Applematrix.com

[MatrixWatch]

What happened to Apple Matrix?

[uwantme]

supposedly they were suspended from their hosting for 72 hours due to spam complaints

[Gowen32]

I hope that's all. They are a good site, but just the spamming sucked. I don't even know why they did it in the first place.

[sigx97]

They will be back up Monday.

[Gowen32]

That's good to hear. I hope they stop spamming now. LoL I just don't want them to go back down again.

[MatrixWatch]

Applematrix is back up at a new URL with a new site design.

http://www.applematrix.us

[mikv]

A new worse attitude. Adrianna has been on other forums letting the matrix world know they are "back with a vengeance". She is still bashing other owners and customers alike for reporting her spamming. She says she will still do it. It doesn't seem like she got the message that it's wrong to spam. She feels that since she illegally purchased a listing with a few hundred email addresses (mine included), that it's alright to email them as much as she wants. That site has lost it's focus and will be going downhill even faster is she continues with this outlook on business.

[concerned]

Originally posted by mikv
A new worse attitude. Adrianna has been on other forums letting the matrix world know they are "back with a vengeance". She is still bashing other owners and customers alike for reporting her spamming. She says she will still do it. It doesn't seem like she got the message that it's wrong to spam. She feels that since she illegally purchased a listing with a few hundred email addresses (mine included), that it's alright to email them as much as she wants. That site has lost it's focus and will be going downhill even faster is she continues with this outlook on business.

That is why I started the thread, "Very BAD Matrix Business Practices" Take a look at that thread. (Link Below)

http://www.matrixwatch.org/forums/showthread.php?threadid=254


I started that thread in response to MysticX23 who is a strong matrix supporter. He was saying how great that site and sublimematrix.com was. The first post in my thread has that quote.

This kind of illustrates one of Watchdog's arguments. According to a matrix supporter, this WAS a GOOD site, but after struggling, it has become a BAD site.

Actually, I always thought this was a VERY bad site as far as matrix sites are concerned.

[MatrixWatch]

It is an observation that I haven't seen elsewhere. When a matrix site closes down, everyone in the matrix community calls the owner a "crook", "scam artist", "thief", "liar", etc. But when that site opened up and the lists were new, everyone thought it was the greatest thing. Now, what is it that makes a matrix site last for a few months and then crash? In my opinion, it was the structure that the site was based on. Once the matrix concept takes a turn for the worst, the owners freak because it is mathematically impossible to get it back under control. It is like an out-of-control airplane that is crashing, and the pilot bails out! Since we have a few genius mathematicians here at Matrix Watch, I have considered launching a new section where "crashing" site owners can come to get help on how to manage their lists mathematically in order "land the plane softly" and avoid the persecution that an ex-site owner receives, but I doubt that it will be necessary since the lawsuits will hopefully take care of the customers well enough.

But back on topic... I would like the owners of Applematrix to come here and tell their story about how they were reported for spamming by ANOTHER MATRIX SITE! Perhaps they could tell us which site(s)?

[Adrianna]

I'm willing to answer any question from you guys. But I shouldn't be in the site closure section!

[concerned]

Originally posted by Adrianna
I'm willing to answer any question from you guys. But I shouldn't be in the site closure section!

Then go to this thread.

http://www.matrixwatch.org/forums/s...hp?threadid=254

And, by the way, it is appropriate, since technically, you did close without notice for a couple of days.

[MatrixWatch]

I have not been able to access Applematrix for the past 24 hours from either of their sites:

applematrix.us
applematrix.com

Anyone know what's up?

[concerned]

Originally posted by watchdog
I have not been able to access Applematrix for the past 24 hours from either of their sites:

applematrix.us
applematrix.com

Anyone know what's up?


Well, you can find it here, but it doesn't mean anything.

http://www.dayscar.com/applematrix/0start.asp

She could have had a DNS problem, or she could have been suspended for spamming AGAIN. She could have just run off with the money and forgot to take the files out of her other domain directory.

Also interesting to note, the lines haven't moved in at least a week, but it says updated Yesterday. (8/18)

[peterdragin]

Check this out, it should explain it.

http://www.top-matrix.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1390

[concerned]

Wow, I knew it, as you can see from my post above. She must have pissed off some people, OR SHE IS UNETHICAL! I have seen Adrianna come in and out of here without posting anything. In fact, she read this thread AFTER watchdog and I commented about her site being down again. She didn't even make a post assuring here customers (that have come here for help) that she would still operate.

By the way, 13 customers yesterday, and maybe 2 from the entire week before is NOT going to help her out. I think it is FUNNY that people have defended her business when she is only making single digit sales every day. At that rate, she would be cycling one person per week on average. Sounds like a VERY successful business.

