TEAMinator ... any views?

[gypsy]

So what are some views on TEAMinator.......it hasnt even launched yet....but surely there are some thoughts on this.....positive or negative???

[jokach]

gypsy

I broke out your post into its own thread, because I think it needs some attention. This scam hasn't even started and it looks like its destined to fail. Its funny how they capture the concept of 'team' in the name of scam, showing you that its basically a pyramid/ponzi because you count on other 'team' members in order to earn ... I personally think that the term 'team' is used out of context on that site. Its a matter of recruit, recruit, and have them recruit ... then call it your team as the person at the top rakes in the money ......... I'd also love to see what the 'targeted audiences' are to market your programs to .. sounds like another YMMSS ...

what a joke .. I hope nobody falls for it .. :shake:

jokach

[surfer]

Since jokach moved gypsy's post, I'll copy my
reply here. :D

So what are some views on TEAMinator.......it hasnt even launched yet....but surely there are some thoughts on this.....positive or negative???

lol lol :head: :head:

The Who We Are (http://www.teaminator.com/who_we_are.php) page tells me enough to know
how little these clowns should be trusted.

Just more people trying to reinvent the
YMMSS ponzi. Not much different than
The AAN.

[dre77]

Teaminator rules and i am cashing out on it and im just an average member, i am in a few matrix programs and they are working, would you guys like to concentrate on positive programs?

Teaminator is truly geared to be a stayer and to get 1500 members within hours of launch PROVES its popuarity and the admin email everyday and inform members what is going on,

You guys just remember this when i say Teaminator is here for years to come and will make plenty rich, i am proof and im at the bottom :)

Cheers

dre77

[mercinary]

I'm not familiar with this particular operation, but if it is truely a matrix scheme, then mathematically it is destined to fail. There is no way around it. Even if every single person in the world signed up for the matrix, 95% would still never cycle.

Maybe Dre77 can explain to us how TEAMinator is going to get around these mathematics?

-Merc

[dre77]

TEAMINATOR HAD APPROACHED THE FEDS AND THEY WENT THROUGH THEIR WHOLE PROGRAM AND THEY FOUND IT ALL VERY LEGAL!!!

ITS JUST NOT FAIR TO EVEN MENTION SCAM AS THAT WORD SAID WITH A PROGRAM DOES IT DAMAGE AND ITS SO EASY TO SAY AND NEARLY EVERYONE WHO POSTS IT AS BEING A SCAM ARE NOT MEMBERS AND DONT KNOW WHAT OR HOW THE PROGRAM WORKS,

IF I HAD LISTENED TOO THESE POSTS I WOULD HAVE NOT RECIEVED $320 TODAY FROM TEAMINATOR,

THE ADMIN IS SO SO SO HONEST AND THEY EMAIL EVERYDAY AND YESTERDAY WE HAD A CONFERENCE AND ALL MEMBERS HAD EVERY SINGLE QUESTION ANSWERED FOR THEM AND NO ONE SAID A BAD WORD,

THEY HAVE 1500 MEMBERS RIGHT NOW AND OUT OF THOSE 1500 ONLY 5 HAVE REQUESTED REFUNDS AND THEY WERE ALL HONOURED IN A TIMLEY FASHION, only 5 wow they must be on the level!!!!

AND BY THE WAY I AM NOT AN ADMIN MEMBER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, I LIVE IN AUSTRALIA AND WORK A JOB WHILE JOINING PROGRAMS ON THE NET,

IT JUST TICKS ME OFF WHEN PEOPLE SAY SHOUT SCAM AND I I FOR ONE WANT TO STAND UP FOR THE ADMIN AT TEAMINATOR WHO HAVE BEEN ANGELS TO US MEMBERS COMPARED TO ANY OTHER ADMIN OUT THERE, THESE GUYS TELL THE TRUTH ALL THE TIME, HONESTY AND INTEGRITY IS WHAT ITS ALL ABOUT,

THE POST BEFORE ME STATES THAT MATRIXES DONT WORK AND EVEN IF EVERYONE IN THE WORLD JOINED NOT EVEN %95 WOULD BE PAID,

WELL SORRY BUT THATS NOT TRUE AND IN QUALITY PROGRAMS THAT PROFIT MATRIXES MAKE PEOPLE RICH, YOU SEE ITS NOT THAT OLD PYRAMID/PONZI WHERE STYLES OF MATRIX WHERE YOU ONLY PROFIT IF PEOPLE COME IN BEHIND YOU,

