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ymmss_victim
March 24th, 2006, 07:48 PM
I frequent several boards and I am seeing an upsurge of disgruntled posts about YMMSS STA over the last few days. I think more and more people are coming around. I just read a post from a 63 year old disabled woman who sold a vehicle to invest in this scam.
Don't let up, let's keep going :yes:
Gringo
March 24th, 2006, 08:49 PM
And for every sad story you see posted there must be a dozen more that are as bad or worse from people that haven't said anything.
ymmss_victim
March 24th, 2006, 09:01 PM
And for every sad story you see posted there must be a dozen more that are as bad or worse from people that haven't said anything.
Exactly gringo, the full extent of the damage to people's lives would probably be staggering even to us. :weep:
yeppers
March 25th, 2006, 11:14 AM
we're seeing only the tip of the iceburg, for sure. i appreciated the one who's since become homeless but went to the effort to post to mw from the library.
itstheone
March 28th, 2006, 04:15 PM
This has just been asked in the questions for the conference call
I think it is time to disclose everything about the business. That will give the affiliate population more confidence and assurance as to where the funds are going. Where they can concentrate their efforts with confidence and able to actually see results. Charts, statistics so we can see it, smell it, and eat it..I think that will create the headwind we need. How can we call this our business if we can't see it. I don't know what is hype or truth.
I don't think he'll like the answers he (doesn't) get.
A few more disgruntled people just staying within the TOU.
itstheone
March 28th, 2006, 04:35 PM
I'll keep some of these coming for the people who don't have access, it's heating up over there! I wonder how many actually read over here and know the end is coming.
BOTTOM LINE....
SHOW US THE MONEY AND OUR ENTHUSIASM WILL RENEW...SHOW OUR REFFERRALS THE MONEY, AND PERHAPS WE CAN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WIPE THE EGG OFF OUR FACES, AND OUR FRIENDSHIPS WILL BE SALVAGED.
.....AND LET'S NOT FORGET....SHOW THE WORLD THE MONEY...AND OUR PROBLEMS ARE OVER....ADMIN WILL HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME REGISTERING THE influx of the MASSES, and the CREDIBILITY OF THE PROGRAM WILL BE SALVAGED, as well as the PERSONAL REPUTATIONS of ALL involved !!
Frankly, I didn't join this business to have an opportunity to get 'free stuff"...start paying me/us as originally designed...and I for one will make a lot of Retailers very, very HAPPY !
PLEASE...NO MORE PROMISES, NO MORE HYPE...NO MORE ''FOLLOW ME". or "WHO IS WITH ME" sorta stuff ( I think we are all intelligent enough to follow our own lead)
JUST SHOW US THE MONEY !! Could the BIG PROBLEM just be...there AIN'T NO MORE MONEY !!!
NOW IF MIKE, MARK, KIM OR WHOEVER WOULD SHOW US THE COURTESY OF FREQUENT AND THOROUGH UPDATES AS TO EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING ON....perhaps much of the concerns would disappear, but the attitude of " FEED 'EM CAKE" has caused much consternation....almost as if the attitude is...the members don't deserve any explanation...
Also, if the LONG AWAITED RETAILER ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE don't materialize starting in the month of May, as suggested...then in my opinion, the coup 'de grace will materialize....if not already.
Sorry folks....just had to vent...take it or leave it as you will !
Just speaking from the heart !
Another
How can I encourage my referals at this time? Many of us have bought thousands of dollars of epc's that made Kim millions and paid management. Yet the first thing asked of us when the new site came up was to buy, buy and buy. It seems that the only real money in this business is our dollars. As long as the false promises of outside income keep coming, I can not see how I can encourage any referals I brought into this business. Please tell me how you accomplish this.
Ouch!!
My 8 referrals are active, but most just do the 30 min. I send them periodic updates; I encourage them to become more involved, but most are ready to "burn me at the stake"!
A "cash infusion", into the RFA like HHH states would sure go a LONG WAY to motivate folks to get back to the business of supporting STA. Without it, .... well, I guess I don't even want to go there....
