problems with just about every mod. I would have to say Viper is probably the worst.

[AvidA]

Eww..I don't know. Norilee is an *******! I would lay odds that she's worse. Look at her signature. "you either take responsibity for your life or you don't" or something hateful like that like she's arrived! lol lol :crazy: :crazy: lol lol

[Deso]

Just want an update on how my small wager with Brenda and YM is doing? My $320 has crept up, not much but I bet its better than YM.. Hows it going Brenda?

[brenda]

I'M ABOUT 8,000 POSITIONS away from being paid a $320. so, "we'll see" !!! :) (i can remember when it was 30,000 positions away, so slooooowwly it is creeping up)

[surfer]

I'M ABOUT 8,000 POSITIONS away from being paid a $320. so, "we'll see" !!! :) (i can remember when it was 30,000 positions away, so slooooowwly it is creeping up)
You might make it if the new system doesn't
go in for two months. Not looking good.

I wonder if we'll find out who the poor soul
is with the next position in line that would
be paid when the switch happens.

That poor person will go from getting $320
or $640 to hoping for $0.50/week. :weep:

Ouch.

[Dreamer]

That poor person will go from getting $320
or $640 to hoping for $0.50/week.

Ouch.

This is my biggest beaf showing that its nothing more than a ponzi, and kim and all the mods are lying to the member base. There is a simple way to make this transaction fair.

Here is my proposal to make it fair for everybody.

As of 12:01 PST (or whenever) November 1st the site will convert to the new system. To avoid confusion, there will be no new purchases from 9pm-3am. After 3am, all new purchases will only be for the new system.

Any new purchases from now until 9pm, including outstanding shares, will have the choice to go into the new system or stay in the old system. Divide the number that want the new system by the ones that want to stay in the old system, and you got the percentage that goes into each group.

Now, since they are pushing the new system, I'd give 60% to the new system, and 40% to the old system, if its straight 50/50. In other words, weigh the new system at 60% instead of 50%.

When a position on the new system cycles, the person has 2 options. To claim via website, or convert to the new system. Give them the 2 days like they get now. In the 2 days they can claim, or dictate how they want their position to convert. Say, if its a $320 payout, do they want a $320 position in the new system, or 2 $180s, etc.

Eventually, the whole site sill be bought over to the new payment system. That way the people who do not like the new system can get out now, and that way those who are really into the new system will actually have a bigger payout because of the 60/40 and because people can withdraw their positions eventually so there isnt so many mature positions.

[lionking]

Dreamer, your proposal is great!

:applause: :applause: :applause:


If YM Admin did it your way, I don't think we would have any
problems... Back to painful REALITY please!

lol lol lol

[surfer]

You are a dreamer, Dreamer. ;)

While your idea might be ideal, it could
hardly be considered "a simple way".

The programming would be a nightmare.
Given Kim's track record, such a difficult
mingling of systems would probably take
decades. lol

There is no "fair for everybody" option.
That went out the window as soon as the
90 day barrier was breached and the ponzi
started to stall.

[brenda]

yes, it looks like they are paying out "about" 1000 positions a week, so it will take 8 weeks to move through 8000 positions. yes, you are right about having "survivors guilt" also. it doesnt seem right that the poor people behind me who are buying tens like crazy are the ones who will be paying my $320 if it EVER pays before the new system comes in. But then the money I put in went to pay someone ahead of me. You're right, it isn't right (morally) the way it is going. OH ACTUALLY the poor souls behind me are my friends and my daughter. they dont hate me or blame me, but they are actually more devastated than i am.




You might make it if the new system doesn't
go in for two months. Not looking good.

I wonder if we'll find out who the poor soul
is with the next position in line that would
be paid when the switch happens.

That poor person will go from getting $320
or $640 to hoping for $0.50/week. :weep:

Ouch.

[surfer]

OH ACTUALLY the poor souls behind me are my friends and my daughter. they dont hate me or blame me, but they are actually more devastated than i am.
Sorry to hear that.

I'm happy that they don't blame you.

I've received my fair share of PMs and
emails from others who aren't as fortunate.

[MatrixWatch]

Its going to be very quiet around here when the new YMMSS is up & running, AND everyone is earning weekly., What will be the sick strategy at this putrifying site when when THAT happens?
What will be said then? I'm sure I'll enjoy it when YMMSS can dish out a nice, big, juicy platter of CROW!

Sorry to bump up an old thread, but I couldn't help but notice how much crow has been eaten, and how quiet it has been lately.

Oh, but I don't mean us! I was speaking for MrT46 and his group of self-proclaimed prophets.