QUALITY MATRIXES HAVE BECOME SO EVOLVED NOW DAYS WITH SO MANY DIFFERENT FACTORS AND THEY DO WORK AND I COULD NAME HEAPS OF THESE COMPANIES BUT THAT WOULD TAKE TOO MUCH TIME,

OK TEAMINATOR'S prc matrix is a sure winner and say if you purchase $10 worth of add credits that $10 will turn into $320 5 times and that can happen for ever as with everyone purchasing these add credits( because this is how we advertise to other members) and purchases are made daily, this aswell as the monthly subscription members pay helps and makes sure this keeps running, the PRC is only one aspect of the Teaminator and there are many more ways to make money and advertise what you want,

So basically with members re feeding the matrix and the mathematics behind this, its working, and guess what--They have been open 2 short weeks and they are going to make a 6 figure payment to members tommorow!!!!!!!!!!!!

GEE IM GLAD IM A MEMBER

SO GIVE TEAMINATOR A FAIR GO AND AS THEY REALLY DO DESERVE A CLEAN NAME AND THE ADMIN MADE SO SURE EVERYTHING IS ABOVE BOURD,

Cheers guys and im not ticked off anymore but trying to give these guys a good name

dre77

[ComplexKid]

Ouch--all caps is grating on the eyes, to say the least.

I'd be interested to know what lawyer says this is all on the up-and-up. Maybe the same one who endorsed YMMSS?

It's a matrix and a doubler, like AAN, and the product is money. That's not legal no matter how you slice and dice it. And if you're getting paid, it's only at some other poor sap's expense when they get in late.

It's not something to be real proud of, dude.

[dre77]

The product is not money and i am not making $$$ from someone elses expence, its that simple, i am a member YOU are not, I know how this works YOU dont,

THE PRODUCT IS SOFTWARE AND A WAY TO ADVERTISE PROGRAMS SO ITS NOT MONEY,

WHY DONT YOU CALL TEAMINATOR OR HAVE YOUR LAWYER DO IT FOR YOU, NUMBERS ON THE WEBSITE,

I'D BE MORE WRORRIED ABOUT THE LAWYER SCAMMING YOU,

[weirdid]

dre77,


IF I HAD LISTENED TOO THESE POSTS I WOULD HAVE NOT RECIEVED $320 TODAY FROM TEAMINATOR,


Where do you think this sum of money came from ?.

Its the same old case of "rob peter to pay paul", those that join late, pay the early birds.

Funds to pay members comes from other members, the product is just a smoke screen, it could be software, cell phone,or even a plasma tv.

If there is no outside sorce of funds, it will only have a limited life.


Please correct me if i'm wrong.

weird

[surfer]

TEAMINATOR HAD APPROACHED THE FEDS AND THEY WENT THROUGH THEIR WHOLE PROGRAM AND THEY FOUND IT ALL VERY LEGAL!!!
lol lol lol lol :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

IF I HAD LISTENED TOO THESE POSTS I WOULD HAVE NOT RECIEVED $320 TODAY FROM TEAMINATOR,
You can make money from other criminal
activities as well. Does that make them
legal?

THE POST BEFORE ME STATES THAT MATRIXES DONT WORK AND EVEN IF EVERYONE IN THE WORLD JOINED NOT EVEN %95 WOULD BE PAID,

WELL SORRY BUT THATS NOT TRUE AND IN QUALITY PROGRAMS THAT PROFIT MATRIXES MAKE PEOPLE RICH, YOU SEE ITS NOT THAT OLD PYRAMID/PONZI WHERE STYLES OF MATRIX WHERE YOU ONLY PROFIT IF PEOPLE COME IN BEHIND YOU,
Since you are so sure, please show us how
it will mathematically work out long term.
QUALITY MATRIXES HAVE BECOME SO EVOLVED NOW DAYS WITH SO MANY DIFFERENT FACTORS AND THEY DO WORK AND I COULD NAME HEAPS OF THESE COMPANIES BUT THAT WOULD TAKE TOO MUCH TIME,
lol lol Just naming a few "quality matrixes"
would suffice.