I'm doing all I can to support STA, but I'm only a force of ONE.....
So they do read here!
I'm willing (again) to give STA the benefit of the doubt. I have no more disposable income cause I put it into YMMSS well over a year ago. So, my part is clicking and viewing when and where I can to meet my requriements and try to help out where I can.
I will be interested in May. That's when Jim H says if things don't pick up, he'll be uneasy. Heck, I've waited since November 2004, and although I know I've waited what seems like forever through the various issues and bumps, I think I can wait until the end of May and do whatever I can to do my part.
I will be honest, after reading the forums I found doing a google search, it really left me a bit uneasy, and I can easily find myself in a similar situation as some folks, but in the end I don't think the folks in STA are thieves, no do I think what has been going on has not been above board and in the open.
Only time will tell if I've lost all the value in the EPCs I've bought.....I'm betting that I haven't, but May will be a good indicator for me.
Dear old Larry, always got his chin up
Unfortunately what I’m dealing with in my referrals is a double whammy. The ones that I was able to renew their interests because of the New Commission Plan has now lost interest again.
It’s going to take results before they will try a third time.
I can't understand it.....what do people want......a dime on a $320......give me a break.
I think a few of these will be deleted but you get the mood over there, if tomorrows payout is even less they'll be a riot, hopefully we'll get some more people over here.
ymmss_victim
March 28th, 2006, 06:18 PM
Actually itstheone this is great, we do need someone inside that hasn't gotten banned yet. I know its tough, but if you can hold your tongue over there and post the "soon to be deleted posts" from there to permanency here it will be perfect. :applause: :applause: :applause:
Sounds like things are getting real hot over there. :flame:
concerned
March 28th, 2006, 06:20 PM
I don't want to get anyone in trouble over there, but is it possible to tell us who is doing the posting?
tafkaga
March 28th, 2006, 06:50 PM
I posted this yesterday and got banned:
There was once a rich man who owned a giant plantation
Who wished to do right by the world
So he offered the people a piece of his land
He said "Watch as your dreams now unfurl"
For just $360 the people could buy
A strip of the land for their own
And plant it, and seed it, and cultivate it
And harvest the crop that had grown
So the people swarmed in to have their own land
From north, south, east and west
They worked hard every day to till the soil
And they claimed that their land was the best
The rich man was pleased by the results
Of his efforts to bring them success
But what would soon follow was not in the plan
But was something they all should have guessed
The rich man had sold far more land than he owned
And the latecomers were out of luck
For the rich man could offer no refunds to them
And in frenzy they ran all amuck
The rich man vowed that his word was good
"You will get what you paid for," he said
In the meantime they'd work for nothing at all
But with dreams of great wealth in their heads
As more purchased land and crowded the field
The rich man vowed things were improving
And soon they would witness a miracle
The latecomers would get what they had coming
But in panic the latecomers rioted
And stomped down all the crops of their neighbors
So now no one would reap the benefits
Of the fruit of the early bird's labors
From his mansion the rich man realized
There was need for a radical plan
So he would take back the land he had sold everyone
And divide it between them again
Now instead of many acres being farmed by a few
Everyone would receive a square inch
They could call it their own and plant what they wanted
And dream of when they would be rich
The early birds conceded bitterly
To the system that the rich man imposed
For they were in profit and had nothing to lose
On their inch they planted a rose
The latecomers defiantly turned up their nose
They paid for much more than an inch
For their harvest would earn them a paltry sum
Of .0033 cents
So the rich man looked on from his mansion window
Hoping his workers would stay
And basked in the praise of his early bird fans
Who credited him for saving the day
The early birds carry him high on their shoulders
Saying the past months were just a small bump
And that their enterprise was on the move
From there it could only go up
While the latecomers bear the brunt of the blow
And are scorned for protesting the process
But continue to work for the rich man still
With hope to recover their losses
ymmss_victim
March 28th, 2006, 06:57 PM
Glad to see you here taf...
steve_o
hub1
March 28th, 2006, 07:03 PM
Hey, Taf, welcome aboard!
itstheone
March 28th, 2006, 07:08 PM
Hi Taf,
I thought that all your posts over there would be deleted when you got banned, guess not!
