Poor Kim, He's Just About Broke

[Gringo]

Looks like Kim asked JimH to play the sympathy card.

It is important to remember that Kim has spent a very great deal of Admin's money to bring us to this point of now having the STA Retail busines in place. This definetely means he isn't now in the best financial shape presently, since there has been very little profit coming into STA during much of 2005 and all of 2006 up to now.

He very much needs STA to succeed with our support as much as we need it to succeed, and all of Admin does. And Kim has to continue paying his staff during all this time and while waiting for the STA Retailers checks to come in for all of us.
We all need to remember this & that we were a team through the extremely hard times during 2005 until now, & need to be a serious team more than ever as we are fully expecting increasing profits to come in all throughout this summer (very, very hopefully we will start seeing this today, too) from Retailers payments that are due.

"little profit", "not in the best shape financially"lol Uh, what about the millions he tucked away while victims were jumping on board to double their money?

I have to wonder if there is something more behind this message. More than just "poor me, the rest of you shouldn't complain." Such as, is Kim starting to set up a scenario where he claims there is not enough cash flow, so he needs to fire staff and basically close up shop, or at least just put everything on autopilot?

[drankoolaid]

Thanks Gringo,

This type of Jim H rant is exactly the thing
I have been talking about -- ie: STA death throes

Now here is Mike breaking name calling rule --

These morons do not even possess basic clues.

Anyone with 'half' a brain that knows ANYTHING
about internet business and marketing KNOWS that
SUMMER TIME -- IS the SLOW TIME --

Clarification -- Unless One Is Selling Sun Tan Lotion and Beach Balls
In Which Case Most Folks Simply Go Directly To Wal Mart

So I guess in a sense -- it all fits -- because
when it comes to Inman / YMMSS / STA
SLOW is the ONLY speed --

Really these folks ought to stop shilling for this man.
Not only is it wrong -- it really does not highlight
their 'keen intellects.'

Good God --
Now IBA's are asked to take pity on the scammer!
Brilliant!

Thanks Again Gringo,
Best Regards,
Michael

[Ferret]

I thought the money to run STA was taken out first before anyone else got their pennies
How many pennies was the pay this week?????

[Webwatch]

I have a feeling we are witnessing the classic exit stratergy as Mr Inman and his co-conspirators will be reaching the limit of Financial expenditure they are willing to invest to keep YMMSS/STA alive.

For all those YM members thinking of taking out a loan with MYNLC to help Kim in his approachig hour of need don't worry he will have a few million stashed away to allow him to continue to live in the lap of luxury you have all paid for.

Still you can always ask questions on your own forum if you wish, but don't forget these have to be the right questions (nothing to tricky or you will get deleted or even banned).

I expect we will get another mention soon which will probably go like this:
Due to the lack of retail investment in STA and also the negative publicity from a certain internet forum we are unable to sustain this business model and have therefore taken the hardest decision of all which is to close.
Thank you for all your investments and for those of you who it didn't work out for we apologise for your loss. Or words to that effect ;)

[KimSUCKS!]

Kim has spent a very great deal of Admin's money to bring us.......

It's not admins money, its our money he's spent

This definetely means he isn't now in the best financial shape presently, since there has been very little profit coming into STA during much of 2005 and all of 2006 up to now.

Aww, poor baby. Welcome our world that you put us in. You say there's been very little profit, could this be to there not really being 25,000 members?...gee i wonder?

He very much needs STA to succeed with our support as much as we need it to succeed, and all of Admin does. And Kim has to continue paying his staff during all this time and while waiting for the STA Retailers checks to come in for all of us.

No duh, of course admin wants to succeed because they dont want to get a REAL job. Wait, i thought he said he has great, qualified employees that get things done? So much for those inner-company promotions!..ROFLMAO!!!

We all need to remember this & that we were a team through the extremely hard times during 2005 until now, & need to be a serious team more than ever as we are fully expecting increasing profits to come in all throughout this summer (very, very hopefully we will start seeing this today, too) from Retailers payments that are due.

So you're saying that since we don't throw tons of money in your con system that we're not a team...how sad!! I like how you used the term "expecting"..that word says it all about what you plan to promise. Why would anyone want anything more do with you guys when you admit that you have NOTHING....? hello!!

I think i said it all in that one.. :)

[drankoolaid]

Your Best Ever! Loved It!

Best Regards,
Michael

oh yeah -- you made me laugh like hell too! lol

[KimSUCKS!]

And Kim has to continue paying his staff during......

Let me guess, if he doesn't pay you, you'll spill the beans on his operation. We really would like to have a Whistle-Blower over hear :)

....all this time and while waiting for the STA Retailers checks to come in for all of us. So the money goes to you guys, what about us affiliates, we deserve the money.

just though i'd add on a little more...

[NeverToLate]

Those in waiting ---many have very hard feelings and financially are not better off then the day they first put their first out of pocket into what
they thought would return to them a positive move forward on their ROI.