[dre77]

Yes but if the product is being purchased everyday by members and then repurchased again by those members which it is whats the problem?

Advertising is being purchased here everyday,

rob peter to pay paul?

well using this example you could say that peter robs paul but then paul robs peter , i kind of never ending cycle going around in a circle, and again this is supported and made stable by purchasing add credits and a monthly subscription that is paid by all members and it is that which keeps this alive and rolling and ofcourse when you add hundreds of members (not just peter and paul) it becomes sucessfull,

Look all i really wanted to prove to people here that teaminator is not a scam and the admin went to great lengths with the feds to get this on the level and i just thought that its not very ethical or moral to yell scam at this program when that is just peoples opinion in the moment and then they forget about it without actually getting real proof except that its just another ymms or aan or its like this or that,

product smoke screen?? When products are purchased teaminator makes money to pay members,

funds to pay members comes from other members?? Ok when a member purchases add credits they are purchasing a product, every member does this over and over, from this product being sold other members get paid, again this is only in the PRC matrix part of teaminator, there are other ways to benefit and use the program, This Is LEGAL and it works

In the prc matrix the person at the front then goes to the back and so on in perpetual motion so the person at the top isnt the only one profiting,

These days the matrixes being invented are so amazing and so confusing and very hard to explain, its not as easy as looking at a pyramid of people and saying this is impossible to work because where is the money coming from as there is so much more to it than that,

I will keep you guys posted about this but looks like i cant win as i just got lucky or i got in at the top or it wont last, how about its working, its paying, its legal (feds approved!), it has refunded 5 people out of 1500 members,

BE FAIR AND COMMENT AND ASK QU BUT THIS IS NO SCAM AND THAT IS WHAT I WANTED TO PROVE AND IM YET TO SEE PROOF THAT IT IS A SCAM SO HAD I NOTHING TO PROVE ANYWAY,

Pce

[surfer]

You keep saying the feds approve Andre.

What feds? How about some contact info and
proof to back that claim up.

These days the matrixes being invented are so amazing and so confusing and very hard to explain, its not as easy as looking at a pyramid of people and saying this is impossible to work because where is the money coming from as there is so much more to it than that,
The math showing guaranteed long term failure
is very easy to explain.

Digital "products" have made ponzis so much
easier to pass off as legit.

And yes, you did get in early. Congratulations
on becoming a successful internet predator. :shake:

[dre77]

Surfer if you really wanted to know how it worked mathematically you would have called teaminator dont you think?

because why would you beleive me, i think you dont want to know because you are scared to hear what you dont want to hear,

TEAMINATOR HAD APPROACHED THE FEDS AND THEY WENT THROUGH THEIR WHOLE PROGRAM AND THEY FOUND IT ALL LEGAL!!!,

Your response to this was a few smiley faces, well looks like you lost on that one and you obviously have nothing to come back with so im laughin right back at ya mate but hey i'll give you another chance to prove its a scam.

You can make money from other criminal
activities as well. Does that make them
legal? ok but the feds found no problem so its not illegal, no extras needed here,lol,

Just naming a few "quality matrixes"
would suffice.
1). xooma
2).Liberty Health Net
3).frutavita
4).Vemma
5).Star2000

round 1 goes to me, im ready for round 2, this is fun and too easy, YOU GOT NOTHIN,

PEACE

dre77

[mercinary]

Andre,

I want to see some math (as suggested before). A typical matrix scheme looks something like so:


Person #1 pays: Becomes the one currently cycling. Pot becomes $100.
Person #2 pays: Pool becomes $200.
Person #3 pays: Pool becomes $300.
Person #4 pays: Pool becomes $400.
Person #5 pays: Pool becomes $500.

Person #1 "cycles" and recieves free item (worth $350), website takes $150 profit and Person #2 moves to currently cycling position.

Person #6 pays: Pool becomes $100.
Person #7 pays: Pool becomes $200.
Person #8 pays: Pool becomes $300.
Person #9 pays: Pool becomes $400.
Person #10 pays: Pool becomes $500

Person #2 cycles" and recieves free item (worth $350), website takes $150 profit and Person #3 moves to currently cycling position.


Show me how you made money. Were you in a list of people like the above example?

-Merc

[surfer]

I already told you the math is easy to do. I
don't need to have it explained.

