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AvidA
April 29th, 2006, 10:28 PM
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 3:23 pm Post subject: ‘Never Fear BEN is HERE’ and “Deserters PERSEVERE” Reply with quote
‘Never Fear BEN is HERE’ and “Deserters PERSEVERE”


I have read many other Forums about STA and the many people involved in STA the likes of Kim Inman, Bob Nillson, Mike Hamilton, Esto (Steve Rose) and many others who believe Affiliates should press on regardless of the current weekly payment.

What I cannot understand is some Affiliates who were suckered, I must say through not their own fault, by the mindless thoughts of some affiliates and a culprit who purport to have been involved in YMMSS and then STA, to post in the ymforums unnecessary and unmeaning thread to damage their own standing by perpetrators and who the suckered Affiliates were at one time highly respected and regarded by many an Affiliate and moderators/administrator to support STA and its Member/Affiliates.

I believe these Affiliates who feel STA has 'robbed' them of their cash should really think TWICE before they make such accusations. I know they should really say to her/him self,
"Did YMMSS/STA really 'robbed' me of my cash or did I offer my cash to them?"

On the other hand I would have thought it would be more painful to think for her/him self,
"Would I rather be robbed unwillingly or better to be 'robbed' in the hope of getting my money back sometime?'

In the latter case it is better to know that you have been 'robbed' knowing that you yourself have volunteered the cash willingly.

I know that there are Affiliates who surrendered their identity to some perpetrators in Forums and hoping to raise some form of challenge if you will to 'close' down STA.

I say to these Affiliate and purported affiliates,
"Do you think you are doing the right thing?"

I am absolutely sure there are Affiliates who are wondering if what they have surrendered their identity has a lot to lose. The loss can be in many ways. I am not prepared to start to even think their loss.

I can imagine some Affiliates suckered now feel they should just get on with STA and see to the end what comes out of it.

I can only tell everyone who is worried about STA falling by the wayside,

“STA is HERE and until it fails to deliver I SUPPORT STA.”
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 5:55 pm Post subject: OK benjamin Reply with quote
OK benjamin,good post,I myself was a member of some other forums as cashmound,never hid who I was and told the true facts about others telling their lies about YM/STA.

I have since deleted my accounts at these other forums,but read in them now and then and the truth is the following.

If I had one wish to change the past weekly payouts,it would be to reverse the order,or the first ever high payout should be around now,with the lowest ones being in the beginning and then a rise up to higher levels.

We are so young in the business 2 months + or - yet we have made many aware of STA at Alexa.com with our Traffic Rankings,numbers that other websites take a year and more to come close to,if ever!

And the final fact is this:

Since June 11,2002 Nobody has lost One Penny,unless they chose to,completing the Survey and reading your ads for the whole Laughing half hour per week,has left only those failing to do so in a situation that they may have been deactivated,but can straighten that out and they lost nothing.

Violating the TOU in the Forum may get you banned from posting,but read your ads and everything is OK,run to other forums and your on your way to breaking more TOU terms and as your own enemy you may lose your entire accounts,or should I call it donating them to the true members to share.

Every week since the start of STA we have taken steps forward,Alexa.com shows this in black and white for all to see,and we as members read the Newsletters and this forum to know the more time in will mean more money coming out of our work to produce the rise in weekly pay in a short time from now.

It's just ashame that some members who will NEVER find a better Internet Home Business,one thats a PROVEN WINNER can be turned into a losing expierence by their own decision,not to do the minimum and just be patient.

We will come to the days of rising weekly pay to levels that put smiles on our members faces and again grow in numbers of retail advertisers,membership and ways to earn a better weekly pay,Smart members will be here to share in our STA Future Success Wink

God Bless Bob Nilsson NJ USA

To Ben,

Yes I feel that we're doing the right thing as saving others from the demise of losing their money to a failed Ponzi turned "advertising cage au folles" can NEVER be wrong. Have you heard of God? Where is your conscience? Do you not have one? Is money all you think about, dream about, live about? Shame on you and the shame will surely come in the form of poverty if you keep sporting this garbage to innocent people!