There was someone else who posted cherrys story, can't remember who but his avatar was a gurning man.
tafkaga
March 28th, 2006, 07:31 PM
My avatar was Spock from Star Trek.
Thanks for the welcome.
itstheone
March 28th, 2006, 08:05 PM
Yeah i was gonna say 'Live long and prosper' just didn't seem right somehow :rolleyes:
Somebody
March 28th, 2006, 08:54 PM
Yeah i was gonna say 'Live long and prosper' just didn't seem right somehow :rolleyes:
you could always say "Much Success" lol lol lol lol lol
tafkaga
March 28th, 2006, 08:59 PM
Hey, anything is better than the utopian crapola I had to listen to people spew on YM forums.
"We're changing people's lives, one day at a time!"
Yeah, they sure were...but not for the better.
itstheone
March 29th, 2006, 12:48 PM
Another coupla questions for the conference call:
Hi kim,
Is there an option to withdraw from this business and get our money back for those who had NOT spend a single EPC at ym ?
Since we had not use those EPC, how about return us the money and we return you the EPC?
Is it poseible to take the money we have invested in YMMSS and STA out in a lump sum? I understood that that money was there to stay, is this true?
Eer um that would be a er NO then
itstheone
March 30th, 2006, 03:29 PM
After esto mooted about changing the accelerator table a couple of weeks ago to try to shake off the SEC, and was rightly shouted down, Linda pointed out that there still looking at it. One af isn't too happy:
On the subject of the accelerator table, the threat quoted at the time this subject was raised here before was the 12 Daily situation, and now we have this SEC rumour. I thought this was the reason that Kim registered STA in Belize so as to prevent interference from such bodies!!
I have made it my business to look at these sites where there things are being discussed, and see that the reason that people are talking about legal cases and going to the authorities is that they have formed the view that STA has scammed them out of the money they have put in under the old system. I cannot see how knee-jerk reactions to this are going to do any good, and I am convinced that this is being used to form an argument for change. If we do change the accelerator system at this time, we shall do more harm than good, as we shall really **** affilates off! Can we please make our views clear before further change is forced upon us!! I urge fellow affiliates to do their best to stop this happening.
ymmss_victim
March 30th, 2006, 08:13 PM
Ahhh, phase 3. What a visionary Kim is...
itstheone
April 1st, 2006, 12:46 PM
I think the reality is really hitting home now:
With 22,000.00 in YM and the present payout and the fact that I now have to work 16 hour days on my job to pay off my creditors leaves this all a very bad taste in my mouth.
I'd really like to see a poll done on how many affiliates are happy with all that has transpired. I'd also like to know how many affiliates we do have left. There certainly has been no growth that I know of.
That I am in a minorty here is a complete understatement.
To say that we are still here and paying a pittance is a joke at best and not a very funny one at that.
I do not earn enough on my 22,000.00 to even buy a debit card yet alone pay for an internet connection to do this business.
My wife has to read for me and for my father as well.
It is my opinion based on what I know and see that YM has put many affiliates in the poor house.
No one that I know of in their right mind is going to buy a 320 epc only have it earn them 10 to 20 cents a week, and neither are they going to buy 10. epc's because it would take 10 years to pay for it.
leolobo, I feel deeply for your situation, and agree with you 100% as far as the value of this opportunity is concerned.
I can only state that we should have known better, that is, that it was utterly impossible to sustain the doubling of our money every 90 days, as did occur for the first period of time.
That very fact causes me to question the very basis of the original intent of the company business plan. I am not accusing anyone of deceit or fraud, only that the knowledge that such accumulation of money doubling is simply not possible without huge and sophisticated investments, outside of the program itself, should have been self evident.
I guess we will have to wait and see if this can be turned around. I really do not have a lot of faith in that possibility.
Casandra
April 1st, 2006, 01:04 PM
I can only state that we should have known better, that is, that it was utterly impossible to sustain the doubling of our money every 90 days, as did occur for the first period of time.