Since you are such a big supporter, you should
be able to explain how it could be maintained
mathematically.

Of course, you are quickly proving incapable
of answering simple questions.

As soon as you answer the question about
which federal agency "approved" of the scam
and provide evidence of such approval, we
can move forward.

[dre77]

HEY MATE ARE YOU THICK IN THE HEAD?????

Your Question,

Since you are such a big supporter, you should
be able to explain how it could be maintained
mathematically.Contact Phone Number: 206-888-2058 CALL THEM AND ASK

Of course, you are quickly proving incapable
of answering simple questions.Contact Phone Number: 206-888-2058 CALL THEM AND ASK

As soon as you answer the question about
which federal agency "approved" of the scam
and provide evidence of such approval, we
can move forward.
Today 04:43 AM Contact Phone Number: 206-888-2058 CALL THEM AND ASK!!! im not waisting a phone call from Australia to get the exact details for you and this negative site for failures,

Contact Phone Number: 206-888-2058

Teaminator LLC is a Delaware Corporation
c/o The Delaware Company, USA
The Naaman’s Building, Suite 206
3501 Silverside Rd.
Wilmington, DE 19810

So you had nothing to say about those other programs with matrixes hey??? thanks for the silent approval,

look i have a life and im just the small fry in this program and not the spokesman so CALL THEM and ask your questions BUT You WONT will you,

I DARE YOU TO RING TEAMINATOR and ask them anything you want BUT YOU ARE SCARED,

DID YOU REALISE IF YOU RUNG THEM about the feds and matrix with your questions you could post their scammy lies on here, That is the only way you can win unless they are shut down so it looks like you'l be playing the waiting game hey,

SO I WILL TELL YOU ONCE MORE IF YOU WANT TO KNOW GO TO THE SOURCE AND CALL, YOU HAVE THE NUMBER,

GOODNIGHT and im sorry for your wife

PEACE

dre77

p.s. poor people think they know it all

[mercinary]

HEY MATE ARE YOU THICK IN THE HEAD?????

Your Question,

Since you are such a big supporter, you should
be able to explain how it could be maintained
mathematically.Contact Phone Number: 206-888-2058 CALL THEM AND ASK

Of course, you are quickly proving incapable
of answering simple questions.Contact Phone Number: 206-888-2058 CALL THEM AND ASK

As soon as you answer the question about
which federal agency "approved" of the scam
and provide evidence of such approval, we
can move forward.
Today 04:43 AM Contact Phone Number: 206-888-2058 CALL THEM AND ASK!!! im not waisting a phone call from Australia to get the exact details for you and this negative site for failures,

Contact Phone Number: 206-888-2058

Teaminator LLC is a Delaware Corporation
c/o The Delaware Company, USA
The Naaman’s Building, Suite 206
3501 Silverside Rd.
Wilmington, DE 19810

So you had nothing to say about those other programs with matrixes hey??? thanks for the silent approval,

look i have a life and im just the small fry in this program and not the spokesman so CALL THEM and ask your questions BUT You WONT will you,

I DARE YOU TO RING TEAMINATOR and ask them anything you want BUT YOU ARE SCARED,

DID YOU REALISE IF YOU RUNG THEM about the feds and matrix with your questions you could post their scammy lies on here, That is the only way you can win unless they are shut down so it looks like you'l be playing the waiting game hey,

SO I WILL TELL YOU ONCE MORE IF YOU WANT TO KNOW GO TO THE SOURCE AND CALL, YOU HAVE THE NUMBER,

GOODNIGHT and im sorry for your wife

PEACE

Andre

p.s. poor people think they know it all


Dre,

This is your only warning. It is against our forum rules to personally attack anyone. Blatent violation of this rule again in these forums will result in a permenant ban from this website.

Your comments are welcome here, as long as they remain within the forum rules. If you are unfamiliar with the rules, please read them.

-Merc

[dre77]

sorry Merc and serf first time here today and i didnt read any rules,

PEACE

Goodnight from Australia

[surfer]

BE FAIR AND COMMENT AND ASK QU BUT THIS IS NO SCAM AND THAT IS WHAT I WANTED TO PROVE AND IM YET TO SEE PROOF THAT IT IS A SCAM SO HAD I NOTHING TO PROVE ANYWAY,

You tell us to ask questions and then your only
answer is to give us a phone number to call.