:cool:

[surfer]

Occasional "bumps" are good watchdog.

They provide a nice reminder of things past. ;)

[Veiled Threat]

The new YMMSS is up & running, AND everyone is earning weekly., What will be the sick strategy at this putrifying site when when THAT happens?
What will be said then? I'm sure I'll enjoy it when YMMSS can dish out a nice, big, juicy platter of CROW!
MrT46

http://x2.putfile.com/10/28720395646.gif

[Deso]

I wish MRT46 would drop in and see us again..
You may remember Im the sick & twisted, bitter with rage,matrixwatch cultist (according to MrT46). Im still however waiting for the crow to be served up and prove me wrong!.
Brenda, my $320 positions in the bank are slowly increasing, hows your positions in YMMSS now? I realise you have seen the light so to speak and Im sorry for anything I may have said out of turn previously.
Hope you have a great 2006 and You get everything back

[Dreamer]

I pulled this thread out of retirement cuz I thought it was so funny. You know what folks, sometimes we are right on here. Actually, we are usually right cuz we have facts and reality on our side.

The whole premise of STA is just silly. It sounds good. Ineffective tv and newspaper advertising. The internet is the way to go. That sounds good, I'd almost buy it. It is true though.

You see, 10 years ago when there was no internet (for the sake of argument since it was still kinda new back then) when you went to a store and bought something for $10, thats how much you paid for it. You didnt know any better. Yeah, you bargin hunted to find the store with the cheapest price. Thats human nature. But, even that store how much was the markup? How much above cost were you paying for it?

Then came eBay, where any joe can sell any garbage at way below retail just to get rid of it. So now, instead of going to walmart to buy underwear people are seeing if they can get a good deal on eBay.

But, it gets even better for consumers. Go to epinions and you can read reviews on products before you buy them. Now products are being made better because consumers are getting smarter because there is more information out there for them to study thanks to the internet.

And what about those sites that you can say what your looking for and they'll tell you all the merchants who are selling it and what price?

And, back to eBay, amazon allows regular consumers to sell product. Even the whole idea of the internet is anybody can sell anything without great overhead costs of running a brick and morter store. Thats a big deal.

So, what is the cost of whatever you are looking to buy? You can find that online. And, you can find a wholesaler out there who will sell it to u at a buck above cost, so they can push thousands of items and make alot of money based on quantity sold.

So, are tv and radio and newspapers becomming less effective? To a point, yes, only because consumers are getting smarter before they purchase. So, is a site like STA going to be the next big thing? Of course not.

If the cost of advertising with STA was free, then the advertisers could sell the product at lowest possible cost. However, because there is a cost, the advertisers will need to recoop the cost. So, if the cost is $3,000 and they hope to sell 100 units, then they would sell the product at normal markup + $30 to recover costs.

Now, I as a consumer, if I want to buy that product, I can either buy it thru STA so that a few pennies on the dollar is split up by 200,000 units, or I can see if I can get that product even cheaper. Some will support the retailer in hopes of getting kickbacks, but that doesnt make sence.

Going back to my example earlier. lets say the product normally sells for $200. On STA its $230 to recover advertising costs. $30 will go to STA. About $23 will be split up into 200,000 pieces. That person wont even get a penny back from that purchase where they can buy it elsewhere for closer to $200. Even if they find it for $225, they are still saving $5.

But, maybe i Just dont understand why any retailer would want to advertise with a group of people making money to read ads. They are there to make money not to spend money. I would rather advertise at a place where people are looking to spend money not make money.

[ymmss_victim]

All too true, why go there and point and click and page your way through things when you can go to something searchable and sophisticated like froogle, pricegrabber, etc.

[AvidA]

I don't see any need for this thread to be pulled out. Why- don't you all know that the "business is still up and running?" That's what a very nasty, hateful Kim Inman said on last night's conference call!

People like MrT are starting to want the truth and they shouldn't have to beg for it but they're going to. Kim Inman was a bastitch on the call last night because he knows he's wrong and he's getting stamped for it. People are wanting answers that he doesn't want to give.

[Ferret]

Sorry for being off topic.....
Can anyone listen in on the conference call?
When is the next one?
What is the info to get in?

Is there an open question time or is everone muzzled?

I have only been on one conference call and when I asked them if spamming was part of their marketing plan (as that was how i found out about it) they shut down the question period after doing some umming and ahhing
I asked the other potential suckers if they were spammed too.....
had too keep raising my voice as they tried to talk over me :lol:

I think they were mlm vacation packages or some crap like that

[ymmss_victim]

Is there an open question time or is everone muzzled?


Is that why I keep hearing those 18 1/2 minute gaps...