Report MYDV for VAT evasion!

[mercinary]

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Has anyone reported MYDV to UK Customs for VAT evasion? Consider contacting this agency at the above addresses. I am from the US, but after doing some surfing, this appears to be the right avenue. If it is not, please post details for the correct contact.

If you contact this agency, and have luck getting a response, please share that response with us here in this thread!

-Merc

[nickcharlton]

The problem with reporting mydv for tax evasion, is that customs and excise will come after the consumer to pay the VAT and Import duty, not Nepco.

I'm not sure this would be a good idea for anyone.

[concerned]

The problem with reporting mydv for tax evasion, is that customs and excise will come after the consumer to pay the VAT and Import duty, not Nepco.

I'm not sure this would be a good idea for anyone.

Don't you have a contract that states that mydv will cover those costs? Does the website clearly state that? I think if you have that, then you can say that you already paid you part by paying mydv according to the contract. I don't know anything about UK customs, but I would think this would stand somewhere.

[mercinary]

Don't you have a contract that states that mydv will cover those costs? Does the website clearly state that?

I remember that in one of these threads someone quoted either the MYDV website or a MYDV representitive that said just this. They (MYDV) are covering the VAT taxes. I'll fish around for a link to that post.

EDIT:The post I was looking for is here:

http://www.matrixwatch.org/forums/showpost.php?p=30520&postcount=27

-Merc

[concerned]

I knew I heard that. Thanks for finding that Merc. If that is the case, they will probably go after DHL, and they have the money to buy high dollar lawyers to go after mydv. I agree with Merc. You should report them for VAT evasion.

[nickcharlton]

Knowing how customs and excise work, they will make it the consumers problem and it will be up to us to get a refund from Nepco.

Also there is little point in reporting mydv, as they aren't the people sending the products.

[Arzel]

Knowing how customs and excise work, they will make it the consumers problem and it will be up to us to get a refund from Nepco.

Also there is little point in reporting mydv, as they aren't the people sending the products.

I disagree.

Although DHL was the primary shipper, and may be responsible, it is myDV that is reporting the value to DHL as being $100. DHL is a worldwide shipper, and from my experience quite reputable. If they get nailed for VAT evasion you can be sure they will slap myDV with a huge lawsuit, and it will be myDV that is ultimately responsible for their misrepresentation.

The consumer should have nothing to fear, as they have done nothing wrong. It is not their responsibility to pay for VAT in this situation, especially since the vast majority (if not all) believed they were purchasing from a UK company in which VAT would not even be an issue, and those charges should be assumed to be included.

Futhermore, it should be up to myDV to provide this information to the consumer (if they were required to pay VAT) knowning that they would be shipping product to a company which would require the VAT. Additionally, since the products have been listed to DHL as having a value of $100 it is clear that myDV is fully aware of this issue and is attempting to avoid any responsibility.

I think every way you look at it myDV is responsible.

[nickcharlton]

myDV is not sending the product nor is it Nepco.

The company writing the commercial invoices is Kuehne + Nagel. Which is the distributor for Nepco.

The best way stop myDV trading is complaining to google.

[you muppets]

I totally agree, if you want to stop MyDv, Google holds the key.

[diesel123]

Definitely!! I bet thats where a hudge majority of people had found the site, thats where i found it, i cant even find it on kelkoo any more.

[mercinary]

I totally agree, if you want to stop MyDv, Google holds the key.

I think you all area thinking one-dimensionally. There are MANY avenues to take on the MYDV front. People have already made mass-complaints to the Attorney General in MA. People have reported this to news agencies. People have reported this to their local police. People have reported this to the FBI. We could go on an on, but the point is that the more fronts you attack on, the better chance you all have at halting this companies fraudulent practice!

We (M.W.) have been advising customers regarding fraud for close to three years now...consider taking our advice on this one. Try just emailing to the above agency, and ask them who would be responsible if a "hypothetical" situation like this happened!

-Merc

[redmist1]

say i buy 10 PC's from Dell, and i pay VAT on this purchase, i am then allowed to resell the computers without VAT if i am not VAT registered. if you are VAT registered then you must charge VAT to your customers unless the product you are selling falls under those that are excluded e.g. childrens shoes, flyer printing....
i dont know anything about mydv, but they may fall under the above category and therefore do not have to charge VAT to their customers.

[nickcharlton]

Mydv is an American company, so it doesn't have to pay.

[BobC]

Originally Posted by Arzel
The consumer should have nothing to fear, as they have done nothing wrong. It is not their responsibility to pay for VAT in this situation, especially since the vast majority (if not all) believed they were purchasing from a UK company in which VAT would not even be an issue, and those charges should be assumed to be included.

I agree but since when has HM Revenue & Customs accepted ignorance as an excuse?

The following from
HM Revenue & Customs (http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalWebApp/channelsPortalWebApp.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pageTravel_ShowContent&propertyType=document&resetCT=true&id=HMCE_CL_001454)

"...... You should be aware that although the foreign sender may have completed the customs declaration form on the parcel you are regarded (in law) as the importer of the goods and responsible for the information on the declaration, and any customs charges that may be due. This means that if you purchase goods from these suppliers and the declaration is found to be false or misleading you may be liable to financial penalties or criminal prosecution. Furthermore the goods themselves will be liable to forfeiture. It is in your own interests to ensure Customs declarations are completed properly."

It would appear from posts by others in this forum that MyDv routinely and deliberately underdeclare the value of goods on the customs declaration.

Most customers don't know that their goods will be imported.

If it is the case as has been reported, that MyDv covers the cost of import charges, who stands to benefit and who stands to lose?

Yet another, source of anxiety for the customers of MyDv and an example of their crass disregard for those customers.

[mercinary]

I guess I'm still waiting for someone to at least try emailing the Rev. & Customs office to ask about this scenario. Until someone gets a clear response from them, this is all just conjecture.

-Merc

[Arzel]

I agree but since when has HM Revenue & Customs accepted ignorance as an excuse?

The following from
HM Revenue & Customs (http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalWebApp/channelsPortalWebApp.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pageTravel_ShowContent&propertyType=document&resetCT=true&id=HMCE_CL_001454)

"...... You should be aware that although the foreign sender may have completed the customs declaration form on the parcel you are regarded (in law) as the importer of the goods and responsible for the information on the declaration, and any customs charges that may be due. This means that if you purchase goods from these suppliers and the declaration is found to be false or misleading you may be liable to financial penalties or criminal prosecution. Furthermore the goods themselves will be liable to forfeiture. It is in your own interests to ensure Customs declarations are completed properly."

It would appear from posts by others in this forum that MyDv routinely and deliberately underdeclare the value of goods on the customs declaration.

Most customers don't know that their goods will be imported, because of the deception that is the MyDv website.

If it is the case as has been reported, that MyDv covers the cost of import charges, who stands to benefit and who stands to lose?

Yet another, source of anxiety for the customers of MyDv and an example of their crass disregard for those customers.

I think you should take into consideration that myDV is representing itself as a UK company. At no place on their website do they give the impression that they are not a UK company. Why should the consumer feel guilty for doing NOTHING wrong. myDV is blatently missrepresenting itself as a UK company. Therefore, the consumer should have nothing to worry about. The issue of VAT would not even come up becuase there is no implication that the buyer is purchasing something which would require VAT.

[BobC]

I think you should take into consideration that myDV is representing itself as a UK company. At no place on their website do they give the impression that they are not a UK company. Why should the consumer feel guilty for doing NOTHING wrong. myDV is blatently missrepresenting itself as a UK company. Therefore, the consumer should have nothing to worry about. The issue of VAT would not even come up becuase there is no implication that the buyer is purchasing something which would require VAT.


I don't suggest the consumer should feel guilty at all and I thoroughly agree MyDV is wholly responsible for this and should immediately be stopped from deceiving consumers through their website.

[jokach]

By any chance, does anybody have a copy of the label from the box they received when they ordered from mydv, listing the contents as being worth only $100 when indeed it was listed as more?

I can't say exactly why i'm asking (make your own assumption), but if anybody has one, and can scan it and email it to jokach@matrixwatch.org, i'd really appreciate it.

jokach