Top 1% of all Sites?

[Gringo]

They are claiming here (http://www.stamediakit.com/advantages.htm) Alexa rating. Our sites are consistently in the top ½ of 1% of all trackable sites. Any idea what this claim means or how this claim is supported?

[surfer]

lol lol

More misleading hype, of course.

All based on their Alexa rankings (http://www.alexa.com/data/details/?url=stasite.com). Of course,
anyone who has a clue about Alexa and how
their rankings work know how easily they can
be manipulated for all but the highest rated
sites.

Affiliates are told to load the Alexa toolbar
and make sure they visit the site daily in an
effort to manipulate the stats upwards.

Since there are technically milllions of websites
on the net, their statistic may be correct.

But what value is a falsely inflated Alexa
ranking going to provide to advertisers? lol

Perhaps the new YMMSS slogan is "Fake It
Til You Make It". :rolleyes: :head:

Some rankings for various scam sites that
aren't manipulating their Alexa stats:
Scam.com at 17,116 (http://www.alexa.com/data/details/?url=scam.com)
MatrixWatch.org at 232,709 (http://www.alexa.com/data/details/?url=matrixwatch.org)
FriendsInBusiness.com Scams 101 at 34,091 (http://www.alexa.com/data/details/?url=friendsinbusiness.com)
wwsn-forums.com at 1,112,332 (http://www.alexa.com/data/details/?url=wwsn-forums.com)

[surfer]

Since there are technically milllions of websites
on the net, their statistic may be correct.
I actually meant to say technically correct
if you base it on only Alexa statistics.

In reality, there will be an unbalanced percentage
of visitors to the STASite that have the Alexa
toolbar installed versus the average visitor to
the websites that are not attempting to
manipulate their stats.

[ycchen]

All these hypes are directed towards YMMSS "affiliates" (or donors), and not to the advertisers. Because as surfer has rightly pointed out, any serious advertiser will not buy into all the unprofessional hypes on STA site. In addition, any serious advertiser (except porn site or online casino, I suppose) will find out the liabilities of YMMSS-doubler, and learn that these affiliates are waiting to get pay, and none of them are ready to spend. The funiest thing is these starving affiliates are going to get pay by the "supposely" advertising money.

Just wait and see what advertisers will place thousands or millions of dollar advertisements on STA, then we will see if STA works or not.

Just don't throw more money into STA, you will regret it! 100% garanteed!

[bilim]

There were threads on forum coordinating alexa manipulation.

YMMSS rank is declining. Look at Alexa for last 2 years.

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?&range=2y&size=medium&compare_sites=&y=t&url=ymmss.org#top
Peaked September - October last year. Downhill from there.

[surfer]

There were threads on forum coordinating alexa manipulation.
I know. It's amazing how easily they are
able to distract the forum members from
things that actually matter and how the
affiliates can be led to believe that deliberate
manipulation of the Alexa stats could be
viewed as ethical.
YMMSS rank is declining. Look at Alexa for last 2 years.

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?&range=2y&size=medium&compare_sites=&y=t&url=ymmss.org#top
Peaked September - October last year. Downhill from there.
Yes, the ymmss.org site will continue to
decline because it will be used less and
less.

With very little traffic in the grand scheme
of things, YMForums.com is at 17,395 (http://www.alexa.com/data/details/?url=ymforums.com). The
STASite will never even get that high.

With Alexa, only the top couple thousand
positions, at best, can't be manipulated in the
fashion that the Success Through Advertising
scamsters are using to inflate their rankings.

ycchen made a good point. It's really just
another distraction to keep affiliates minds
busy, since the sites ranking will peak
pretty soon and then start to drop off.

Any advertisers that bite based on the
Alexa rankings aren't very web savvy.

[brenda]

how come they all keep buying epc's

[surfer]

how come they all keep buying epc's
They don't. ;)

Affiliate spends in the ponzi are way down.

I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Monday's
processing produce a "paid" amount of less
than $100K.

It will be extremely interesting to see if they
are going to continue publishing stats for the
amount paid when the new system starts.

If they publish what they are actually paying
out, affiliates will see how inflated "paid" stats
are when using the current method of processing.

Should be interesting.

So much for the "banner month" that Kim claimed
October would be. lol :head: :rolleyes:

[Golfer2]

how come they all keep buying epc's


Because they have been brainwashed... They are addicted to buying EPC's :head:

[brenda]

what if they all keep buying epcs and nobody has any money to support the retailers? is the new retail site that they are going to start, going to be available to the general public so there will be more customers than just the members? i sure hope so, because all of my friends are still stuck in there and cant get out.

[surfer]

what if they all keep buying epcs and nobody has any money to support the retailers?
YMMSS was heavily marketed to the doubler/
HYIP crowd. They are loyal only to themselves
and are not going to be supporting any wannabe
advertising business.

You see enough sob stories about people being
on the edge of ruin to know that many of these
people are not really internet shoppers. They
are opportunity seekers.
is the new retail site that they are going to start, going to be available to the general public so there will be more customers than just the members? i sure hope so, because all of my friends are still stuck in there and cant get out.
Yes, the new site will be public. But so what.
That would only matter if they could generate
enough non-affiliate traffic to have much impact
on the RFA.

You'll have a few capable affiliates driving traffic,
but never enough to feed thousands of starving
affiliates.

Even though EPC purchases have slowed to a
crawl versus what they were one year ago, each
EPC purchased is still a future liability for YMMSS/
Success Through Advertising.

I don't know what size positions your friends
bought brenda, or how long ago they bought them,
but they are going to have quite a wait before
they get into any profit, if it ever happens.

[ycchen]

I don't know what size positions your friends bought brenda, or how long ago they bought them, but they are going to have quite a wait before they get into any profit, if it ever happens.
No, it won't happen. (note: Profit = payout > money invested)

If you want to know how a professional ponzi players think about the profitability of STA, go to moneymakergroup.com and ask the "habitual speculators" if they will put any money into STA at this moment. The answer will be no.

Why? The anwer should be very simple: too late.

The YMMSS/STA game is over. It is a dead ponzi and no rational people with a rational mind would bet on a a dead ponzi for a return of investment (i.e. profit).