computerpipeline.net

[uwantme]

Well you may be wondering why i am posting all these sites. I had a little extra time today and our satillite is out on our TV cause of storms, So went researching on all the sites I could remember that were open around the time of ezexpo to see how they have changed and progressed. I was quite surprised. Out of 10 sites that were opened around the same time as ezexpo only 1 was actually gone. The rest were still kicking and thriving it looked like. I have ran across several different business structures and those are what i am posting. On this site: http://www.computerpipeline.net/

I think it runs back to the haircut , subway aurgument. You can earn you laptop 2 ways. 1. wait till your at the top pf the list and another 57 join or 2. earn 67 points. You earn points by buying other e-books, programs, and by saling the e-books. So technically option 2 is just like the subway analogy because you dont have to wait until your the top and cycling is not based on the pruchases of others. You can make the points you need in several ways..

Now I would like to hear your thoughts on this...

[uwantme]

Originally posted by uwantme
On this site: http://www.computerpipeline.net/

I think it runs back to the haircut , subway aurgument. You can earn you laptop 2 ways. 1. wait till your at the top pf the list and another 57 join or 2. earn 67 points. You earn points by buying other e-books, programs, and by selling the e-books. So technically option 2 is just like the subway analogy because you dont have to wait until your the top and cycling is not based on the purchases of others. You can make the points you need yourself with sales for yourself you by selling to others and there is no waiting for others to cycle first...

Now I would like to hear your thoughts on this...

Just waiting for a response on this...

[tcb1969a]

I looked at the site, and that is quite an interesting concept. I don't see anything wrong with it right off hand, but I'm sure someone probably will.....

[MatrixWatch]

I posted a criteria for the FAQ page in my response to your questions on learn2compute.net. So, check out the FAQ page for computerpipeline.net and think through it...

[uwantme]

I was refering to the debate about the subway haircut arguement. Because the reasons you guys stated it was differemt was because you made all the purchases for the free sub, haircut, and you didnt have to rely on others for purchases or wait to get to the top to cycle. Well in you choose option 2 on this website you are responsible for getting you free laptop by buying more e-books to earn points, or selling the e-books to other people to earn points and you do not have to wauit until you are at the top or anything like that. So it is just like the subway or haircut program. I was waiting for someone to tell me how it is different, etc...

[MatrixWatch]

You are mistaken about this site you have brought up, and I have already told you to read their FAQ page. It clearly states:


Do I have to promote this site to receive my laptop?

No. There are no requirements what so ever saying that you have to promote our site. However, if you do promote this site, which is completely up to you, we've have an incredible affiliate program which can help you receive your laptop even quicker. If you don't promote our site, you simply wait until you're our Top Affiliate. After your name has reached the top of the Affiliate Laptop Pipeline, meaning you're our oldest member, you simply wait for Computer Pipeline or other affiliates of Computer Pipeline to sell 57 of our ebooks for you! Once you've either earned or received for free 57 successful affiliate points, we'll mail you your laptop without delay.

So, it costs you money to get into this "affiliate" program and then you have to wait until you get to the top of a list. Structured exactly like an illegal lottery.

[MatrixWatch]

these sites you bring up are interesting though. Do you have any more?

[uwantme]

This is what is says on their homepage, maybe their FAQ wasnt updated:

Keep promoting Computer Pipeline with your affiliate URL link and either wait until you've accrued 67 affiliate points or wait until Computer Pipeline and it's affiliates gives you 57 free affiliate points.

For each successful purchase of our e-book using your affiliate URL link, you will receive one affiliate point towards your free Vaio Laptop. Once you have earned 67 points, we'll send you your brand new laptop without delay. Best of all, we do not charge you shipping or handling! Keep reading to learn how our affiliates can receive a laptop without doing any promoting!

or....

Once you are our top affiliate, simply wait for Computer Pipeline or other affiliates to sell 57 e-booksfor you. Computer Pipeline gives each"Top Affiliate" one point for every e-book sold using their banners and advertisements and other affiliates give their first 10 points to the top affiliate at the time.

When you're our top affiliate, you'll be earning points without doing any promoting at all and best of all, once you're our "Top Affiliate," you only need 57 affiliate points instead of 67 in order to receive your laptop!


