Anyone got comments on Pro Wealth Solutions

[dayzee130]

i have been checking out this prowealthsolutions web site and have had someone calling me alot trying to get me to sign up. i am now a pre-enrolee hesitant to pay the $69.95 to join then whatever else costs they might come up with after you join. it does show people under me and indicates that i should receive a check if i sign up by every thursday by midnight. the man who keeps calling me talks to me for awhile, gave me his home phone number and web site info, is very friendly and knows alot about prowealthsolutions. has anyone joined this yet, are there extra fees to join other stuff once you upgrade to a member. do you really receive a check the following week. please email me at **PM for contact info** if you have any information at all on this business good or bad. i am extremely curiuos but have lost money last month with another business. i am a disabled 39 year old stay at home mother with little income. i cant afford to risk my money. but i need to find out more. Someone or Someone(s) please answer me.
thanks, Lisa in Tucson

[Trinket]

Lisa, I joined ProWealth on Aug. 15th. I haven't sponsored anyone yet as I am waiting to see if one really can make any money without sponsoring. I understand they pay once per month on spillover. With all the messages I've gotten telling me about the many thousands of pre-enrollees and a few thousand upgrades being added to my "powerline", and it still being in prelaunch it will be interesting to see what if anything I will receive. Those results will have a definite impact on whether or not I sponsor into ProWealth. After all, what got me to join was "$1,092 without sponsoring"!

I'll come back after "payday" and let you know.

By the way, if you join, be careful who you join under. Make sure it's somone who will be available to address your question. I had to contact my sponsor's sponsor as I couldn't even get hold of the guy who sent me the ProWealth info.

[Webwatch]

Hi dazyee130 and welcome to matrixwatch.

We have a thread with some comments on Prowealthsolutions:
http://www.matrixwatch.org/forums/showthread.php?p=44061#post44061

As you will see I'm not a fan of these types of programs as they always end up collapsing leaving many out of pocket.
The spillover promise is just a ruse to get you to pay up.

You may be called and pestered to join this program but I would personally resist and stay well away.

I've removed the email address from your post as it leaves you vunerable to e-mail addy harvesting programs and excessive amounts of spam.

[surfer]

Welcome to Matrix Watch dayzee130.

If they don't have a product or service
that you really think can be a benefit
to you and that you can sell, don't
join.

The make $1092 without recruiting is
garbage and they already have too
many involved for that to happen
for people joining now.

And Trinket, please be careful.

[dayzee130]

Trinket, this is lisa thanks for letting me know about your experience. i seem to have a good guy trying to get me to join he gave me his home phone number is very knowegable and nice and seems to know what he is talking about. he will spend time on the phone with you answering any questions you have. he calls me trying to get me to upgrade to member almost every other day. i get emails from prowealth telling me that people have already became members under me and i am guaranteed a paycheck if i sign up by midnight on thursday then those people go away. but im sure there will be more back next week. im sorry you had a bad experience but did you advertise at all and if so, what site did you use to get a mailing list. how much did it cost and for how many people. if you did that didnt anyone even join as a pre-enrollee? after you pay the $69.95 which includes the first month right, does it bring you to the access to tools, training and income generating stratgies for just pennies a day. did you find out how much pennies a day or what a month that really is or is it included in your price you already paid. does the site bring you to a bunch of stuff that you have to pay alot of money for to advertise your business. i would like to hear your thoughts back on these statements if you dont mind. have you spoken with anyone else in your group you are enrolled in, what is their take on it, are they making any money. if you know i would be very interested. Thanks, Lisa






Lisa, I joined ProWealth on Aug. 15th. I haven't sponsored anyone yet as I am waiting to see if one really can make any money without sponsoring. I understand they pay once per month on spillover. With all the messages I've gotten telling me about the many thousands of pre-enrollees and a few thousand upgrades being added to my "powerline", and it still being in prelaunch it will be interesting to see what if anything I will receive. Those results will have a definite impact on whether or not I sponsor into ProWealth. After all, what got me to join was "$1,092 without sponsoring"!