Our proof is always in the math. For a 2X2 matrix
to continue beyond 20 or 30 levels and be successful
for everyone, you need more positions than there are
people on the planet.

Sounds to me like you simply took someone's
word that they invited some federal agency in,
or made it up. If not, where's the proof you
say you are here to give?

Very few make profit in these pyramid schemes,
but they are marketed with a bunch of hype to
con people into believing everyone will make
money. Whether the products are viable or not,
the biggest problem I have is with how these
things are marketed.

No silent approval for the other matrix based
opportunities you posted. I was simply waiting
for you to provide the proof you claim to be
offering about The TEAMinator.

I've heard of a couple of them. They are
primarily recruiting based where there is little
to no actual sales of the product outside the
distributor base. People only purchase for
the biz opp, most lose money, then quit.

[weirdid]

dre77,

get yourself a cool 4X and think about funding for people that cycle, if the only sorce of funds is from members, how can everyone be a winner like you.

If your a winner, it means that other members have lost money, its that simple.

Think about it.


weird

[websurfer03101]

HEY MATE ARE YOU THICK IN THE HEAD?????

Your Question,

Since you are such a big supporter, you should
be able to explain how it could be maintained
mathematically.Contact Phone Number: 206-888-2058 CALL THEM AND ASK

Of course, you are quickly proving incapable
of answering simple questions.Contact Phone Number: 206-888-2058 CALL THEM AND ASK

As soon as you answer the question about
which federal agency "approved" of the scam
and provide evidence of such approval, we
can move forward.
Today 04:43 AM Contact Phone Number: 206-888-2058 CALL THEM AND ASK!!! im not waisting a phone call from Australia to get the exact details for you and this negative site for failures,

Contact Phone Number: 206-888-2058

Teaminator LLC is a Delaware Corporation
c/o The Delaware Company, USA
The Naaman’s Building, Suite 206
3501 Silverside Rd.
Wilmington, DE 19810

So you had nothing to say about those other programs with matrixes hey??? thanks for the silent approval,

look i have a life and im just the small fry in this program and not the spokesman so CALL THEM and ask your questions BUT You WONT will you,

I DARE YOU TO RING TEAMINATOR and ask them anything you want BUT YOU ARE SCARED,

DID YOU REALISE IF YOU RUNG THEM about the feds and matrix with your questions you could post their scammy lies on here, That is the only way you can win unless they are shut down so it looks like you'l be playing the waiting game hey,

SO I WILL TELL YOU ONCE MORE IF YOU WANT TO KNOW GO TO THE SOURCE AND CALL, YOU HAVE THE NUMBER,

GOODNIGHT and im sorry for your wife

PEACE

Andre

p.s. poor people think they know it all

Funny how when you do a search on that for number it comes up with no results. Also when you try to call that number you have to leave a message and they'll call you back. When someone calls you back it is a number that is listed outside the US and it is a stolen/hijacked number. I don't know many legit businesses that have to do that. It doesn't matter how much money you and everyone makes. Matrixes, Ponzi, and etc. are illeagal. That has been proven many times in the court of law. We here at Matrix.org did not seek you out. You sought us. You tolad us it is legal and legit but can't back it up. You tell us we have to do your work and call this number. Well I did and it didn't work. What excuse are you going to try now? It's simple provide some proof. This will make you right and we'll all admit we're wrong.

[jokach]

Contact Phone Number: 206-888-2058

Teaminator LLC is a Delaware Corporation
c/o The Delaware Company, USA
The Naaman’s Building, Suite 206
3501 Silverside Rd.
Wilmington, DE 19810


Let me just make a comment on that area code 206 phone number provided by dre77 in support of his favorite scam. The 206 area code is in Seattle, Washington, but their "corporate" offices are in Delaware, thats funny, do they think people are stupid ..... let me explain ...

The 206 area code phone number they provided was provided for 'free' using a free internet VOIP service called k7.net. Go there and signup for a free mailbox or fax account, you'll see you can get a 206 area code number as well. I encourage everyone to do some research on these 206-888, etc phone numbers, and you'll find that they are used by spammers and scammers so they cannot be traced. The reality is, they can be traced, its just a little more difficult.

