Did Kim guarantee January?

[norved]

i thought i heard kim guarantee that january WILL bring the new pay system. am i wrong?

[AvidA]

I was on that conference call and he said "the new pay system had better be up!" Kind of like he was sick of this slowing of things, too. I never heard him guarantee anything, though. Oh! Except in the begining before the attorneys...lol

[Not_Concerned]

I got banned...already...from the "new conference call" system...at least until I change my IP Addy...the xxxxxxx at YMMSS!!! I laugh at their i-net stupidity!!!!!! I do hope to see them hang from the "Noose of Justice". If not, I'm quite sure some one will cap your pathetic, thieving hinder parts (so edited for content)!!!!!!!!! I'm so waiting to see you on the evening news!!!! (not that I'm advocating violence...hahaha).
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"xxxxxxx it all and no xxxxxxx NO regrets" - Damage Incorporated - Metallica
BANNED SCRIPT:
I was called "unsavory" and said that my actions were not to "be tolerated" at this new call system.

I wrote the following and was banned from the new conference room (until I change my IP address....hahahaha xxxxxxx Rat xxxxxxx!!!). So funny!!! Check it!!!

[hearingblahblah] What a bunch of xxxxxxx!!! Same old same old!! I'm looking forward to seeing these people hang from the "Noose of Justice". I used to be a believer in YMMSS, but after over a year of seeing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING HAPPEN, I doubt anything will happen but me losing my money! RAT xxxxxxx!!! FEEL THAT, MR KIM INMAN!!!!

[ymmss_victim]

Damn, excuse my internet french, but I am seeing a lot of "banned" messages in here. I just got banned for the 3rd time on the forum. Sigh...

And yeah, Mr Kim guaranteed a lot of things...

[SSMMY]

just read this in forum from esto
office /paid weekly section


The notion of $25 a week is based on the idea of a $320 doubling every 90 days. This is a chimera. Forget it. Think real. The notion of under a dollar threatens to bring the earnings on a $320 (32 epcs which may have started as 1 epc) within range of, oh say, $32 a year, which would be 10 percent.

As far as I am concerned we want to be normal but do better than anything else that is normal. 10 percent does better than most people's normal and we certainly expect most of the time to do much better than that.

If we get to $3 or $4 weekly, those who have taken this seriously and accumulated many positions will be looking at excellent earnings. Those who see this will be encouraged to purchase epcs at whatever level they wish, knowing that this time around it is unlikely that we will experience bumps in the road of the sort that hobbled us over the past year.

It is exceedingly doubtful (I could be wrong) that we will ever get much beyond $5 a week per position, because, at $3 or $4, there would be a probable stability between purchases, increasing ad income and payouts.

I would suggest that folk who think we should, or even that we will, reach $25, contemplate coming to Las Vegas long enough to learn that dreams too far from reality end up on the floor being stepped on.

Best, S

[Gringo]

I'm quite confident that weekly payout will never hit $3 unless Kim dumps a big chunk of his own profits back in, but at least Rose isn't supporting the $25/week nonsense that many of the others are talking about.

[neighbor]

Conundrum: Noun; anything that perplexes because it remains unexplained or inexplicable or is a secret.

Well the only problem I can see with Esto Rose’s YMForum post are the missing words like the “nouns” that would allow him to complete his sentences. He is biting his tongue trying to “explain” in a context that sounds allot like an “investment” shuuuuuuuuussss. Words that would normally go along with 10%, like “return” or “Investment” or ROI or “as far as I’m concerned”…which would be 10 % of what’s…the…word???

Cant call it “that” and can’t really call it pay either.
Can’t really come right out and call it being “paid to read” because all the Affiliates HAVE been
“reading for free” every week for over a year, so there are lots of missed back payments in that $32 dollars a year per “$320 {insert current word term de’jure here}”. Not to mention Credit Card bills and 2nd Mortgage payments, you know the cost of business advertising.

Complete sentences that might cause someone to put 2 and 2 together and figure out what he is now calling “Forget it. and Think real” is $32 for 52 weeks,
Esto is talking about .61¢ a week per “$320.00{insert current word term de’jure here}” from over a year ago and when MW has been giving those “low” numbers for oh so long, the YM Cheerleaders would blow a gasket, about the math junkie’s jumping the gun.
Those must be the “excellent earnings” he is talking about, after working a year in Affiliate consistency.
I can collect soda bottles for 30 minutes and do better than .60 ¢ a week, and that’s with no other time or money shuuuush > {“invested”.}

Then he goes into an almost “guarantee” of what the future can’t possibly bring in, as if to say there is no way it will ever be stable at a whopping $5’s per “32 Ad Credit”, Think real!!!
Can’t ever sustain $5 whopping dollars, I guess you can just forget that “I must have at least $10’s per” we were all reading in the YMForum….Forget it Think real…

This IS the official word pumping out of every YM resource thou, Hump, Mike, Jim, Steven, the YMForums, email, Chatroom…pick one, anyone and the YM Songbirds have all rehearsed it from the same sheet of music… expect under a $1 per…and the announcement launch will be their best shot!
hmmmm…just maybe they “KNOW” something for sure that we have been saying all along.