Don't forget that the current plan has the very same flaw. Every time a position in the accelerator table graduates to the commission sharing pool, it means a smaller share for those already in it. Objections to that have fallen on blind eyes and deaf ears. It's a "we'll take care of that problem when it happens" attitude. Seems to me that the "dillution problem" for STA already rears its head pretty high.
Somebody
April 1st, 2006, 07:05 PM
Does anyone else feel the PAIN in these posts by leolobo and stanhuis from YM?
if anyone with a gmail account would like leolobo's email address to send him an invitation to visit us, pm me.
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I think the reality is really hitting home now:
Quote:
Originally Posted by leolobo
With 22,000.00 in YM and the present payout and the fact that I now have to work 16 hour days on my job to pay off my creditors leaves this all a very bad taste in my mouth.
I'd really like to see a poll done on how many affiliates are happy with all that has transpired. I'd also like to know how many affiliates we do have left. There certainly has been no growth that I know of.
That I am in a minorty here is a complete understatement.
To say that we are still here and paying a pittance is a joke at best and not a very funny one at that.
I do not earn enough on my 22,000.00 to even buy a debit card yet alone pay for an internet connection to do this business.
My wife has to read for me and for my father as well.
It is my opinion based on what I know and see that YM has put many affiliates in the poor house.
No one that I know of in their right mind is going to buy a 320 epc only have it earn them 10 to 20 cents a week, and neither are they going to buy 10. epc's because it would take 10 years to pay for it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by stanhuis
leolobo, I feel deeply for your situation, and agree with you 100% as far as the value of this opportunity is concerned.
I can only state that we should have known better, that is, that it was utterly impossible to sustain the doubling of our money every 90 days, as did occur for the first period of time.
That very fact causes me to question the very basis of the original intent of the company business plan. I am not accusing anyone of deceit or fraud, only that the knowledge that such accumulation of money doubling is simply not possible without huge and sophisticated investments, outside of the program itself, should have been self evident.
I guess we will have to wait and see if this can be turned around. I really do not have a lot of faith in that possibility.
AvidA
April 1st, 2006, 07:07 PM
Yep! I remember the feeling about a year ago when I started reading here and realized the math and what a fool I was. Big tears..BIG TEARS. This is really sad...really sad.
littlefairy
April 1st, 2006, 07:55 PM
Hi everybody :)
my password doesnt work over at YM anymore so, if any of my buddies are here from YM just looking around, HI BUDDIES ;)
I dont know why my password wont work any more over there, but that's o.k., i'll make friends here. I love everybody.
I put half of my disability check into the money machine more than a year ago, i hope i make some money soon.
:)
AvidA
April 1st, 2006, 09:00 PM
Well, you won't. Not with YM/STA. Not according to the BBB. Not according to Mike Hamilton himself who said, and I quote:
A third area of our concern in Belize was to expand ways for affiliates to participate meaningfully in our business. We will have more to say on that in the near future.
Mike Hamilton
This is the last statement he made in his missive and it's very revealing as to whom he puts first in the biz and it's NOT you or any other af. :)
Golfer2
April 1st, 2006, 09:15 PM
I think it is time to form a POSSE :rant: :rant:
concreteman
April 1st, 2006, 09:42 PM
I think it is time to form a POSSE :rant: :rant:
ahhh yes, the rules of the old west Kimmy never would have made it this long :applause: :applause:
YM/Censorship
April 1st, 2006, 09:47 PM
Gotta love the lastest from esto
"We have nothing more to do with dreams of speedy wealth."
Damn, did he wake up...........
Rev. Jones
April 1st, 2006, 09:54 PM
Gotta love the lastest from esto
"We have nothing more to do with dreams of speedy wealth."
Damn, did he wake up...........
Where has he been since Nov 2004
:shake: :shake: :shake:
YM/Censorship
April 1st, 2006, 11:00 PM
and then his latest....................esto says
"In addition if we target anyone for affiliates it will probably be people who really do want advertising and are not concerned so much about making money. Best, S"
four years into it and they now want people who are "not concerned so much about making money".