Why do they have to mislead people by providing a FAKE corporate phone number? If they are so honest, where are the real corporate offices, or aren't there any real offices and is this some scam being run from somebodys garage? I think someone needs to make an explanation, because they are telling people to CALL THIS NUMBER, but they KNOW that nobody is home ......... :head:

jokach

ps - this is the reason why websurfer03101 couldn't find ANY information on this number, and got NO answer when he called it .........

[jokach]

Oh, and also, the corporate offices for your scam seem to be sharing the same offices as inbox.com, that must be VERY BIG SUITE 206 in that building ... that seems real odd:


INBOX.COM, INC
3501 SILVERSIDE RD STE 206 NAAMANS BUILDING
WILMINGTON, DE 19810
US

Domain Name: INBOX.COM

Administrative Contact:
Dusan Pevny webmaster@inbox.com
INBOX.COM, INC
3501 SILVERSIDE RD STE 206 NAAMANS BUILDING
WILMINGTON, DE 19810-4910
US
Phone: 1-800-544-8000
Fax:
Technical Contact:
Dusan Pevny webmaster@inbox.com
INBOX.COM, INC
3501 SILVERSIDE RD STE 206 NAAMANS BUILDING
WILMINGTON, DE 19810-4910
US
Phone: 1-800-544-8000
Fax:
Billing Contact:
Dusan Pevny webmaster@inbox.com
INBOX.COM, INC
3501 SILVERSIDE RD STE 206 NAAMANS BUILDING
WILMINGTON, DE 19810-4910
US
Phone: 1-800-544-8000
Fax:

Record updated on 2005-04-25 20:15:31
Record created on 1995-04-16
Record expires on 2008-04-17
Database last updated on 2005-09-15 19:34:53 EST

Domain servers in listed order:

NS0.DNSMADEEASY.COM 63.219.151.3
NS1.DNSMADEEASY.COM 205.234.154.1
NS2.DNSMADEEASY.COM 66.117.40.198
NS3.DNSMADEEASY.COM 216.129.109.1
NS4.DNSMADEEASY.COM 69.26.190.254

TransferGuard LOCK Status => ENABLED


So why, oh why, would an honest business lie about its corporate office and its phone number .......... its weird though, teaminator.com has blocked its whois information, I wonder why, because maybe we'll find out who is really profiting from this scam?

Somebody who supports this scam needs to explain these inconsistencies .... anyone?

jokach

[websurfer03101]

Hey jockitch this person is gone and we'll never see them again, because we out-ed them. I can see where they could fool someone but to come here and try to fool some of you folks. Without even really trying we found out some of their suspicious activities already. I am really getting sick of these clowns trying to rip everyone off. It's not just on the web. I work at Staples and you should see some of the scams people try. Not just fake credit cards, checks, and etc. They'll buy something with a rebate. Return the item in a few weeks for full value. We'll Staples can track that now, so those rebates will be declined. Then with coupons (coupons for frequent shoppers), they'll print out multiples and give them out to all their buddies. Staples fixed that, all coupons now have individual numbers. Once it has been used, it is no longer valid. I even had one customer make up a web page that mimicked Staples.com and change the price on a computer. His first mistake was that instead of having the price like $50-$100 cheaper he got greedy and had the price for a $1,400 computer at $50. The bottom of his web page print out even said www.geocities.com/(whatever his username was). Did he not think I was going to check it out? He got so mad after I discovered his lie out that a 1/2 hour later he came back with his laptop and showed me the web page and it said www.geocities.com/ (whatever his username was). Meanwhile the manager called the police, they arrested him. It was a long weekend so he spent the weekend in jail, had to get a lawyer, pay court fines and now has a record. Another customer showed me a (fake) coupon that was for $100 off a $50 purchase. Sorry to rant but what is this world coming to. If people spent half the time they do scamming in doing things legit, they could have everything they wanted.

[surfer]

If people spent half the time they do scamming in doing things legit, they could have everything they wanted.

:applause:

All this stuff makes me sick. And most of them
are here and gone so fast nothing can really be
done.

Too many scammers and not enough manpower
to shut them down. :head:

At least site like Matrix Watch help prevent a
few people from being sucked in.