They see it is not going to happen and yet you have a handfull of those
that actually post how they feel because they know what will happen if
they ask any questions about how the owner has managed to hide in another country but rips off those that cannot ask the most important questions
about this scam. Folks any money paid is still BLOOD MONEY taken from
others. Will STA still be available the rest of 2006?

The 1099's will no doubt be the final dagger that shuts off the vary last
breath of this SCAM. But the action you take against this SCAM will
be very important! Voice your right here at MW it will not be deleted.

[Dreamer]

Webwatch made a good point regarding the exist planning. We are always to blame for everything, and they just dont get it. Look at Esto's hit and run strategy he is always doing, trying to "respond" to the easy points, and just disappear so he doesnt have to talk to anybody. And, all the name changes going into effect. Why is that?

if you google ymmss, you get ymmss.org then ymforums, and third matrixwatch. And, what quote do we get?


This site has paid out over $75 million so far, but its model for success is based a continual influx of new investors. Will it last?


Now, if you google STA, you get STA Travel, STA-Rite. Nothing to do with what is on hand. So, Google Success Through Advertising, and bam, all STAs promotional crap besides one link from MatrixWatch discussing Click Fraud. I bet the folks at Success Through Advertising are desperately trying to get that off googles first page.

But, honestly, any potential advertisers, do you think they are looking at Success Through Advertising (STA) on google? Of course not. If I'm going to advertise something, and STA approaches me, my first question to myself will be "What do I know of STA"? Never heard of it? Then that will be how much I will advertise with them. What would be the point advertising with a business I never heard of? I've heard of advertising on the SuperBowl, newspapers, Drudge Report, Some list, I've heard of alot of things. But, STA? And they claim to have paid out $100million in 3 years and I never heard of it?

That is the ultimate downfall. They make these outragous claims that they cant back up. There are 3 questions that ultimately fail them.

1. Have I heard of Success Through Advertising? No.
2. Do I know anybody who has heard of Success Through Advertising or even advertised with them? No.
3. Can Success Through Advertising provide me any advertising testimonials that I can verify myself? No.

But, we all do business on eBay, and we dont know who we are dealing with. So, thats when we do our homework using feedback or looking on the internet. I would like to think that I'm like most people, and would probably read, but mostly ignore any sites that appear to be totally against what Im interested in. Take Paypal for example. I think I've been to paypalsucks.com just one time. Maybe some itneresting reading material, but its not balanced and its not realistic.

And the only reason why anybody would give us any credibility because people like Esto comes here with their hit and runs, and it shows that supporters try to post here but it also shows all the unanswered questions they refused to answer. So, its their own crying that is giving us credibility.

So, I think we should make sure we use the correct termonology to make sure they cant continue their lies. YMMSS should be changed to Success Through Advertising (STA) and all the keywords and buzzwords should be changed as frequently as they change them, almost on a daily basis. I dont suggest changing old posts, but making sure new posts have the STA words of the week so when they are googled, the truth will still be known.

[drankoolaid]

I agree 100%

Success Through Advertising STA it is --

[Gringo]

These responses should be deleted soon:My guess would be that he is in much better financial shape than many of the members and he has probably profited more than most. I have no sympathy. Sorry folks.:applause:

I have no doubt that Kim is in better financial position that most IBA's after looking at archived pictures of his house in Belize
:yes:

[boatman189]

Looks like Kim asked JimH to play the sympathy card.



"little profit", "not in the best shape financially"lol Uh, what about the millions he tucked away while victims were jumping on board to double their money?

I have to wonder if there is something more behind this message. More than just "poor me, the rest of you shouldn't complain." Such as, is Kim starting to set up a scenario where he claims there is not enough cash flow, so he needs to fire staff and basically close up shop, or at least just put everything on autopilot?

Yep....I think it over...

[surfer]

Of course, Jim Hakim's statements can only
be true if Kim Inman is once again lying to
the member/affiliates/IBAs.

After all, weren't we recently told that
the money in the RFA is equal to revenue
generated minus operating expenses minus
Kim's 22% cut.

Or is the heroic Kim Inman digging up some
of the coffee cans buried in his Belize back
yard and using his own money?

Should the pay actually be zero dollars
and zero cents per week?

Is this 4 year old revolutionary/visionary
"business" so poor that they are now
operating at a deficit?

Even with the pathetically low payouts
the last 6 months, Kim Inman is still on
pace to pocket 6 figures with his 22%
take.

He's also probably earning some hefty
dividends with the millions he has
previously pocketed through his lies.

Yeah, I'm sure he's hurting lol :head:

[concreteman]

one can only hope that he truly mis-managed the funds ends up broke begging for money outside of wal-mart one day lol :crazy:

[ycchen]

I agree with Gringo and Webwatch, that silly plead is a soft-landing exit plan. The day of penny system is numbered. Prepare to jump ship......:shake: :head:

Dreamer, great arguement! In fact, you have been evalute the true value of STA business from day 1, and I hope your point gets through this time. :)

Surfer, you once said that I push the "close shop" card too hard, now do you think it is the time. :D

Actually, whether it is the time (to close shop) or not is not really important. What is really important is we get the registering lost ball rolling (click below) before STA dissappear for some stupid excuse that we are anticipating to come out any minute now.