To Cashmound, aka Bob Nilsson,

I have lost money. My friends have lost money Now you may call me out here so I can tell you just how many people have suffered at the hands of your BIG MOUTH and at the following of Kim Inman. How dare you say no one has lost money while people are suffering this intrusion and these lies upon their life? And they're suffering now while you make flippant comments because you've both made money. You hipocrits. Thank God tonight that I am not HE or I would cast you into a pit that would burn you forever and your lies with you! You care for no one but yourself and you're going to be the FIRST person I name personally to the IRS and the SEC when I hear back from them. Shame on you both! Shame...Shame...Shame. There's nothing else you can be made of but filthy shame!!

wonderwoman
April 29th, 2006, 10:51 PM
:flame: :flame: Shame on them, that is what I feel, also,,,money is not the
"root of all evil"----It is the "love" of money that is at the "root of all Evil""
I think that is what I read in the Bible--It is so sad, and I know that others
will come in here, and read, and judge me, when actually, I am not judging
anyone, because we all have to face the Throne, alone--On a lighter note,
I think any knows that I would have a good chance on Jeporady as the
TV catergory goes, but, I am not trying to emulate the "Church Lady" on
Saturady Nite Live"--:)

Somebody
April 29th, 2006, 10:58 PM
Everybody has to do what they think is right.

neighbor
April 29th, 2006, 11:09 PM
“STA is HERE and until it fails to deliver I SUPPORT STA.”
What have they got loaded into that crazy Bong from H E L L that they have been
huffing on over there…..sheeesh

AvidA
April 29th, 2006, 11:38 PM
Much CRACK. :yes:

AvidA
April 29th, 2006, 11:41 PM
wonderwoman I am not trying to emulate the "Church Lady" on
Saturady Nite Live"--:)

Could it be SATAN? lol :flame: lol

wonderwoman
April 30th, 2006, 12:03 AM
lol :applause: Yes, Avida, ==God is good, but that is what makes us all
do wrong===The Church Lady===blamed everything on the:evil: lol , and
never did anything "wrong"--You know, we are all weighed in the balance.
Even learned from TV---Do not tip the scales==Especially, the scales of
justice, which we are all hoping to achieve.==I know that your are an angel.
"maybe even " Touched by an Angel" ==Now I know==Avida, you watch tv
also:) --Kim and Co. is in deep--:nono:

Gilbert
April 30th, 2006, 07:12 AM
What else would you expect from someone who has publicly gloated by posting on promotional websires, about the amount of money he has taken from the pockets of others?

By his own admission, it's over $65,000 (65k dollars). We are not talking pocket change here are we.

This person should be as culpabale as the next when justice is served.

AvidA
April 30th, 2006, 10:51 AM
I expect a little humility and some humanity. ...expect in one hand. :rolleyes:

I have him pegged to name very first along with Kim Inman and Esto and Ben. Ben made a ton as well! If they allow me to name names, and I don't see why not, I will name them and mommie dearest, too. :yes:

NeverToLate
April 30th, 2006, 10:53 AM
Everyone has a need for increased income, we all agree with this. The internet has been the place for years to draw others to invest their money
to accomplish a profit.

The odds are against this from happening. If it does happen it is usually the first ones in making a profit.

Now when you add ponzi players or owners and a ponzi system you have created a lie for the majority to make profit.

Ymmss was built on a lie because Kim Edward Inman knew at some point the ponzi would peak out and start to fall--he played it out. Then because he was greedy continued to lie to produce income for his family.

The scam activated.
members join
others invited

Incentives given 3% commissions to share
phone calls used----- to use those members who made money to tell others

Membership increased
Credit Cards Established to suck everyone in----the debt issues today.

The Christian issue to bond many members to share with others

Kim travels to meetings to tell why ymmss won't fail.

Pencils false statements on commissions paid out.

Spends affiliates money to purchase the resort. Gives many employee's at the resort increased income.

The elderly retired and disabled were targeted to purchase $10 epcs weekly to have the same opportunity to have a wonderful income in 15 months even after the ponzi was present (the graft according to mw)

Never any outside income investments but admin always stating they were going to be the salvation.

Kim taking the ponzi players and placing them in high places.

I could go on and on but will save you the reading.

Bottom line is ymmss was built on a ponzi platform and with that has to be the lies. The Inman Family has full knowledge of how this works.

The ymmss forums are running their course keeping focused on money not honesty.

Deception=lies=people being hurt financially.

If you are tired of being lied to then change this relationship you are attached to and come forward and do something about it. Join us here at MW and bond to the vice that wants to stop Kim Edward Inman in hurting anyone else. Peace always

AvidA
April 30th, 2006, 11:58 AM
SpidrVII addressed this in Kim's video, which I finally had the pleasure of viewing on this site last night. He was talking circles and amazing LIES last July. Not even one year ago, nevertolate.

The man is diabolical or in desperate need of a hospital bed in a good psyche ward!

Angel
April 30th, 2006, 12:47 PM
Excellent post NeverToLate!
do you have any ebooks about writing powerful ad copy?
I hope he rots in prison. Him and his entire family.