[dre77]

People have to protect there identity sometimes for there own good,

I did not sort out this site i just read a thread and felt i should stand up for this program because it is legal and no scam and has not been shut down but then the losers who are not members and dont know how the program works thought they'd reply and comment and tell me what this program is about and how it cant work,

Well guess what they just made a 6 figure payment to members today, yes thats right 6 figures, jokes on you guys, with that kind of money around and being in the USA dont you think this would have been shut down by now if it wasnt legal????

did you leave a message????? if you did you will be called back but you didnt have the balls,

infact please dont call as we dont need people like you as this site is just for people who lost out and want to hang around other losers and with all this negativity and hearsay you guys will never move forward in anything, is this all you guys do allday? WEBSURFER I am much too busy to post here everyday so dont ever think im gone as im out there enjoying life and i have a job, so now your calling me a scammer, that is funny, and now you think you and your crew teaminated me out of matrix watch, im not getting anything out of this and never will and it would be to my advantage to never come back here again, i dont care about your sh###ty staple job or the scam which you love telling everyone, Websurfer if you put as much effort in in finding quality programs then talking crap about scams you would actually benefit a whole lot more, cant you see that, this is getting you no-where

EVERYONE is a winner at teaminator at this moment(i cant predict the future) as its main feature is to advertise programs and whenever a member advertises he gets paid later and i am the only dumb teaminator member who wastes his time here,

everymember keeps paying over and over and over again + the subsciption and that is how the prc matrix works and HOW EVERYONE WINS, and i say prc matrix not their 2x2 matrix, the prc matrix is being fed constantly by money so it cant dry up and again when the person gets paid at the front he then goes to the back and so on, perpetual motion, never ending!

NO RECRUITING required to win in prc matrix,

So Surfer you have heard of a couple of those programs hey??? people are buying for the product and the bizop and MY ONLY POINT HERE was that their matrixes work and are legal and PAY! so dont start covering yourself by going into other aspects of the program and saying that their recruiting based and people join for the bizop and quit, this is lying--you dont know anything about those other programs and if i was like you i would ask you for statistics on each of those programs but hey i'll keep it easy for you, again here you have nothin,

jokach

Look i came to just let you know that teaminator is legal and is not a scam,

i dont care about the domain name or the email address or the phone number or any of that crap, i just dont have time so again just leave your message and let your questions be answered instead of assuming what you think and posting it on here, but again i say please dont call as we are skyrocketing and dont want to be bogged down by The Scam Hysteria Movement,

i will at a later stage be posting about pips in the pips forum as asic in australia found nothing on them and i will later post why they dont like pips and who are the people behind this, hehe i bet just this paragraph gets some replys so cmon lets go but please in the pips forum, this is for teaminator,

I will post back in the next few days and this has been kind of fun but really there is nothing here for me to benefit from replying to all you people, what programs do any of you recommend? i'd like to hear as that way i might benefit from something POSITIVE,


PEACE

DRE

[surfer]

lol lol

All that typing and you still can't answer a
simple question.

What federal agency gave "approval" and
where's the proof that this was done?

You made the comment. Now back it up.
Such a grand statement should be easily
verified if you know it to be true.

We know it's a lie.

[websurfer03101]

Not once did I personally attack you. But you felt the need to personally attack me and others. We asked you a simple question and you can't or won't answer it. All you do is resort to name calling every time. Not once have you answered a question. For one, I do have a great job. I actually like working where I do and when I finish school I'll move on to something else. I take pride in the fact that I don't have to rely on trying to scam someone to get money. Why does it bother you, it has no effect on you. How would you know it is a crappy job. After all you said you lived in Australia. There are no Staples there. You would have to have visited one to find out. Knowing this info now, do you really live in Australia or do I have to call a number to find out?Mmmmm. I actually did leave a message. That is how I found out the info I did. Second, you say you're not getting anything out of this, but you are a member. That is what you said in an earlier post. Either way there is a lie there. You are not getting anything out of it even though you said members are getting paid or you’re getting paid so you ARE getting something out of this. Third you said two members asked for refunds and got them, but yet in the TOS it says absolutely no refunds. Forth you say call the number and you'll get answers. That again is a lie. No answers just a FAKE voice recording saying they will call back (They can't even use a real persons voice, just a computer generated one). Then you say don't call them. Is this because we found out some things you didn't want us to know. Fifth, absolutely no legit company has to or wants to hide their identity. They want people to know who they are. Sixth, Matrixes are illegal. This is has been proven in a court of law. Why doesn't PayPal and others allow Matrixes to use them as processors? Ebay doesn't allow for them either. Sixth, I did not lose money from matrixes, because I did some research and also found Matrixwatch.com. Seventh, we've shown how matrixes don't work with simple math but you can't show us how your program works. Why? Eighth, just because something makes money doesn't make it legal. Someone who deals coke or meth can make huge money, but it doesn't make it legal. Lastly this is a positive place. It helped me and others from getting scammed. It also provides others the resources for when they do get scammed. Maybe I’m wrong, but the last time I checked helping others is a positive thing.