[Adrianna]

There is no need for me to post anything until I have facts. I am very upset that people are trying to put me out business. But I will have my site back up tommorrow. I WILL NOT BE DEFEATED. I think some of you are behind it but I want more info before I accuse you people....

[concerned]

Originally posted by Adrianna
There is no need for me to post anything until I have facts. I am very upset that people are trying to put me out business. But I will have my site back up tommorrow. I WILL NOT BE DEFEATED. I think some of you are behind it but I want more info before I accuse you people....

I can assure you that if anyone TRUELY associated with MatrixWatch wanted to take you down, they would report you to the authorities for running a pyramid scheme instead of sending a complaint about spamming. Also, if it was someone that TRUELY hated matrix sites like myself, don't you think I would report ALL MATRIX SITES for spamming in order to shut them all down? You can accuse people all you want, but the fact is that you were reported the first time before anyone here at MatrixWatch really started discussing the UNETHICAL behavior you have exhibited. Also, you stated before that it was a matrix owner that reported you, and it is the same person that reported you now, why do you need to accuse someone here. Furthermore, since you state that you know who the person that reported you is, then why do you feel the need to start accusing other people. Why don't YOU send an email to the HOST of that person's email address and tell them that they are continuing to report you for spamming. Two things can be done there. First, the administrator would be able to see if YOU ACTUALLY DID spam them. Second, they could disable their email account. Why don't you stop complaining about this, and DO something about this. Don't you owe your customers AT LEAST THAT?

[Adrianna]

No one has faught as hard for her customers as I have. When I said I thought it could be one I you I mean that the person maybe a prominent member of this site and a former matrix owner. But until I know all the facts I'm not accusing anyone.

[concerned]

Originally posted by Adrianna
No one has faught as hard for her customers as I have.

You sure have a funny way of showing it. You come here and cuss out people, and you might have a few customers that visit this site. Then on another forum, you say that you are going to start a fight over YOU getting reported. First of all, YOU must have done something to piss off this person in the first place. Then you make accusations. Then you say that you will fight. When you got your site back up and running, you acted arrogant, as if you were better than they were. YOU BROUGHT THIS ON YOURSELF. And to top it off, your customers will have to suffer. You see, there are 2 sides to every story. This person might have pissed you off for reporting you, but you must have done something that would make him do this.

If you really cared about your customers, you would GROW up and stop acting arrogant. Get your site back up, and stop your bickering. Start to act professional, and QUIT antagonizing others. Your UNPROFESSIONAL actions are hurting your customers probably MORE than the person that is reporting you.

START TO TAKE RESPONSBILITY FOR YOUR ACTIONS AND QUIT LOOKING FOR SCAPEGOATS!!!

[mikv]

Would it be off topic to ask "Adrianna" what the deal with "Prince" is?? The other thread brought this up and I haven't seen anything come of it. Adrianna if your name is really Prince, that would be the first step in assuring your customers that you are an honest site owner. As well, you seem to be playing a good game of customers catch me if you can. I understand the reason why you changed again (being reported again) but it doesn't look good to your customers that you just close up one URL and not tell them in advance. Then when you get the new URL, you don't do any formal introduction, you come out and bash everybody that will listen and then throw in oh yeah we're at this address now. I think you have done more than your fair share of being shady and it's time to come completely clean. With all that is on the table, I think you owe it to your loyal customers.

[MatrixWatch]

I would also like to know about the "prince" issue. Adrianna, are you prince? Or, are the matrix owner formally known as prince?? We, and your customers, would like to know.

Now, Adrianna, I didn't report you, and I don't believe that anyone here did either. What I don't understand is that on top-matrix forum you said:

So I get an email from GoDaddy telling me they are going to suspend my domain Applematrix.us for spamming..... I then found out that the person who "reported" me is the same persons who reported me the first time.

So, if you know who it was and is, why not tell everyone? Why do you say you need more "info" if you are so sure?


Adrianna, let me tell you something.. You are coming out of this thing a winner. Other matrix owners have lists that grow too long and they need to refund everyone. Then, all of their customers go on a witch hunt looking for their address and info when the site has to go down, and it is not very pretty. YOU, on the other hand, have the chance to BLAME someone else who has reported you and your customers get to assault THEM. You make out clean. Adrianna, quit while you are ahead. Do not open another site. Just walk away from the matrix industry and be glad to get out without the scorn of your customers.

[Adrianna]

I already answered this when I first started my site. Prince Campbell owns DestiniAdrianna.com, my 'real job' is answering the phones for his company. When I told him I wanted to open a matrix site he gave me access to his ebooks and money for advertising. He's like the silent partner in my site. He just asks me about once a week how things are going. I do everything myself. When my site went down the first time he allowed me to move everything to his server so people could see that the site was still up. I owe him a lot. If it wasn't for him I would have gave up on this a long time ago. He is a good friend and like a father to me.