I'll come back after "payday" and let you know.

By the way, if you join, be careful who you join under. Make sure it's somone who will be available to address your question. I had to contact my sponsor's sponsor as I couldn't even get hold of the guy who sent me the ProWealth info.

[YourOwnFreedom]

First I would like to say Hi and introduce myself. Single mom in the USA who is involved with ProWealth and has been since pre-launch.

:applause:

I want to say if you read the emails carefully, it does not guarantee that you make over 1,000 without sponsoring. It says that you can make that amount without sponsoring.

You have to choose your own path to financial Freedom. Now yes a Matrix will eventually fill up, but in no way will you recieve over 1,000 the following month. That is just not logical. You have to wait for more spillover to be created.

Look at it this way, if you could make over 1,000 for just investing 60.00 guaranteed, EVERYONE would be in it.. and they would loose money.

My matrix is filling, but no way did i expect over 1,000 with the first few months. I am in early .. and doing very very well.

You have to look at the entire payplan, the matrix is actually the weakest half of the payplan. The power is in the matching bonuses and the bonus pools.

If you join and ADVERTISE then you will begin to Create Your own wealth. I put out of my pocket the initial 60.00 fee plus 200.00 on advertising methods online for myself. In return for the first month I made just approx. 1,200.00. Now in my opinion that is a profit. BUT IT WAS NOT ALL FROM THE MATRIX... no way.......things do not happen over night like that.

You are setting yourself up for disappointment if you think you can START or Join any business and GET RICH overnight... that does not happen anywhere in Life. You have to WORK for it.

I made my money in many areas with prowealth and it is a great PROGRAM and they have a Fantastic payplan.

First you get a commission of 25.00/ person that you bring into the business and that is how the WEEKLY checks work.

Then you have a Powerpool bonus depending on that level you are at.

Example : my first week advertising I brought in many people and made 350.00 just in the 25.00 fast start bonus.

The Monthly check was made up of my

Matrix
Matching Bonuses (this is the real power in the program, that is why you have to advertiseand create your own wealth... noone will do it for you)
PowerPoolBonus
and so on.

Remember when joining anything online....................You make that decision to sign up and say yes. Now you have to help yourself and not rely on spillover and others to do it for you.

If you are serious and want to make money you can make very good money in ProWealth.. as I am and many of my team members.

But remember if you started a business offline as a painter or carpenter, etc...

You have to advertise your business and let people know about it. You have the expense of buying a van and tools, etc..

NOTHING IN LIFE COMES FOR FREE.. you have to work at it.

So that being said, If you are a serious person and want to Create Your own wealth then BY all means join ProWealth and Advertise and you will see results. NOT OVERNIGHT but it will happen.

Rome was not built in a day either you know,, lol :nono:

Everyone have a great day/evening in your part of the world.

[Webwatch]

Hello Sheri and welcome to Matrixwatch.
Thanks for your honest appraisal of Prowealthsolutions. ;)

Let me guess you are also a member of probuilderplus. lol

We have a thread discussing PWS if you wish to comment over there.
http://www.matrixwatch.org/forums/sh...4061#post44061

[YourOwnFreedom]

Yes, I am also a member of ProBuilder and I am sure you knew that by clicking my on website link.

No need for laughter. I am making money in both programs.

Everyone has the right to their own opinion.

I also have done other things online and nothing has made me money this easy or quickly, so laugh all you like.

I still say ProWealth is a money maker as long as you do not expect SOMETHING for NOTHING... people are so lazy now a days. THEY expect everything handed to them.

Thats why I say Create Your Own Wealth!! Noone will do it for you.

Ciao for now :bow:

[Webwatch]

Hi Sheri
Yes, I am also a member of ProBuilder and I am sure you knew that by clicking my on website link.