Angel

Angel
April 30th, 2006, 12:48 PM
I want to write an expose and blast on my safelists I am subscribed to

Casandra
April 30th, 2006, 07:31 PM
The Ben and Bobby thread has digressed:

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Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 7:52 am Post subject:

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what bothers me is one of the people complaining in another forum is using the user name ferret , which is my user name here. i am afraid eveyone will think it is me, and cause me to lose my account.


cashmound
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Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 12:43 pm Post subject: OK Ferret

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Well you know Ferret's multiply some ,whats the difference a Ferret here a Ferret there no really,there is absolutly nothing in a username ferret,I mean to be accused by.

Who really can tell one ferret from another it's in what you post here that counts,so we can tell the good ferret is you Brother,the one at the other place is the losing ferret

God Bless Bob Nilsson NJ USA


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Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 2:04 pm Post subject:

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I wouldn't fret, Ferret!

Suzanne


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Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:19 pm Post subject:

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Scott, Blessed, & I are fully aware of this, too, Ferret. You are OK here.

Anyone need a good MW forum user name?

Larry
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Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:51 pm Post subject:

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I'm glad Larry is such an uncommon name.... I think I'm the only one in the world.... maybe the universe..... yes the only one in the cosmos.....


acomplshurdream
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Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 7:55 pm Post subject:

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I haven't had a lot of time to keep up on things in the forum - just trying to get my ads read every week - but I'm glad to see there's still a great amount of communication and Q&A going on.
Just wondered, I keep getting spam in my email from "Earlgottadoit", which has been ridiculously negative about STA...has this been a pretty common problem with most members?


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Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:25 pm Post subject:

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We are all aware of these e-mails, Acomp. Always report this as slanderous spam to the ISP from where the e-mails are coming from and always include the "full header" with any of these e-mails so they can be traced.
I am second thinking any sympathy I felt for the Humphrey's. She says it's all lies we speak here of loss and emotional pain. She thinks it's a lie that we are forming a consumer action group. She thinks it's lies that Kim has lied to us over and over again. I think she has actually managed to forget all of YMMSS! The koolaid is working well there.

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Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 11:26 pm Post subject:

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The affiliates who believe in Kim and his program are not swayed in the least way by "those other forums". It is nothing more than an trash bin with trashy people. I don't need them and all of the "supporters of STA" do not pay attention to them either. Hey! We all have a business to run!!!!!


All I can say to the ones that put out lies about us is this: Be glad Kim is who he is because most CEO's would not put up that. And, rest assured, he knows who you are.


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Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 12:14 am Post subject:

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How true pat!! Libel is a serious business to engage in..Kim and Mike arn't ones to triffle with in this way..they can take critisim thats has merit but creating out right bogus nonsense then plastering it on the net is quicksand with no excape..
Yes, winner99, perhaps STA can be called a legal busines, but look at its roots! How can it stand on it's illegal foundation? Don't forget YMMSS.

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Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 2:05 am Post subject:

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All of us, including Kim, are affected by mindless and untrue criticism.
We say we can handle it but deep down all of us feel the pain.

The best thing is not to go to these other forums. Every hit they count
and consider it support and it encourages further scandalous and libellous
accusations and truth twisting. Besides why open yourself to such a
negative influence?

They all bought advertising as we did. For that they received value. If
they did not read the fine print or if they extended themselves beyond
what they could afford they can hardly blame anyone else. If they
interpreted undertakings as being contractual at law then they misread
the fine print.

Obviously we were not party to every verbal and written undertaking that
Kim or any other affiliate or staff person has given about "returns" - I
have been with Kim when people have offered to buy large amounts of
advertising and he clearly warned them about over extending themselves
almost to a point of negativity. I also know that Kim has personally
helped a number of people who got into difficulty - something he will kick
my shins for saying.

I am sure all of us feel sorry for genuine cases of hardship. It can be
very distressing to have believed in something implicitly and receive less
than you were hoping. We all have shared in that!!!!

This is a fully legal business and is owned and managed by someone who
is genuine, trustworthy and sympathetic. We are fortunate to be here.

winner99

AvidA
April 30th, 2006, 08:29 PM
The affiliates who believe in Kim and his program are not swayed in the least way by "those other forums". It is nothing more than an trash bin with trashy people. I don't need them and all of the "supporters of STA" do not pay attention to them either. Hey! We all have a business to run!!!!!


All I can say to the ones that put out lies about us is this: Be glad Kim is who he is because most CEO's would not put up that. And, rest assured, he knows who you are

If you're not bothered by it, Pat, then why are the forums there always talking about it.
As far as Kim suing for libel...BRING IT, DON'T JUST SING IT!!! I would love to get him in court. :)