So I would assume you can go either route or having that stated so boldly on their homepage could get them in massive trouble, so the subway haircut aurguement would still apply here..

[FightingBack]

Yes I would also have to agree. But say you take option 2 and you decide to buy some ebooks and sell them to get points, do the customers that buy the ebooks from you get into this site? Or are they simply just buying an ebook for what's inside it?

[concerned]

These are still classic pyramid schemes/ponzi schemes/illegal lotteries because they STILL rely on others buying into the scheme. Even if you are an affiliate, all you are doing is joining in and asking other people to buy something. It still depends on OTHERS buying something, and not only that, but others buying after you.

Let's put the subway thing to rest once and for all. Let's say it is buy 3 get one free.

YOU buy a sub on 1/1/2000

I buy a sub on 1/10/2000

I buy two more subs on 1/11/2000 I recieve free sub

SAM buys a sub on 1/30/2000

Sam buys a sub on 2/1/2000

YOU buy a sub on 2/3/2000

SAM buys a sub on 2/10/2000 SAM recieves free sub

YOU buy a sub on 2/11/2000 YOU recieve free sub


As you see, it only matters what you buy, not others. Lets look at it the way a matrix works.

YOU buy a sub on 1/1/2000

I buy a sub on 1/10/2000

I buy two more subs on 1/11/2000 YOU recieve free sub

I sold SAM a sub on 1/30/2000

Sam buys a sub on 2/1/2000 I recieve free sub

YOU buy a sub on 2/3/2000

SAM buys a sub on 2/10/2000

YOU buy a sub on 2/11/2000 I recieve another free sub

What happened to SAM? We all bought three subs each, but in the first scenario, we each got a free sub. In the matrix scenarion, YOU got 1 free sub, and I got two free subs. SAM didn't get a free sub. That doesn't seem fair to SAM. SAM got screwed out of his free sub.

[uwantme]

What everyone seems oblivoius is to is that is exactly the way their program works if you choose number2 method to earn your laptop. Quit looking at it like every other matrix site and actually go to this site and read how their program works if you choose the 2 methid to earn your laptop. It is the same thing as the subway method. The way you earn your laptop is by buying other e-books for from their library. Each purchase you make earns you points. Or if you get others to purchase e-books from theri library that earns you points too. when you have accumilated enough points you get the free laptop. This is just like the subway. each sub you buy earns you a stamp(point) when you accumilate enough stamps through your sub purchases(e-books) you get a free sub(laptop) this site gives you the option of waiting in line to cycle or earning it in the same system subway uses for its free subs.....

[concerned]

Originally posted by uwantme
What everyone seems oblivoius is to is that is exactly the way their program works if you choose number2 method to earn your laptop. Quit looking at it like every other matrix site and actually go to this site and read how their program works if you choose the 2 methid to earn your laptop. It is the same thing as the subway method. The way you earn your laptop is by buying other e-books for from their library. Each purchase you make earns you points. Or if you get others to purchase e-books from theri library that earns you points too. when you have accumilated enough points you get the free laptop. This is just like the subway. each sub you buy earns you a stamp(point) when you accumilate enough stamps through your sub purchases(e-books) you get a free sub(laptop) this site gives you the option of waiting in line to cycle or earning it in the same system subway uses for its free subs.....

Are you not paying attention. I did explain myself. Do I need to go into more detail?

OK, let's say that I have a friend that has never eaten at subway. I take them to subway, and tell the clerk that this person has never eaten here before, and they want to try it out. In actuality, I was promoting subway to my friend. Subway then gives the stamps to my friend, NOT to me. In your case, the person who does the refering gets the points, not the new customer. The person is still relying on others buying into the system, or they will have to buy $2500 worth of ebooks to get a $2000 laptop. It would be cheaper to just buy the laptop.

[uwantme]

It doesnt matter which is cheaper. The method 2 does not rely on bringing new customers in on the system if they can earn all the points they need by making the purchases themselves. The same number of purchases apply to all who join whether your number 1 or number 1000 if and when you earn 67 points with your purchase you get your laptop. Just like with the subway stamps.