[MatrixWatch]

It is good that you have a friend like this. Now, if the name of the company is DestiniAdrianna, then is your name really Adrianna? Are you Lisa Jones? Is your friend Chris Fallow? How can you answer phones for this company in Florida? Do they have a call center there, because DestiniAdrianna is in Louisianna (New Orleans?).

Has this friend of yours checked out Matrix Watch? Has he read through the lawsuit? Is he aware that the customers may try to come after his company as an affiliate should you get into legal trouble? Tell your friend to read the lawsuits here on Matrix Watch, then make the decision whether he wants to "silent partner" your site onto his company website again. He may be a good friend, but he needs to consider what you have brought yourself into, and that when the legal dogs come barking, he may have to be held accountable too.

[MatrixWatch]

Well, if you are the real Adrianna, then there is a problem. This is what the DestiniAdrianna.com website says about the REAL Adrianna:

From http://www.destiniadrianna.com/

The only reason destini adrianna is still around is because of the community behind it. The members believe that it's possible for anyone to make money today and want to help each other get there. The real Adrianna is already well taken care of. If you're not able to say that yet about your family, we welcome you to join.

How would the customers of destiniadrianna feel about the "already taken care of Adrianna" starting a matrix-scam site to make ends meet.

[concerned]

Yes indeed, HE sounds like a good friend. Adrianna sounds like she has no consideration for that friendship. She has HIM put up some money, she has HIM put the domain names in HIS name, she uses HIS GottaPay account, and on top of that, she will ultimately get HIM into legal trouble. I think that HE really needs to know what she is doing. I know one thing for sure. I wouldn't have put that much faith and money into a business that someone else is running, especially if that person doesn't have any business skills. I definately wouldn't be a business partner with someone who's SKILLS are answering phones.

YOU GOT IN WAY OVER YOUR HEAD, AND YOU ARE GOING TO BRING YOUR FRIEND DOWN WITH YOU!!!

[peterdragin]

Watchdog is right.

I was intrested in this subject and did some searching around for more info. Her location is in New Orleans LA.
and she, I think he/she is using the DSL conection where she/he works, which could also get her/him into trouble.

I myself could care less about this site because the way it's run it's doomed anyway.

[Talented Mr Rae]

I think I can remember ages ago, Adrianna said the names were a coincidence, but the name DestiAdrianna had nothing to do with her name.

[peterdragin]

Ya and the website DESTINIADRIANNA.COM is registered to

Tory Pegram
xxx Xxxxx
New Orleans, Louisiana 70118
United States

Tory is a girls name ? right

[tcb1969a]

Why is this thread still going.....?

[MatrixWatch]

Originally posted by tcb1969a
Why is this thread still going.....?

I think that what drives a thread like this is the archive value it has. In the past, we've found that sites close down, and people come here looking for answers. Since the momentum is moving in Applematrix's direction, coupled with the fact that they closed today (temporarily?), it is fitting that we should prepare an information-packed discussion about Applematrix.

I believe that matrix-site owners have rights, so I don't want personal attacks flying around, but at the same time I believe that "Adrianna" should be pressured into answering some important questions. From where we stand, AppleMatrix shows all of the signs of a matrix site near death: PayPal processed, trouble early on with alleged spamming, disrespect from other members of the community, non-moving lists, unanswered questions, etc. In addition to these problems, AppleMatrix has an extra burden that I haven't seen before-- the disdain, criticism, and sabatoge from other matrix owners. I do not believe that Applematrix will make it through this. It seems all too fitting then to prepare an archive for the customers who will most likely be headed our way for refund advice..

[tcb1969a]

Yes but I haven't heard any complaints from AppleMatrix customers.....The only thing I have heard is the customers complaining about this site targetting AppleMatrix......

Just thought I would put in my 2 cents.....

[concerned]

Originally posted by tcb1969a
Yes but I haven't heard any complaints from AppleMatrix customers.....The only thing I have heard is the customers complaining about this site targetting AppleMatrix......

Just thought I would put in my 2 cents.....

Yeah, but how do you know that those customers aren't her friends. How do we know that she initially got her friends to get the first few spots, so that they would cycle, and then only a few others started to add their names. If you have looked at their lists, you will see 3 things.

1) Their lists stoped moving. (Actually 3 lists haven't moved in about a week or more, only the $50 list cycled 2 people in the last few days.)

2) There are a lot of names on those lists that are X'd out. That could be that they were people that were NOT friends that used that "Red Pill" option, which would mean that the end is near.

3) Most of the people that have already cycled are not unique. You can see where the same person cycled many times. This site didn't have a lot of customers, just a few that bought often.