And another thing, don’t PM me no more.

[surfer]

And another thing, don’t PM me no more.
Shucks, I feel left out. He didn't PM me. lol

[AvidA]

infact please dont call as we dont need people like you as this site is just for people who lost out and want to hang around other losers and with all this negativity and hearsay you guys will never move forward in anything, is this all you guys do allday? WEBSURFER I am much too busy to post here everyday so dont ever think im gone as im out there enjoying life and i have a job, so now your calling me a scammer, that is funny, and now you think you and your crew teaminated me out of matrix watch, im not getting anything out of this and never will and it would be to my advantage to never come back here again, i dont care about your sh###ty staple job or the scam which you love telling everyone, Websurfer if you put as much effort in in finding quality programs then talking crap about scams you would actually benefit a whole lot more, cant you see that, this is getting you no-where

Why do you have a job if you have all these quality programs that pay so well and are legit? Dre, if you believe all that you say....boy do I have the programme for you. lol lol lol

[websurfer03101]

What happen to him? He tried to come here and peddle his scam. He couldn't answer any question, so he went running away? :cool:

[zedman]

Hi All:

I came across this site by chance via a Google search on Ingenious Packages. I just read this whole Teaminator thread and will add my comments for the benefit of all.

My friend invited me to join Team. during the prelaunch, so we loaded up our Egold accnts and were ready to hit the 'spend' button at launch. We did so, and made 6 to 7 times back our money in the first 2 weeks. Because we spent in the very first 30 minutes of the launch, this positioned us to make the maximum amount of cycles during Team.'s run.

This was my first time in a cycler, the umpteenth time for my friend, who coached me on how to best play it. I've had several conversations with him on how exactly Team. generates its income, and it is exactly like you guys said: its a internal money cycler. All monies generated come from membership spends. There is no outside investments or real business product of any value that generate sales/income. The only way these things expand is by endless recruiting for new membership monies. Sure there is some software/advertising for sale, but its basically of low/no value. Teaminator, as of this writing, is basically a dead fish. There is really no movement left in any of their money lines ( PRC, Bee line, etc. ).

Teaminator had a lot of hype of how they were different, of how they would be around for years, etc. but they are now just another dropping on the dung-heap of failed cyclers that have come and gone. They were honest, yes, and the admin did try to sincerely create a long-term business of it, but they unfortunately chose the wrong business model. Money-cyclers eventually run into an exponential problem, and they all usually slow or fail eventually.

In conversations with my friend, I mentioned that aren't we only gaining at someone else's expense, and he said, 'yes, its a moral dilemma'. After thinking it over, its no moral dilemma, we did benefit, but someone else had to lose, and I have no pride in that. Its my opinion that the vast majority of people who get into matrixes, cyclers, ponzi's, MLM/matrix/ponzi hybrids, etc., have no real idea of the faulty math underpinning these various money games, which is what all of them are.

Where do we go on from here? For myself, no more cyclers/matrixes/ponzi games for me. For the newbie: do some due diligence, some reading/research, and know what you're really getting involved in before you invest.

Peace, zedman :cool:

[surfer]

Thanks for your feedback zedman.

Yep, looks like dre77s awesome Teaminator program
is grinding to a slow death.

No offense intended to you, but neither your friend
nor the admin of Teaminator are honest.

Since your friend "coached" you, he knows exactly
how these things work. And of course, the admin
knew damn well that only the early members would
profit.

There is nothing honest about launching or joining
a "business" that is guaranteed to fail.

Good luck in whatever your future holds.

[surfer]

I miss Andre. lol lol