Anybody watch "One Flew Over the Cucoo's Nest"?
I think Esto is one that got away.
brenda
April 1st, 2006, 11:16 PM
and then his latest....................esto says
"In addition if we target anyone for affiliates it will probably be people who really do want advertising and are not concerned so much about making money. Best, S"
that doesnt sound good. you mean, like they want to use us for target practice :confused:
Ferret
April 1st, 2006, 11:18 PM
Gotta love the lastest from esto
"We have nothing more to do with dreams of speedy wealth."
Damn, did he wake up...........
No, he didn't wake up......
It is more that Esto and Kim 'Ponzi" Inman got their money already and they want you to forget that you lost yours
Why doesn't Kim 'Ponzi" Inman, esto and gang give some of that money back?
"In addition if we target anyone for affiliates it will probably be people who really do want advertising and are not concerned so much about making money. Best, S"
There is no money to be made with their "business plan" and
there are no paying advertisers for their lame banner FARM
Rev. Jones
April 1st, 2006, 11:29 PM
Hope no one gets upset over this..
http://Steve Rose aka Esto.swellserver.com/news/top_stories/arrested.php
http://Kim Inman.swellserver.com/news/top_stories/outwithbang.php
neighbor
April 2nd, 2006, 12:03 AM
LOL, oh that's perfect...a reverse double eyepatch.
AvidA
April 2nd, 2006, 12:25 AM
No, he didn't wake up......
It is more that Esto and Kim 'Ponzi" Inman got their money already and they want you to forget that you lost yours
Why doesn't Kim 'Ponzi" Inman, esto and gang give some of that money back?
There is no money to be made with their "business plan" and
there are no paying advertisers for their lame banner FARM
Righty-o! Ferret! They want the people to forget and give them more money under the guise that "now it's okay, as you can see it's legal for you to give us your money again"...that is the essence of what he said. Full stop.
Rev. Jones, are you friends with SpidrVII? lol lol
itstheone
April 2nd, 2006, 08:11 AM
This is a question posted for 4th April
it seems that affiliate participation is at a critically low level. Only 2% of affiliates responded to "free offers" I can't imagine the figure is much better for afs that are making purchases from retailers.
Can a new "Membership Agrrement" be made obligatory to be digitally acknowledged and signed, with penalty for not doing it would be deactivation?
If so, more than a check box to be checked would be requires, a phrase - such as "I agree that it is my responsibility as an STA Affiliate etc..." would need to be typed exactly in order to submit. The STA legal team would be best consulted for this to, to make sure all is legal, correct?
If this would result in membership being cut in half, by weeding out deadwood, I believe it ould be good. Sometimes the tree needs to be pruned, so it can grow better.
Linda2222 isn't happy
Hi. Linda2222 here, yes I stole the keyboard again.I am not here to cause trouble. I am posting because I think this needs to be addressed. It concerns a question placed for April 4th. Here is the question, and I hope my reply below it will be allowed to stay, not only for myself, but for a lot of people who are NOT deadwood, they have reasons they cannot do more. And many joined before these requirements were ever brought to light.
Jeff works 8-10 hours/day, and drives 30 miles each way. Then he comes home, goes to the store, cooks, cleans, showers, takes care of me, then tries to catch some sleep. Because I am Dead Wood I guess. Having to care for me, also must make Jeff Dead Wood. Because there is no way he has the time or energy to do more for STA. And I cannot do much at all anymore.
There have been so many changes already. Now it is suggested Kim delete the DeadWood. Fine. Just keep in mind, those who did not use all of their advertising credits will need to be refunded.
The question for Kim does put some of us in our place, doesn't it? Now I realize my value is about null, and I am very hurt by the question and suggestion. But Jeff is not DeadWood. He is hard working, and is just stuck with me. So keep that in mind when making suggestions. You see.. the sick, the caretakers, and let's not forget the elderly or disabled, or single parents... they are not DeadWood simply because they are unable to do what people presume they should be able to do. Sometimes there are reasons that are simply no ones business. Anyone who wants to yell at me, go right ahead, knock yourself out. I am really too exhausted to care. But I do care about those who have feelings that will be deeply hurt by certain attitudes such as the one posted in the questions for Kim.
Thank you for your post. You are right on target with your comments.
To call any affiliate deadwood is completely out of line. All of us have put our hard earned money into this business and as long as we do what we have agreed to do which is to read ads 30 minutes a week nobody has a right to call us deadwood.
The problem does not rest with the affiliates who read 30 minutes a week.
The problem has been with administration failing to live up to its promises.
Anybody who thinks the problem with this company rests with the affiliates who read 30 minutes a week is way out of line and they are the ones that should be removed. Their remarks are insulting to the entire group.
I hope the best for you and your family, I hope that this company can finally turn the corner and we all see the profits that we so rightly deserve.
Casandra
April 2nd, 2006, 12:41 PM
There is a phenomenon with all get rich quick schemes that has people rushing to open separate accounts for their children, spouses, aunts, uncles, parents, etc.
Don't forget that many of that 27,000 (whatever) membership number counts such multiple "managed" accounts. Some opened separate accounts using relative ID just to scam the referral pay when that was in effect.
With no way to transfer positions between member accounts, these people have been forced to "read" ads for all of these accounts they created to keep them potentially earning.
Such deadwood structure was encouraged by the original YMMSS features. I imagine those who did that are really feeling discouraged now.
Scizammed
April 2nd, 2006, 01:09 PM
Wait wait, as a first time poster, this may be my only post, but maybe not. I at least want to add my 2 cents.
I personally know inman's nephew who got me into this stuff. I will be asking some questions later, if i remember.
Anyways. When i started Way back when, his nephew promised me $$$, well since then, i believe, even his own nephew was scammed. I remember a post of his saying "my financial situation is not what i thought it would be, so i may have to sell my car".
Also, i know these paragraphs are choppy bla bla bla. But i thought i would add that in.
And, my password "magically" stopped working as well, and surprise surprise, there was no way to get it back. It said i had "no account".
And what are the cycle times like now? Because i know they went up about 1-2 days for every day i was a member =). Good thing i think i only invested the most minimal amount (LIKE A FOOL). You sorta get scammed when a person you personally know, that is his nephew, tells you that it is all good.
So anywways, thought i would add a little bit to the story.
Till next time....
AvidA
April 2nd, 2006, 01:13 PM
Thank you, scizammed. You are not the only one to believe that his family has been scammed by him. There are some who believe that Inman actually believes you can double money forever even still. Like the following guy who I talked to about a month ago. He told me Kim still believed that you could! :crazy:
This is what that guy had to say today:
SimonTempler
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The 1% is a total joke and is no real indicator of balance. There simply is no cashflow. Are you really worried about people pounding epc purhases so they can take advantage of doubling their positions before the flood of epcs hits?
Sorry but I want the company to survive and your holding to the never ending positions is suicide. The company will change if it needs to you say?? Well it needs to. Apparently almost zero purchasing of epcs currently doesnt seem to be an issue.
No matter what management is going to do it anyway despite it has proven twice it will not work. Those of you holding on to the dream of never ending positions if you want to start getting paid then math does not lie. You cant trickle money to the top forever.
I am totally disgusted and for sure would be banned from here if I said what I really thought and esto if you back the decision based on the 1% rule then I am very very sorry to hear that because I thought you wanted the company to grow.
I guess I just need to go away because I live in the real world where people need to get paid or have a workable plan to put forth time effort and energy. Please post your commitments to purchasing with the new plan if you support endless paying postions because I want to see commitments for lots of purchases otherwise you dont beleive in what you say you do.
Best wishes
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Rev. Jones
April 2nd, 2006, 01:15 PM
A 320 bought last week with current pay would take 205 years to break even.
callmesucker
April 4th, 2006, 09:26 AM
Here's another post from an unhappy camper from the Land of I Lost. I'm sure this will disappear pretty quick.
New postPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:09 pm Post subject: Reply with quote
Well for one, I am a REALLY BUMMED little fish. I had hopes and dreams that Kim really did want to help us all. It seems to me like everything else, the ones in the beginning get richer, or the rich get richer, and the poor are gonna remain poor.
First my hopes got dashed when it quit doubling in 90 days. I was in over a year and never made that one time. It was changed to letting my measley $10's and $20's build over 15 months. I didn't like it but decided I could live with it. I had something to look forward to in 15 months.
Now I see this as my final hope is now gone. I have 21 positions in the AT, all low, and 2 in the RT. These 21 will grow one more time, BIG DEAL.
I have no hope of buying any $320's EVER. We are living on $800 a month and that just does not compute. I imagine there are many in this same boat.
So once again, the little guys get crushed. I feel like, and I HAVE, been lied to from what I was told when I got into my business. Oh I'll still read my time, for a while, hoping another change will come along that might benefit me, the little guy, but I doubt it's likely. After that we'll see, it just seems a lost cause now.
Missouri is indeed the show me state and I have seen nothing good shown to me in the last year + from this 'business.'
Now, go ahead and beat me up. I already feel beaten down.
ymmss_victim
April 4th, 2006, 09:54 AM
Really sad. They have so much to answer for. :flame: :swear: :rant:
SpidrVII
April 4th, 2006, 10:23 AM
Thank you, scizammed. You are not the only one to believe that his family has been scammed by him. There are some who believe that Inman actually believes you can double money forever even still. Like the following guy who I talked to about a month ago. He told me Kim still believed that you could! :crazy:
This is what that guy had to say today:SimonTempler
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Joined: 01 Dec 2004
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 10:02 am Post subject:
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The 1% is a total joke and is no real indicator of balance. There simply is no cashflow. Are you really worried about people pounding epc purhases so they can take advantage of doubling their positions before the flood of epcs hits?
Sorry but I want the company to survive and your holding to the never ending positions is suicide. The company will change if it needs to you say?? Well it needs to. Apparently almost zero purchasing of epcs currently doesnt seem to be an issue.
No matter what management is going to do it anyway despite it has proven twice it will not work. Those of you holding on to the dream of never ending positions if you want to start getting paid then math does not lie. You cant trickle money to the top forever.
I am totally disgusted and for sure would be banned from here if I said what I really thought and esto if you back the decision based on the 1% rule then I am very very sorry to hear that because I thought you wanted the company to grow.
I guess I just need to go away because I live in the real world where people need to get paid or have a workable plan to put forth time effort and energy. Please post your commitments to purchasing with the new plan if you support endless paying postions because I want to see commitments for lots of purchases otherwise you dont beleive in what you say you do.
Best wishes
This is an amazing post! "Give it to 'em, Simon!!!" I hope more YMMSS/STA victims get to read the opinons of experienced YM folk who KNOW Kim Inman is screwing up and screwing us in the process.
Maybe it wasn't Kim Inman's intention to start out this way, but it's where he's been treading water for the past year and a half.
BTW, there are many similarities between Jim Jones and Kim Inman. But, the one HUGE difference is that Jim Jones had more compassion for those he deceived into "giving up" their lives.
The death from ingesting cyanide is much quicker than the death resulting from Kim Inman's scam. Bankruptcy, broken marriages, broken families, heart and stomach problems, lost dreams, mental illnesses, suicides, and the list goes on and on.
Kim Inman, you are a man void of understanding who will not escape your punishment. I'm looking forward to watching you in the courtroom trying to explain your deceptive actions to an judge and jury. I'll be posting the pictures here at Matrix Watch...so stay tuned!
Bubba's got your number!!! (*) lol lol lol
SpidrVII
Gringo
April 6th, 2006, 06:54 PM
Add this one to the list of negaholics:
With respect, when late May comes, what will be the word then? Honestly? I really feel sorry for those who are still blissfully oblivious to the debacle being wrought all around them. Their awakening is going to be so very sad.
The above is in reponse to JimH. commenting on how the expected earnings will increase in late May. Funny how the date keeps being pushed back... Kind of reminds one of how the cycle times were expected to drop every month last year. They are trying to play the same game, but a lot of people aren't buying it anymore.
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