Shouldn’t use words that reflect gambling terminology either, although that IS the closest to the trueth!
Actually nobody has to travel to Las Vegas either, just to their nearest YMMSS phone conference archive of Kim sharing his dreams that were so far from reality that they need to still be stalled into the future.
Everyone’s had a year to “contemplate” the dreams Kim has fed them!

Las Vegas and Kim have one thing else in common too, The House ALWAYS wins!

Wake up…Forget it. Think real….and don’t buy into this thing …AGAIN!

Neighbor

[dagwood]

If I had a "business" that returned 10% a year on my capital and which required me to input my labour, I'd turf it.

[Dreamer]

It all is common sense. this should not suprise anybody. Look at any biz opp.

1. Promise the world (check) Buy a pretzel stand, seal envelopes, make money placing classifieds. I admit, I bought don lapres making money package like 8 years ago. I admited it sounded good. Real good. But, I didn't do anything with this package. After the initial purchase, people give up. There have been many people involved in ymmss that have finally given up, that nothing is work having to return to the site.

2. Continue to promise big. Retire next year. etc. If you cant deliver, promise even more ($25/position). This continues to get the believers to spend more and more into your business. Chances are if they made it this far, they are still gulliable.

3. If people make it past stage 2, on to stage 3. Stage this is "Realistic". Continue to make it sound good. A buck a week is like 20% return a year. Not bad. Give people something to think about. At a $1 a week, I could live off of $500/week, so I need to have 500 positions. This is realistic. So, start buying now.

4. After that, they will undershoot expectation. What if paid $.25 a position. Certainly it will pay more than that. 30 minutes a week. So, if I want to make $10/hour on the side (not bad), that would be $5 a week, so 20 positions. Thats not bad. Now, what if they are worth $.50? I could make so much more money by buying more positions.

Is there a step 5? By step 4 everybody should be broke. So, at that point, it just becomes a game of survival of the fittest. Who can take the most amount of money from other players of the game.

[AvidA]

I'm quite confident that weekly payout will never hit $3 unless Kim dumps a big chunk of his own profits back in, but at least Rose isn't supporting the $25/week nonsense that many of the others are talking about.

I'll tell you why I think he doesn't support it. Because Stephen Rose and Mike Hamilton started the whole Greenwood MLM and brought in Kim-the mods and friends and family BEFORE they ever even told YMers about it. They are making more money from this company than the CPA. Who cares about that? It only goes to the YMers who have believed in them forever and a ****ing day.

The CPA may look good the first time--about 50% to get everyone thinking it will go up. After that everyone will be paid after Steve, Kim and Mike and the mods friends and family THEN the YMers to 10 levels deep. This is all becomong MLM whether we like it or not. That's the latest word, folks! :head:

[lionking]

How about BIG $16-19 millions coming per week to RFA?

lol lol lol

[neighbor]

Yep suddenly Greenwood is looking pretty good standing next to a bone dry RFA {Reading Free Account},
“STA powered by MLM", a Double/Ponzi/mlm, perfect combination! :applause:

RFA you mean ROTF maybe. Get your “garters clipped to your Dollar Store socks in anticipation of this weeks “blow your socks off announcement!

$53,000 last week and $19 Million next week, I see from the history of this thing, that particular weeks anticipated major announcement may also catch a summer cough, in June…ah…July…well August, “did I say 06?…did I misspeak again...I mean 07, “stay tuned” I anticipate making another major announcement.”

AvidA’s correct, all the major STA players are already getting checks from their own outside sources of income, those private invitations to join in Esto’s downline in the Greenwood mlm and get in at the very top.
So by making a thinly veiled downplay of what to expect from STA’s future, maybe Esto has some other ulterior motive for his post,…hmmmmm…not Esto…does that sound like him? lol lol

When you asked in the 300k thread about the destination of Mike and Co,’s new location,
Oh, I think they will “run” to Greenwood, I see their breadcrumbs leading off in that direction!
If your talking “run” from the Authorities, well, if I were them…I’d be eating breadcrumbs!

Don't buy into this thing again!

Neighbor