No need for laughter. I am making money in both programs.
Funny on both counts.
First I cant find any link in your post and second because PBP is dying thats why PWS was launched-you see its Musical Pyramid schemes for Mr Glinsky and his crew and PWS is just the latest incarnation.
Everyone has the right to their own opinion. I couldn't agree more
I also have done other things online and nothing has made me money this easy or quickly, so laugh all you like.Good for you but thats not even funny.
I still say ProWealth is a money maker as long as you do not expect SOMETHING for NOTHING... people are so lazy now a days. THEY expect everything handed to them.

Thats why I say Create Your Own Wealth!! Noone will do it for you.
Yep I sure agree with this thats why Pyramid Schemes are rife and making money off others with promises of huge returns is what these are all about.
Strange how you use the phrase Something for Nothing because basically thats what PWS and PBP are all about, you send me money and get others to send you money, sounds pretty lazy to me.

But the products on offer are of real value aren't they.:head:
Anyway best of luck in your efforts, hopefully you wont find any recruits here.

[mechanic]

Hi Sheri

Funny on both counts.
First I cant find any link in your post and second because PBP is dying thats why PWS was launched-you see its Musical Pyramid schemes for Mr Glinsky and his crew and PWS is just the latest incarnation.
I couldn't agree more
Good for you but thats not even funny.

Yep I sure agree with this thats why Pyramid Schemes are rife and making money off others with promises of huge returns is what these are all about.
Strange how you use the phrase Something for Nothing because basically thats what PWS and PBP are all about, you send me money and get others to send you money, sounds pretty lazy to me.

But the products on offer are of real value aren't they.:head:
Anyway best of luck in your efforts, hopefully you wont find any recruits here.

How can you convince people to continue to pay $30.00 a month for items that can be obtained for free or a one time charge and the people want them,PBP was the same and members dropped in droves and from last count are doing the same in PWS, so the next one will be out shortly and will be better than the previous two. Unbelievably how people continue to get rooked in these, you cannot make money unless you recruit, people just dont get it, who will pay you if no one pays to join?



Layton

[Webwatch]

I agree Layton,
For some reason PWS was not well received to start with due to the Glinsky connection.

I wonder what the next one will be called, bet it starts Pro how about
'PROstitute your friends so Glinsky can get rich'- too long maybe but a fair an accurate description I think.

[nodraero]

Please let me settle the argument once and for all and try to help you to see that prowealth solutions and all Ben Glinsky's businesses are scams. This is the genuine truth. I spoke to Ben Glinsky, the owner of prowealthsolutions, on the telephone yesterday. (24th October 2006)He admitted to me that he owns a site called http://guaranteedpreenrollees.com (prowealthsolutions suport are recomending it to members to help them recruit!) This site (Glinsky's own site)charges as follows:(copied and pasted from the site)>>>>
"Select a Lead Package
25 Guaranteed Preenrollees One Time $99.95 Monthly Autoship BEST VALUE $79.95
50 Guaranteed Preenrollees One Time $189.95 Monthly Autoship BEST VALUE $154.95
100 Guaranteed Preenrollees One Time $349.95 Monthly Autoship BEST VALUE $299.95
200 Guaranteed Preenrollees One Time $649.95 Monthly Autoship BEST VALUE $579.95 "
This means the owner of prowealthsolutions is charging his own members astronomical amounts of money to send Falsely represented people (I refrain from saying fictitious people)to their landing pages as preenrollees saying that they are interested in the business with no guarantee that they will become members. Can anyone see the irony or the illegality of this. CAN ANYONE now say that prowealthsolutions is not a scam, I don't think so. All this information is correct and genuine and I urge people to visit Http://guaranteedpreenrollees.com to see for themselves. I have proof that the support team of prowealthsolutions are recommending this site to their own members because they sent me an email recommending it. (I will post it if anyone needs evidence or if PWS supporters deny it.) Obviously I suppose everyone reading this will gather I was caught by the scam, which I was but I got out quick and lost $79.95. The usual $69.95 and $10.00 for a debit card from Globalxchange.com (I am also looking for information linking this site to Ben Glinsky but have found none yet. Any help would be very much appreciated.) I am new to the internet (about 12 months) but I managed to find out who owns prowealthsolutions (this is guaranteed because he told me himself when I asked him) I found his home address, phone number and cell phone number and alot more information about him.I do not want this post removed so I did not enter his personal details, I have no qualms about supplying them personally to anyone that wants them for the purposes of legal action reporting etc. I sent a complaint report to the consumer protection division of the Attorney Generals office in Texas today but did not mention http://guaranteedpreenrollees.com as I was not sucked into that particular section of the fraud. I am not in the USA myself so I don't know how much good my report will do.I will give as much help as can to anyone that wants to report this man and his business to the authorities in the USA. I would also appreciate very much any advice or help anyone can offer me.I look forward to any replies, and I sincerely hope that this post helps someone not to get duped by Ben Glinsky and his scams.