Also, she has had something in her favor that would move the spotlight away from her when it comes to her customers. That is the domains suspending her. She is able to email her current customers and tell them this SOB story so that they won't get suspecious. She has never provided proof that this person ACTUALLY reported her, even though she says she has emails or letters stating the person's name. I think this is just a smoke screen.

How do we know that SHE didn't report herself in a way to try to get out without the contraversy and legal troubles that others that have closed their doors are facing. It would be easy for her to report herself, in an attempt to place blame on others, and buy time to run. These are all questions that need to be answered before we even think about putting this discussion to rest.

tcb, don't worry. The complaints WILL come soon enough.

[MatrixWatch]

...as they always do (think matrixcom..)

[tcb1969a]

Originally posted by concerned
Yeah, but how do you know that those customers aren't her friends. How do we know that she initially got her friends to get the first few spots, so that they would cycle, and then only a few others started to add their names. If you have looked at their lists, you will see 3 things.

1) Their lists stoped moving. (Actually 3 lists haven't moved in about a week or more, only the $50 list cycled 2 people in the last few days.)

2) There are a lot of names on those lists that are X'd out. That could be that they were people that were NOT friends that used that "Red Pill" option, which would mean that the end is near.

3) Most of the people that have already cycled are not unique. You can see where the same person cycled many times. This site didn't have a lot of customers, just a few that bought often.

Also, she has had something in her favor that would move the spotlight away from her when it comes to her customers. That is the domains suspending her. She is able to email her current customers and tell them this SOB story so that they won't get suspecious. She has never provided proof that this person ACTUALLY reported her, even though she says she has emails or letters stating the person's name. I think this is just a smoke screen.

How do we know that SHE didn't report herself in a way to try to get out without the contraversy and legal troubles that others that have closed their doors are facing. It would be easy for her to report herself, in an attempt to place blame on others, and buy time to run. These are all questions that need to be answered before we even think about putting this discussion to rest.

tcb, don't worry. The complaints WILL come soon enough.


Them are a lot of ifs and assumptions there......And I don't live in a world of If's..........

[MatrixWatch]

...and it is not living in a world of "IF's" that led you to continue your operation of three matrix sites until the Tennessee-Consumer Affairs division threatened charges.

[tcb1969a]

Oh....so we are back on my case again are we....

Well, there is no way I can prove it to you, but I did not close only because of Consumer Affairs. I was already closing at the end of the month, believe it or not....It was because of lack of sales do to so many Matrix Sites out there...It just wasn't worth it.....

[concerned]

Originally posted by tcb1969a
Them are a lot of ifs and assumptions there......And I don't live in a world of If's..........

Funny, but I only used the word IF once in that post, and it said, "IF you have visited their lists you will find 3 things."

As for the ASSUMPTIONS, I will stop making ASSUMPTIONS when I SEE actual PROOF of the facts. In the mean time, I am preparing for the end. You should know that the end WILL come. Do you think that the lists will grow forever?

[tcb1969a]

Originally posted by concerned
Funny, but I only used the word IF once in that post, and it said, "IF you have visited their lists you will find 3 things."

As for the ASSUMPTIONS, I will stop making ASSUMPTIONS when I SEE actual PROOF of the facts. In the mean time, I am preparing for the end. You should know that the end WILL come. Do you think that the lists will grow forever?

No list will last forever......that is an absolute.....

[MatrixWatch]

tcb,
I am proud of you. You have admitted it.

[concerned]

Originally posted by tcb1969a
No list will last forever......that is an absolute.....

Well, then you answered your own question about why this post is still going. It is because the lists WILL end, and her site WILL close, and then there WILL be customers that COMPLAIN. Those customers WILL need the facts when they come here to find out how to get their money back.

[tcb1969a]

Yes, but what I'm annoyed about is the Adrianna vs Prince thing......that has got to stop. It doesn't matter. And it doesn't mean she is deceiving anyone either.....

[concerned]

Originally posted by tcb1969a
Yes, but what I'm annoyed about is the Adrianna vs Prince thing......that has got to stop. It doesn't matter. And it doesn't mean she is deceiving anyone either.....

The Adrianna vs. Prince thing is VALID. If it annoys you, read something else. The only thing that has to stop is the MATRIX SCAMS.

If you say that it doesn't matter about the name then you are wrong. Maybe Prince doesn't know that what she is doing is ILLEGAL. If you think that she isn't deceiving anyone then show the PROOF that she ISN'T deceiving anyone!

[MatrixWatch]

Didn't Adrianna already clear this one up? I cannot remember, but I thought it was her boss' GottaPay account. Right? If that is what she said, then that is our answer.

[tcb1969a]

Originally posted by watchdog
Didn't Adrianna already clear this one up? I cannot remember, but I thought it was her boss' GottaPay account. Right? If that is what she said, then that is our answer.

Yes, actually she already cleared it up.....But the sceptics out there will still doubt her......

[hurley9192]

Originally posted by tcb1969a
Oh....so we are back on my case again are we....

Well, there is no way I can prove it to you, but I did not close only because of Consumer Affairs. I was already closing at the end of the month, believe it or not....It was because of lack of sales do to so many Matrix Sites out there...It just wasn't worth it.....

True, but the bottom line is that you are closed, regardless of when you were going to close. We're on her case because she's starting to become inconsistent and doesn't have a solid base. What if her boss finds out what really happens? Prince has opened up himself for a lot of liability here.

[tcb1969a]

Well, then find Prince, and inform him/her.....if you are so convinced that Prince is unaware......

[MatrixWatch]

Just FYI, Applematrix is now redirected from www.applematrix.net. They are still using the dayscar server, but there is now a "Click Here" link at the .net address. I wish them luck. They really need to think through a couple things.

[concerned]

In an attempt to get this post back in line AGAIN, I will post some of the latest info about applematrix.com/net/us/place next extention here. I just looked at a post on www.top-sites.com forum.

Here is the link.

http://www.top-matrix.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1327&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=45


Here is what was said in case it gets deleted. Quite funny!

Quote from nicoleeubanks at top-sites forum
Looks like the Red Pills are being eaten. I can definitely see where at least one of the Main investors over there has opted out of all of their spots since they are XXXXXXX out in all of their spots on the lists..... I love the cut/paste you did of another sites "legal stuff". Your terms and condtions made me laugh. Belize South America?? Do you even know where that is Adrianna???? Sounds a heck of a lot like EzExpo's rules...Anyway sorry about that I just had to say something I'll go back to doing something else now.....



Here is Adrianna's response



Quote from Adrianna at top-sites forum

Actually that person was taken off the matrix due to fraud. They used a stolen credit card to pay for spots.

Nice try! Maybe you should just try to insult me personally, maybe that would stick.



Here is what that customer had to say.


Quote from Lancer777 at top-sites forum

Actually most of those spots were mine and I decided to red pill. Its been 3 weeks since I sent in to get my refund and I havent seen a penny even though I heard people who had less money invested had requested their refunds after me and they recieved their funds instantly. Im becoming very mad because Applematrix doesnt respond too much. It takes days to get back an email from them. I JUST WANT MY MONEY BACK. Im very sorry I had joined this site and something told me when I was signing up for the lines that I would regret it and now I most certainly do. Please send me my money back.


From what I can see, it looks like another HAPPY customer from applematrix.

[MatrixWatch]

From the Applematrix.net website

My name is Adrianna and my sister and I put this together because we were tired of getting ripped off by other matrix sites.


:o

[mikv]

Would this mean that "PRINCE" is her sister?? As she says "Prince" helped her put the site together and put it online for her. I guess there could have been 3 people in on building the site, but you would figure with 3 heads, and consulting legal counsel before opening that site, that at least one of them would know not to spam or play URL duck, duck, goose cause it hurts the business. This story just gets more pathetic as it goes.

[Talented Mr Rae]

Originally posted by hurley9192
True, but the bottom line is that you are closed, regardless of when you were going to close. We're on her case because she's starting to become inconsistent and doesn't have a solid base. What if her boss finds out what really happens? Prince has opened up himself for a lot of liability here.

That was sublime matrix that closed, not apple.

[concerned]

Originally posted by Talented Mr Rae
That was sublime matrix that closed, not apple.

Hurley's response was to tcb and his site closing. Reread that post.

[MatrixWatch]

For the past few days, Adrianna from Applematrix has been telling her story through the newsletter "District Red".

http://www.districtred.com

She has blamed most of her troubles various other sites like GotMatrix and Matrix Watch (that's us:) ). The funny thing is that we gave her more advice than anything else. She will most likely continue the interview, so you might want to subscribe also.

Here is what I found most interesting. Go to the District Red website and look under "The Writers". Their most prominent writer is a guy named Jakob Clark, who goes by the tag name "Prince". Ring any bells? The plot thickens.

Is the Jakob Clark guy the "father figure" who Adrianna works for, or is that someone different?

[MatrixWatch]

Here is a related thread over at Top Matrix:

http://www.top-matrix.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1434

[MatrixWatch]

If you send an email to District Red, notice the name of the auto-reply account and the web address... These guys are definately rubbing shoulders with Applematrix.

----------------------------------------
From: "Prince" <********@dayscar.com>
Subject: Thank You For Subscribing
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 13:49:12 -0500


Thank You.

Issues of DISTRICT RED DAILY
are sent everyday at 7:00am CST

Please send all questions or
story ideas to:

*******@dayscar.com

[Agent|Star]

Originally posted by watchdog
Here is what I found most interesting. Go to the District Red website and look under "The Writers". Their most prominent writer is a guy named Jakob Clark, who goes by the tag name "Prince". Ring any bells? The plot thickens.

