Is the Matrix Wave Over?

[pillsbury09]

Little action on these boards, and it seems surf programs and other online scams have taken over the attention the the once ever so popular Matrix. Am I right or wrong?

[avago181]

You are correct. Some sites, probably 4-5 worldwide, still keep up the pretence of being operational. One such site, recently put the names of Jokach and Watchdog, on its lists. This just shows that they are almost finished. It also proves that matrix site owners, have no business ethics and will do anything to try and scam people. Most payment processors will no longer deal with them.

[pillsbury09]

Thats good, now we just need to bring down surf proframs, mlm, and promo freebie sites.

[jokach]

I think you'll see that there are many less 'free' programs than there were in years past as well. For example, there was the whole 'FREE IPOD' craze, which seems to have lost alot of focus and seems to have fallen apart somewhat. Too many people caught on to the game that it takes a lot of time and effort to get it for free (like anything in life), same with the 'free pcs', 'free tvs', etc ..

jokach

[MatrixWatch]

Most payment processors will no longer deal with them.

And that is really the key to taking down these types of scams. Any strategy to halt new brands of internet fraud must prioritize freezing the money they have, and preventing them from collecting added revenue. After that, its just a matter of keeping pressure on them by raising awareness among current & potential customers, alerting the legal and government communities, and working to get the press involved.

A very simple & effective formula. Get this process rolling, and its just a slow and painful death for them.

[allan196622]

This is my first post. Hope I'm not repeating what has already been discussed.
I found a site www.adlandpro.com which links to www.pressmania.com where a guy called Carl Haavaldsen is promoting a power matrix called $7 miracle. There has been lots of interest in it, though he"s complained that some people are slow to sign up. A message from Thomas Thompson was quoted in one of the posts. I've read about him on this site. It"s a couple of weeks since the first post. If it is a scam I hope I can help to derail it.
To get to it log on to www.adlandpro.com Scroll down to local city search. Click on any city, then click Business, then Advertising 101:The Basics.

Does anyone have any info on adlandpro? I joined for free and got loads of emails from people wanting to be my "friend", including one which said "checked your profile.It looks great!" Do you know what was on my profile? Nothing! The words "rat" and "smell a" come to mind.

[Webwatch]

Hello Allan and welcome to Matrixwatch.

I thought the name Thomas Thompson rang a bell, I believe he's involved with the OPFM scheme which is discussed in quite an amusing fashion in these threads:

http://www.matrixwatch.org/forums/showthread.php?t=4189&highlight=opfm

http://www.matrixwatch.org/forums/showthread.php?t=3836&highlight=opfm

As far as adlandpro goes it just looks to me like a free advertising site that will always attract dodgy internet schemes like OPFM.

You'll always make new so called friends when they want you to invest in their scheme or join someones downline.

[charleymatey]

You are correct. Some sites, probably 4-5 worldwide, still keep up the pretence of being operational. One such site, recently put the names of Jokach and Watchdog, on its lists. This just shows that they are almost finished. It also proves that matrix site owners, have no business ethics and will do anything to try and scam people. Most payment processors will no longer deal with them.
And that is really the key to taking down these types of scams. Any strategy to halt new brands of internet fraud must prioritize freezing the money they have, and preventing them from collecting added revenue. After that, its just a matter of keeping pressure on them by raising awareness among current & potential customers, alerting the legal and government communities, and working to get the press involved.

I agree with most of what Watchdog said above.

Payment processors have indeed cracked down on these sites. However, some will still allow them to use their services, as long as they 'look' like they are trying to be business-like. An example of this would be Paypal. They would allow an account to be used for around 2-3 months before closing it down. The fnds however would simply be frozen for 6 months before being released to the site. It would therefore be easy to simply open up a new account everytime one is frozen, maintaining a steady roll of monies coming in and out.

The main problem for these sites was the lack of customers. eBay was the major marketplace for advertising, and they have cracked down hard. You now need a credit card whther buying or selling, which enables them to track 'potentially' criminal activity. It also stops these sites from selling on eBay. The main other ways of advertising would be by paying for adverts using search engines such as Google and Overture. However, these work out at not being cost-effective, and not worth it. It is very hard for these sites to draw the customers they need.

It is for this reason that I think the 'matrix scheme' is now dead.