View Full Version : "legal" Online Money Processor
jdrescue
February 21st, 2006, 11:45 AM
I'm strongly considering launching my own online payment processor, which I'm needing to know what I would need to do to make it a 100% legal operation.
I'm not looking to screw people of out of money. I'm looking to charge a flat race $ or % rate on transfers. I'm wanting to operate a safe, secure, scam free operation.
Will I need to register securities, or register with anything esle? I look forward to your response.
Ferret
February 21st, 2006, 03:04 PM
Why would anyone use your service over PayPal who is the leader in the field?
How could you compete with them?
Who would trust you and why?
The fact that you don't state what country you are in
Your experience in any related or needed fields
How much capital you have to set this up
etc, etc leads me to believe yours is just a flippant post with no thought behind it
Have you tried googling the info?
You want someone else to do all the work for you?
Sounds like the formula for success....
jdrescue
February 21st, 2006, 03:10 PM
Why would anyone use your service over PayPal who is the leader in the field?
How could you compete with them?
Who would trust you and why?
The fact that you don't state what country you are in
Your experience in any related or needed fields
How much capital you have to set this up
etc, etc leads me to believe yours is just a flippant post with no thought behind it
Have you tried googling the info?
You want someone else to do all the work for you?
Sounds like the formula for success....
sorry i asked....
Ferret
February 21st, 2006, 03:24 PM
Just like i thought, you have got nothing but a "brilliant" idea.....
I'm strongly considering launching the next eBay........anyone got any ideas?
mercinary
February 21st, 2006, 04:36 PM
Ferret:
Your comments, while warranted, are a bit harshly spoken. Please keep in mind that everyone is allowed their voice here.
JDrescue:
Please consider sharing your replies to these questions with us.
-Merc
jdrescue
February 21st, 2006, 04:45 PM
Ferret:
Your comments, while warranted, are a bit harshly spoken. Please keep in mind that everyone is allowed their voice here.
JDrescue:
Please consider sharing your replies to these questions with us.
-Merc
Mercinary,
Thank you for your response (unlike the guy who replied before you...). I'm in the process of launching my own online payment processor.
I'm purchasing the software and hosting as week speak. My worries at this point, is am I required to have a special license/certification to be able to operate a online money processor?
I'd also like to know what the users would like to see from such a service (fee structures, etc.). I look forward to your response.
Thanks,
jdRescue
Ferret
February 21st, 2006, 04:55 PM
Reality is harsh.........
How am I stopping JDrescue from answering?
Setting up an online payment processor is a very big undertaking especially now that
the field is well served by PayPal and many others
If he can't answer a few simple questions I don't think he is up to the job
PayPal is owned by eBay and is a very sucessfull business
How does he propose to get me to use "his" service over theirs?
Ferret
February 21st, 2006, 05:06 PM
I'm purchasing the software and hosting as week speak. My worries at this point, is am I required to have a special license/certification to be able to operate a online money processor?
I'd also like to know what the users would like to see from such a service (fee structures, etc.).
How can anyone answer your question about special license/certification if
you don't state what country you are based in?
Where did you purchase the software from?
How much did you pay?
Who is hosting this?
Who is looking after the money?
Etc
Why don't you ask the questions about licence, etc to the Company that is selling you the software and the hosting?
Or have you already?
What do you mean by "I'm purchasing the software and hosting as week speak"
This makes no sense in english
Obviously the fees would have to be less than the competition or why would anyone use you
Why would I trust a new payment processor with my money over PayPal?
weirdid
February 21st, 2006, 05:21 PM
jdrescue,
i would suggest that you do a lot more research before you start to spend money on this project.
Talk to a hardware engineer about the cost of a bank of secure servers.
Talk to a software expert.
Talk to a lawyer.
I hope you have at least a half million bucks spare to get you started.
-weird
Ferret
February 21st, 2006, 05:33 PM
@weird You are missing the point here.....
He isn't proposing setting up a company like that
jdrescue has found some company?/website? that is selling him a package to be an online processor
Until he gives ALL the details it is hard to comment conclusively
I am smelling a bad deal though and probably a scam in which he will lose whatever money he pays and not make anything
Hopefully he is still in the "thinking" stage and hasn't coughed up any dough yet......
I'm purchasing the software and hosting as we{ek} speak
Does this mean you bought it already?
jokach
February 21st, 2006, 08:12 PM
I have to agree with what Ferret is saying about the fact that jdrescue is looking to buy only software and hosting in order to become a "payment processor". In comparison, its almost like me going out and buying a building with a small safe in it and then opening up a bank ... its not that easy.
Theres lots of things that need to be considered, most importantly from a legal point of view. Its easy to say that you don't want your business to be labeled a fraud, but if you don't provide an adequate sense of security for your customers, you will be labeled a fraud, because every scam on the planet will come and request your services (they prey on those types of deficiencies). It all starts with building a good name for your business (like it is in any business), and having strong, fair and enforcable rules and regulations is the way to start ...
My recommendation is to plan this like you would plan any other business, first by putting together a stable business plan and considering all the potential issues that are out there in an international ecommerce world. You need to work out these issues before you get your first customer, because once you take money from one person, its impossible to turn back. YOu may end up biting off more than you can chew.
Hope this helps ...
jokach
mercinary
February 21st, 2006, 09:10 PM
I agree with what all have said. Playing devil's advocate for a moment....
maybe JD has some answers to all the questions posed in this thread? Maybe he/she has a legitimate business plan he/she is willing to share with us (or at least give us an overview)? Please post if so.
-Merc
jdrescue
February 21st, 2006, 09:19 PM
I agree with what all have said. Playing devil's advocate for a moment....
maybe JD has some answers to all the questions posed in this thread? Maybe he/she has a legitimate business plan he/she is willing to share with us (or at least give us an overview)? Please post if so.
-Merc
Yes, I am purchasing software which will enable me to successfully launch a near turn-key program. I'm registering hosting services, which will be able to handle the traffic, etc.
I'm in the process of getting discussions with legal personel, who're involved with this style of industry. Hopefully they'll be able to let me know if they're are any legal forms, licenses, etc that I will need to have to just simply operate this style of service. Anyone on this forum with prior experience/knowlege would be great.
I know that I will need to incorporate a business, which isn't a real big hassle.
I'm definetly going to have a audit team.
I live in Texas, which is in the USA.
ycchen
February 21st, 2006, 09:43 PM
My curiousity is: Will you accept ponzi/pyramid/matrix-based "business"?
Ferret
February 21st, 2006, 09:46 PM
Yes, I am purchasing software which will enable me to successfully launch a near turn-key program. I'm registering hosting services, which will be able to handle the traffic, etc.
I'm in the process of getting discussions with legal personel, who're involved with this style of industry. Hopefully they'll be able to let me know if they're are any legal forms, licenses, etc that I will need to have to just simply operate this style of service. Anyone on this forum with prior experience/knowlege would be great.
You say you are purchasing software.....
Does this mean you have already bought the software?
It seems that the legal aspects need to be taken care of first
What is the software?
How much was the software?
Who did you buy it from? Website? or?
Is there anyone else using this turn-key package?
Software can't run a business......PayPal has lots of employees at a physical address
They have a 800 # and answer it
Hosting services for an Online Payment Business have to be very secure not
only on the software side but also physically as they are storing very sensitive info of your customers
I am curious where the money you collect from your customers actually is kept and by who?
jdrescue
February 21st, 2006, 10:01 PM
My curiousity is: Will you accept ponzi/pyramid/matrix-based "business"?
Nope. Any company I would deal with must submit actual proof that they're lagit.........then prove they're lagit
ycchen
February 21st, 2006, 10:17 PM
Then, you might need a team of people just to verify the legitimacy of those companies.
You might want to think carefully about Ferret's questions before you start your one-person virtual CC processor.
Otherwise, you will be just wasting your money buying the software. I assume the turnkey software should be expensive, at least few thousand dollars, right?
sisco50
February 22nd, 2006, 08:16 AM
So much for the bright side of things. I have a scenario in mind that I consider the dark side. If you are purchasing software to run a turnkey business and 30,000 others buy the same software for the same reason, you will have some kind of competition right off the bat. Chance of success is minimal when you throw in the established big boys of the industry on top of it. :(
I am from Texas and own a business as well and I might add that one must be careful about legal aspects when doing a startup of a business. :)
mercinary
February 22nd, 2006, 08:21 AM
I know that I will need to incorporate a business, which isn't a real big hassle.
I don't own my own business, but doesn't it make sense to have a business plan before you have the business? For example, what market(s) are you targeting, what demographics, what will be your marketing strategy, how/why will you be better than other payment processors?
-Merc
Ferret
March 9th, 2006, 02:59 PM
My curiousity is: Will you accept ponzi/pyramid/matrix-based "business"?
Nope. Any company I would deal with must submit actual proof that they're lagit.........then prove they're lagit
I thought you said you would NOT accept ponzi/pyramid/matrix-based "business"
When and why did you change your mind?
PS: lagit = legit = legitimate
See; New Payment Processor
http://www.matrixwatch.org/forums/showthread.php?p=35294#post35294
http://www.edalty.com/index.php?read=aboutus.htm& About eDalty.com:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
eDalty.com was launched so that anyone with an email account can send or receive credits. Each credit is valued at $1.00 USD. eDalty.com members may redeem their credits for the cash equivalency at any time by selling these credits back to eDalty.com.
You can believe there should be one universal online payment system and will strongly compete to be the provider of choice. lol
At last, you have found an online payment processor that will not "freeze" or suspend your account for activities such as MLM, Income Opps., adult business. eDalty.com will however suspend any account that is found to be involved in any fraudulent or malicious activity, including impersonating a representative or attempting to gain other users passwords. Any decision made by , its officers, or representatives will be final.
HACKING:
If you use, or attempt to use the eDalty.com for purposes other than sending and receiving payments and managing your account, including but not limited to tampering, hacking, modifying or otherwise corrupting the security or functionality of eDalty.com, your account will be terminated and you will be subject to damages and other penalties, including criminal prosecution where available.
INDEMNIFICATION:
You agree to indemnify and hold, its affiliates, officers, directors, and employees harmless from any claim, action, demand, loss, or damages (including attorneys' fees) made or incurred by any third party arising out of or relating to your use of the Service.
"Buyer beware - At any time you join an Income Opportunity or MLM program you are doing so at your own risk. We do not issue refunds if the program turns out to not be what you thought it was, or if they don't hold up to their promises. You should thoroughly investigate any opportunity before making the decision to join - if it sounds too good to be true, it usually is. It should also be noted that voiding your credit card transaction you used to fund your account for any reason constitutes credit card fraud as well as violates many other laws, and will be prosecuted to the maximum extent allowable."
www.eDalty.com reserves the right to make any changes to its terms of service at any time without prior notification.
WE DO NOT ACCEPT ONLINE CASINO PAYMENTS
vBulletin® v3.6.12, Copyright ©2000-2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.