Is the Jakob Clark guy the "father figure" who Adrianna works for, or is that someone different?



That is some very interesting information... Not sure if thats good or bad or if its anything but still interesting. lol I signed up for the DISTRICT RED im curious to read what applematrix is saying... Any also interested in back articles if anyones got them...

Thanks...

[concerned]

I would like to read the whole thing. I just subscribed yesterday after reading it on Top Matrix, but I would like to see the other issues. It was broken up into 4 sections sent over 4 different days. I only got the 4th. If nobody else posts any of these by the end of the day, I'll post the 4th one, but it would help to have the other 3.

By the way, dayscar.com, districtred.com, and applematrix.com/net/us are all registered to the same address. Some have the name Prince, and others have the name Tory, but none have the name ADRIANNA.

[hurley9192]

Interesting how they always try to force the blame somewhere else. Is tcb the only one that can stand up for himself?

[mikv]

Looks like the picture is getting even fuzzier over at the Applematrix. Why would she plead her case on a daily email list?? Even SHE has to know that "matrix dwellers" are either on Top-Matrix or Matrix-Sites or Here. Once again the Logic that a matrix owner uses to get thier point across is as shady as the business they run. I haven't seen any of the emails yet but I signed up this morning and it looks like I won't be getting any of the previous 4. Can someone PLEASE post ALL the emails with that "interview"? Does she figure that pleading her case there will win over new customers?? The only thing I can see that is good out of her doing that interview is the potential new customer base that she can build using that daily list, but pleading a case such as hers, I doubt many new people will want to join her lists.

[concerned]

Originally posted by mikv
Looks like the picture is getting even fuzzier over at the Applematrix. Why would she plead her case on a daily email list?? Even SHE has to know that "matrix dwellers" are either on Top-Matrix or Matrix-Sites or Here. Once again the Logic that a matrix owner uses to get thier point across is as shady as the business they run. I haven't seen any of the emails yet but I signed up this morning and it looks like I won't be getting any of the previous 4. Can someone PLEASE post ALL the emails with that "interview"? Does she figure that pleading her case there will win over new customers?? The only thing I can see that is good out of her doing that interview is the potential new customer base that she can build using that daily list, but pleading a case such as hers, I doubt many new people will want to join her lists.

You have to remember this though. As far as I can tell, it isn't a WIDE spread newsletter. Also, either she or her DADDY Prince owns the newsletter, so whoever gets the newsletter is probably already a friend and customer. No New Customers to be found.

[concerned]

By the way, did they close up shop AGAIN?

I went to their website, and their page isn't up, and they CANNOT claim they were hacked because www.dayscar.com is still up.

If you remember their site was actually located at:

http://www.dayscar.com/applematrix/0start.asp

They hadn't updated their lists since Aug. 18th.

Why would they go thru the trouble of getting another domain and doing the interview if they were closing? Does anyone have any info about this?

[MatrixWatch]

I emailed District Red last night about sharing my side of the story. Then, I received an email back telling me where to submit the story. Not knowing that it was an auto-responder I replied back saying that I would not be willing to submit to an interview unless I was reasonably compensated for it (i.e. donation, free advertising, etc.). Since I have been interviewed by larger media organizations it is completely within the bounds of fairness for me to do this. I did not receive a reply but this morning I received their newsletter and found that THEY PRINTED MY EMAIL IN THEIR MASS-MAILED DAILY NEWSPAPER!! THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO LEGALLY DO THIS UNLESS I AM MADE AWARE THAT WHAT I AM SAYING WILL BE PRINTED!

They have chosen the wrong person to aggrivate.

[mikv]

Guess the plot will definitely thicken now. First spamming, now illegally printing your email. Safe to assume that Prince or whatever his/her name is knows exactly what has been going on from the beginning with that site and they are just as oblivious to all that is legal just as Adrianna or whatever her name is. So let's see, closing and reopening 3 times, busted for spamming, people choking on the "red pill option", and blaming their downfall on Watchdog and Gotmatrix. Oh yeah that is one heck of a matrix site!! So where are ALL the Applematrix SUPPORTERS now?

[MatrixWatch]

Something really strange is going on with dayscar. You see, Applematrix's site was hosted on dayscar's server, right? Well, so is the "District Red" newsletter site (districtred.com). Dayscar, and districtRed are registered to the same address, and the same person "Prince Campbell". This name "prince" is also the nickname for their main writer at DistrictRed, "Jakob Clark". They are all intertwined somehow, and the way that they leave false phone numbers on their site, and their business is so shady, I am convinced that these guys are scam artists. I suggest that we begin mailing letters to the Better Business Bureau, Consumer Affairs, and the Attorney General of Louisiana. They need to investigate these sites:

applematrix.net/.com
dayscar.com
districtred.com

[concerned]

I have seen somewhere that one of the email addresses to Adrianna I think is jc@dayscar.com.

I always wondered about that. I think it was on the applematrix site, but it is now down. See my post above.

[MatrixWatch]

DistrictRed.com's site is not there, at least it isn't right now (5:00 PST). Anyone know what happened?

[concerned]

The site is still there, but the domain is not directing it to the page. You can find the site here though.

http://www.dayscar.com/HYIP/start.asp

[MatrixWatch]

Same situation that happened with AppleMatrix.

[peterdragin]

Doing a white page lookup there is a prince campbell in new orleans. Wonder if this is the applematrix he/she ?

I know when I did a trace it came back to New Orleans..


Prince Campbell

New Orleans, LA 70118

[MatrixWatch]

Let's not post all of that info yet. I don't want to antagonize them just because they seem a little shady. They haven't done anything extreemely wrong yet.

[MatrixWatch]

For those of you who subscribed to the District Red Newsletter, has there been any more updates from Applematrix? Have they mentioned any more of my emails to them? They may have removed me from their mailing list, so I would appreciated it if some of you would fill me in.

[mikv]

None that I've seen, although I didn't get one this morning.

[concerned]

I looked at Applematrix yesterday, and they hadn't updated their lists since August 30. On that day, only 5-7 people were added to the lists. The one time before that when they updated their list was another 8 days. In the last 3 weeks they updated their lists 2 times and added maybe 10 people to their lists. Have they fled yet? It is truely strange because there were a lot of customers in the begining that praised that site. Where are they now to defend them?

[mikv]

I was just on Applematrix's site. It is still up through the dayscar URL, but they still haven't updated since AUG 30. I got there by typing www.applematrix.net and it rerouted me. There hasn't been anything from them at all in a couple weeks. It does look though that every site run on that dayscar URL is either no longer there or hasn't been updated in quite some time. I think they are in the process of hightailing it out but it hasn't happened as far as today goes.

[sigx97]

Well I am sure I am setting myself up to be bashed by the haters here.
Since apple has not moved in 2 weeks I opted for the red pill. I got an e-mail about a week ago from Prince Campbell telling me to Print my ebook and send it in. I have printed it and I am about to send it back. I looked up the address I was given and it appears to a cemetery. but who knows it could be a house or business very very close to it. I hope I won't get killed for posting this link http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?country=US&addtohistory=&address=1810+adams&city=&state=&zipcode=70118&homesubmit=Get+Map

I am also curious if anyone else has noticed this?

[concerned]

If you zoom in even closer, it looks like it is right off of the cemetary. How creepy to live next to a cemetary though. I don't think I would want to live that close. Also, I still don't get the whole print the ebook crap. How many pages was it? What a total waste of paper. I don't know why you can't just email it back.

[concerned]

Originally posted by sigx97
I got an e-mail about a week ago from Prince Campbell telling me to Print my ebook and send it in.

I thought the owner of Applematrix was Adrianna Carpenter? She has said that Prince is a boss of hers. Why is Prince handling this?

[mikv]

That seems to be right in line with their practices. Every address I've seen anybody tie to them is either non existant or a different business altogether. Now Prince is actually answering the "red pill" requests...Hmm for someone that supposedly had nothing to do with the site other than provide a means for them to start the site, Prince sure seems to be everywhere whenever applematrix anything is involved. As well they are making you PRINT out the EBOOK and MAIL it to them?? Ebooks can be up to 50 pages in length or longer. I would be ready for them to tell you that you "missed" a page or the ebook is incomplete or something to not give you a refund. I've seen that in another forum where they played that game.

[concerned]

Mikv

Do you know what forum that was at? I'd like to see what was said.

[sigx97]

The envelope is already sealed but I think it was 108 pages. It was a nice ebook though. It does have alot of good info in it and written in an easy to understand format. But anyway back to the point, I am mailing it out tomm morning. Has anyone else taken the red-pill?

[mikv]

It seems through reading other posts around different forums that the only people who actually received a "red pill refund" are those who didn't have much invested in the site. Only small dollar refunds get processed in a timely manner and anybody who has a substantial amount gets the run around.

Concerned, the post I was referring I believe was at Applematrix's forum but that forum is no longer up, although I'm not 100% sure that is where I read it, it was a while back.

[Fork Pool!!]

I am heading for the redpill on this one, just need the info on where to send it to.

Sigx, can you PM me with the address??

[MatrixWatch]

The thing that is messed up is that in the movie, the red pill was the one Neo needed to take to "see how deep the rabbitt hole goes." The red pill placed him in the matrix, while it was the blue pill that enabled him to "opt out". Applematrix has it backwards..

[sigx97]

I alwys thought that was funny how it was backwards

[hurley9192]

seems like Applematrix has been backwards the whole time...suddenly Adrianna has turned into Prince full time. I think they were just using the girl angle to try and attract the guys to the site.

It's what happens when less than intelligent people try and do things they have no knowledge of doing.

Kind of like the suing for slander vs. libel issue...

[spectre]

Originally posted by watchdog
The thing that is messed up is that in the movie, the red pill was the one Neo needed to take to "see how deep the rabbitt hole goes." The red pill placed him in the matrix, while it was the blue pill that enabled him to "opt out". Applematrix has it backwards..


Of course, after the second movie, it looks like either pill leaves you in the matrix...you just arent sure what level you are on!

[concerned]

I don't think it really matters what color the pill is. In the end, Adrianna/Prince will CHOKE on it.

[factorytoyou]

Does anyone know the mailing address for applematrix? I emailed them at the redpill address at least three times and I have had no reply.

[concerned]

Unfortunately, I bet they already ran off with the money. Still no updates since Aug. 30. That is 13 days. Also, only 1 update in the last 21 days. That update added only 3-4 customers total. Real successful matrix business, wouldn't you think?

[MatrixWatch]

I just checked out their site at http://www.dayscar.com/applematrix/0start.asp. If clicked on the PayPal link and it appears that their account has been acted upon by PayPal. If PayPal froze that money then that means that Applematrix could not have run off with all that money.

They have been very quiet since I contacted them about the District Red Newsletter. I was not happy about them including my email in one of the sections, and they immediately quieted down. It appears that everything affiliated with Destini Adrianna and dayscar has taken a hiatus.

[concerned]

Well, they still take Gottapay, and since the whole paypal freezing started, I just hope that they haven't done most of their sales via gottapay. Just a side note, it is too bad that someone of such high reguard in the scammer business, such as Adrianna/Prince, is not willing to update their customers. What is even funnier, is that they keep the link to a frozen paypal account active on their site. How dumb is that?

If I went to a site and tried to pay, and this came up, I would just go to a competitor.

Error Detected

This recipient is currently unable to receive money.

[concerned]

They still haven't updated their lists in over 16 days. Where are the supporters?

[Agent|Star]

I wonder what happening with them...
I have seen a few posts by the "supporters" of that site. :confused:

[concerned]

Originally posted by BigStarr
I wonder what happening with them...
I have seen a few posts by the "supporters" of that site. :confused:

Where are these posts? I haven't seen a single Applematrix supporter post in weeks. Do you mean you see their supporters post about things unrelated to applematrix? If that is the case, why don't they come in and support them now?

[Agent|Star]

Originally posted by concerned
Where are these posts? I haven't seen a single Applematrix supporter post in weeks. Do you mean you see their supporters post about things unrelated to applematrix? If that is the case, why don't they come in and support them now?

Whoooa slow down...
What I meant in my first post was I have seen these "supporters" making threads of concerns hehehe... They are the same people just now they are wondering like everyone else whats going on with the site...

I guess they are backed up with the pill option, which many are going for... Ouch and it all came down to the spamming. They spammed once and they got slammed with it over and over again... That spam tac-tic which got them sales in the beginning was used to hurt them in the end (if this is the end).

[concerned]

Originally posted by BigStarr
Whoooa slow down...
What I meant in my first post was I have seen these "supporters" making threads of concerns hehehe... They are the same people just now they are wondering like everyone else whats going on with the site...

I guess they are backed up with the pill option, which many are going for... Ouch and it all came down to the spamming. They spammed once and they got slammed with it over and over again... That spam tac-tic which got them sales in the beginning was used to hurt them in the end (if this is the end).

OK, I have seen those people talking about the pill option. There were only a of those couple though. There used to be a lot more singing praises. Where are they?

[factorytoyou]

If you contact them at the redpill email address for a refund they will not even give you a reply

[MatrixWatch]

I sent Adrianna a Private Message on August 29th, which also sent a notifyer to her email account. The message has not been read yet. I think that applematrix has closed and fled.

[concerned]

Check this thread out.

http://top-matrix.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4039#4039

This person is mad. I don't blame him. I hope he comes here to deal with this. I think we need to face the fact that Applematrix, which was once a site that others thought was great, is now gone for good.

[Agent|Star]

Originally posted by watchdog
I sent Adrianna a Private Message on August 29th, which also sent a notifyer to her email account. The message has not been read yet. I think that applematrix has closed and fled.

Wow if this is true... That would not be very smart since Prince is plasted all over the place with various websites... They'd be fools to think they can run and get away with it...

In fact! any matrix site owner would be a fool to attempt to close shop, take all the money and run... Dont do it.... Dont even try =o\

[concerned]

Yeah, they are dumb. Also, there are some people that know where this guy is at. Either they have an address or something. If you do a search on Google, you find stuff about him also.