I have just found new information: preenrolles can be bought on guaranteedpreenrollees.com for any of eight matrix scams.... they are:ForteFreedom, FreedomRocksBuilder, HighOctaneBuilder, MyWavePro,OctaneBuilder, ProBuilderExpress, ProBuilderPlus and the aforementioned ProWealthSolutions. I have no doubt what so ever that Ben Glinsky owns all these scams and is duping everyone that uses this site. Is it not time the Authorities did something to stop this Fraud.

[nodraero]

All information I receive will be treated in the strictest confidence.

[Arzel]

All information I receive will be treated in the strictest confidence.

Thanks for the info nodraero, I am glad you have reported this scam.

For future reference, just make a note of a duplicate post and a mod will delete it for you, I am not sure if it is possible for a non-mod to delete posts.

[nodraero]

I just investigated FreedomRocksBuider, one of the sites you can buy preenrollees for on guaranteedpreenrollees.com. It is registered with godaddy
and below are the details copied and pasted. Please note contact addresses are the same as prowealthsolutions. Now we have definite proof that Glinsky is behind all these scams. The phone number is real I spoke to him yesterday on this number.


Registrant:
SMSInc (FreedomRocksBuilder)
1565 W. Main St. Ste. 208 - PM
Lewisville, Texas 75067
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: FREEDOMROCKSBUILDER.COM
Created on: 03-Jun-06
Expires on: 03-Jun-07
Last Updated on: 23-Aug-06

Administrative Contact:
Glinsky, Ben benglinsky@yahoo.com
3634 Long Prairie Rd.
Flower Mound, Texas 75022
United States
8174909297

Technical Contact:
Glinsky, Ben benglinsky@yahoo.com
3634 Long Prairie Rd.
Flower Mound, Texas 75022
United States
8174909297

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.FREEDOMROCKSBUILDER.COM
NS2.FREEDOMROCKSBUILDER.COM

[thelastboyscout]

The guys that started Pro Wealth Solutions started other matrixes that were exactly the same. Every time they die, they repackage it and "launch" another "biggest thing ever" scam. Of course, they clean up every time by playing on the hopes and dreams of everyone who wasted their valuable time on each one. PWS is just another in a long stream of flimsy, unrealistic businesses by the same scam artists. They say you can make over $1000 a month WHETHER OR NOT you ever personally sponsor anyone. Many people I know did this program and never sponsored anyone. However, after 6-9 months, none of them made ONE DIME. Of course if people go out and trick others into joining, they might make some money, but that's not the way they worded this program from the beginning. They said, "whether or not you sponsor anyone, you will make money" because they knew they would sucker more people into Pro Wealth Solutions that way. It's amazing to me that people like this aren't in prison. The main reason is they're stealing only a little from a lot of people and they know most or all of them will just say "Oh, well" and not report them to the FBI or IFCC, as they should. PWS should stand for "Preying on Weak Souls". If you're in it, get out. If you haven't done it, run away.