[surfer]

Surfer, you once said that I push the "close shop" card too hard, now do you think it is the time. :D
Nope. ;) lol

[Gringo]

Well the whole thread that Jim started to try to drum up some sympathy for poor old Kim has been deleted. Just too many negative comments from people that saw through his B.S.:applause:

[drankoolaid]

-- :)

[Dreamer]

Wasnt the total for this week like $15k? So, kim pocketed around $3k and he's broke? I can make that kind of money in 2 months, and the guy is broke? Should I feel bad? When any legimitate business has to close down because they arent making any money the employees are the first to not get paid and just get fired, so at any point that kim needs to start conning people on the street to buy more pies, he can just fire his staff so he can keep up with his pie addiction.

And, why should it matter? Isnt the $19million coming in july? All he has to do is make sure he has a months worth of pies then he can get rich again.

[KimSUCKS!]

Maybe we can email the news media directly..I have a email address I can give for the "Abrams Report" on MSNBC...any takers?

[wisernow]

From Jim Hakkim on the forum:


"I hope you're on to a miracle that is going to be assisted from God's help & oversight, James, because we could really use this now."

Thought this might be amusing. The forum is getting A LOT of action right now from people who are upset. They are trying to temper their remarks so as not to be thrown out, but they are voicing concern.:applause:

[KimSUCKS!]

"I hope you're on to a miracle that is going to be assisted from God's help & oversight, James, because we could really use this now."

I interpret that as follows: You're going to need a miracle from God to get you out of the hole we've put you in. And you'll know better next time not to trust anyone..

Anyone agree?

[wisernow]

I think that's a fair statement, KS. Even though the members are being mannerly, I'm surprised that this thread in the YM forum hasn't been deleted!

[$$$$lost...]

wisernow give it a day or two, then it'll be with all the other"negative" remarks...gone

[Somebody]

Wasnt the total for this week like $15k? So, kim pocketed around $3k and he's broke? I can make that kind of money in 2 months, and the guy is broke?

And, why should it matter? Isnt the $19million coming in july? All he has to do is make sure he has a months worth of pies then he can get rich again.

it takes me 4 months to make $3,000. I can't wait for the $19,000,000 in July. Hubert ( Big Hump ) Humphrey's wife, Pat, told my 89 year old neighbor, "just hang in there, the $19,000,000 will be here in July".

[Somebody]

I can see where Kim would be broke with only $3,000 coming in. He has to pay his servants to polish the gold handles on all the toilets in his tropical resort. i'm sure that costs a tidy sum to keep the servants happy bringing him his caviar and havana cigars.

[ycchen]

it takes me 4 months to make $3,000. I can't wait for the $19,000,000 in July. Hubert ( Big Hump ) Humphrey's wife, Pat, told my 89 year old neighbor, "just hang in there, the $19,000,000 will be here in July". July 2006, or July 3006? :crazy:

[wisernow]

Posted by a YMMSS member on the forum Sat, 6/3.

My expectations here have taken such a 'kickin' over the last 12 months, if something major
(..and I do mean major) doesn't happen very soon, I can see me losing the last bit
of heart I have left in this

So what's going to happen in July that hasn't happened before? As far as I can tell, it's a huge secret.:crazy:

[KimSUCKS!]

I bet they'll shut down by December this year.

[Kim_Inmans_Butt]

Posted by a YMMSS member on the forum Sat, 6/3.

My expectations here have taken such a 'kickin' over the last 12 months, if something major
(..and I do mean major) doesn't happen very soon, I can see me losing the last bit
of heart I have left in this

So what's going to happen in July that hasn't happened before? As far as I can tell, it's a huge secret.:crazy:

Doesn't the RFA get flooded with all those extra EPC's soon?

[wisernow]

Doesn't the RFA get flooded with all those extra EPC's soon?

That's what is supposed to happen. My gut tells me that when July comes around there are going to be some really mad people. What excuse will they use now? I'm thinking that even the flock are going to be having some misgivings. Kim has his advertising site, but I believe the buying of EPCs will come to a screeching halt in July. Does he really need to keep scamming people out of more money to keep the site? I doubt it. I do think HE will continue to make money with it. And this "poor Kim" thing, quite frankly, makes me sick.

Surely they won't just walk away saying, "poor Kim...oh well the dear man tried.":crazy:

[ycchen]

If I remember correctly, the big thing in July is the termination of acceleration table, isn't it? I am sure that will happen. :shake:

[wisernow]

If I remember correctly, the big thing in July is the termination of acceleration table, isn't it? I am sure that will happen. :shake:

I believe that they said, referring to their hush hush important business, new "income streams" are supposed to be added as "certain retailers" come aboard. :crazy: