WAC value poll

[Casandra]

It would be great if we could have a vote responding to these items.
please feel free to explain your vote in discussion below.

It would be great if you would invite our STA friends in other forums to come vote in our poll.

I returned Survey credits - they were only a tax liability for me
I kept Survey credits - they were worth $10 each to me
I returned Accelerator credits - they were only a tax liability for me
I kept Accelerator credits - they were worth $10 each to me
I never knew that I could return Survey credits
I never knew that I could return Accelerator credits
I returned both Survey credits and Accelerator Table credits and got a 1099 anyway.
I tried to sell WACs and no one will buy them
I tried to give away WACs and no one would take them
I tried to close my STA account and STA refused to close it.

[RighteousAnger]

Great idea, Casandra! :applause:

Additionally, I want to go on record here by saying that for the WAC I returned to STA, I was not compensated in any way, shape or form.

[renken]

My account was closed.. uh.. disabled, in June 2006. So, I voted I never knew that I could return Survey credits, so I guess I sort of returned them to... :crazy:

[drzod]

I got kicked out before STA, WAC's, the survey, etc. What a disaster this has been.

Keep filing those complaints!

[2gd2btru]

I think there should be another category to check that says, "I never knew I had received these credits (until I received a 1099-M)." That would be the one I would check.

[Casandra]

I think there should be another category to check that says, "I never knew I had received these credits (until I received a 1099-M)." That would be the one I would check.
Thanks for the suggestion, but the forum only allows 10 items in that list. I'd add it otherwise.

If you never knew that you received the credits, you must have abandoned your account. Can you get an email from the help desk telling you when the last was that you logged in? If it was more than 6 months before the end of the year, STA should have made your account contents "forfeited". Read the Affiliate Terms item 18. That means they should have taken all the credits back out of that account and there would have been nothing in there at the end of the year to tax.

I sent the Helpless Desk a ticket asking them to tell me why they are not operating in accordance with their published Affiliate Terms and I gave them the link to their Terms page and quoted section 18. I asked them why they did not remove the credits from my account when I asked them to. Finally I got a reply to my question. They said they had to pass my question to "management" as they could be of no further help to me.

[RighteousAnger]

I sent the Helpless Desk a ticket asking them to tell me why they are not operating in accordance with their published Affiliate Terms and I gave them the link to their Terms page and quoted section 18. I asked them why they did not remove the credits from my account when I asked them to. Finally I got a reply to my question. They said they had to pass my question to "management" as they could be of no further help to me.

lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

I am just thinking of all those times "management" referred IBA to the helpdesk for answers.

The buck-passing just never stops, does it? ;)

KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!!
:bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:

[skippy]

Before you can pass something on to managment, don't you actually have to...

Ahhhhhhhhh.......

have managment? :confused:

[drankoolaid]

Thank You For The Chuckle -
Better than Good!

Best Regards,
Michael

[2gd2btru]

If you never knew that you received the credits, you must have abandoned your account. Can you get an email from the help desk telling you when the last was that you logged in? If it was more than 6 months before the end of the year, STA should have made your account contents "forfeited". Read the Affiliate Terms item 18. That means they should have taken all the credits back out of that account and there would have been nothing in there at the end of the year to tax.



I did as you suggested and here's the reply I received:
"Date of last successful Login

Hello,

The dates are as follows.

Last Backoffice Login: 10/11/2005 9:33:51 AM
Last Ad Site Login: 9/13/2005 3:05:46 PM
Closed Date: 7/12/2006 12:14:58 PM
Your account was closed due to 6 months or more of inactivity.

Thank You
Christine (Nikki) STA HelpDesk Staff"

I'll just put that in my file (along with the Affiliate Terms). That should be proof enough of the fraud regarding the 1099-M. That Item 18, pretty much sums it up for me. Thanks, Casandra, for the suggestion. I really appreciate that and all you are doing to help us all with this mess.:bow: :yes:

[2gd2btru]

Oh! I had an "Aha" moment after I posted that. I noticed that they didn't close the account in April which would have been after 6 months of inactivity. They waited until July, nine months after the last successful login! That really makes me wonder when they posted those bogus WACs into the account. And if they didn't post them until July, they posted them to an account which, according to their Affiliate Terms, should have been closed three months earlier for inactivity. Sneaky, aren't they?

[drankoolaid]

They are crooks --

Everything and I mean everything in this
entire YMMSS / STA scam has been calculated
to give these thieves some sort of 'advantage.'

Remember the 'survey'? Word on the street is
the survey was done EXACTLY to hide money
ie: to 'enable' STA to give these little 'gifts'
called WAC's EXACTLY so they could 1099M you
for their own tax and money laundering purposes.

Proof you ask? Why of course we need proof --

Stay tuned

Best Regards,
Michael

PS - Closing accounts was absolutely NOT
a priority for STA - In other words it would have
been to their detriment to 'close accounts.'

They needed the accounts OPEN to successfully
launder the money -- that has been done - now they
are closing -- that part of the game is at least over.

[RighteousAnger]

Before you can pass something on to managment, don't you actually have to...

Ahhhhhhhhh.......

have managment? :confused:


TOO-SHAAY, Skippy! :p

And, on that note, there would have to be a helpdesk to pass it FROM, eh? :yes:


Let's see .... if a note is passed from Mgmt to Cust.Svc (or vice versa) ... and nobody is there to hear it ... was there ever actually a note? :crazy: lol

[RighteousAnger]

Remember the 'survey'? Word on the street is
the survey was done EXACTLY to hide money
ie: to 'enable' STA to give these little 'gifts'
called WAC's EXACTLY so they could 1099M you
for their own tax and money laundering purposes.

Proof you ask? Why of course we need proof --

Stay tuned


It sickened me to hear that there is a resurrection effort - and to see the bots lining up for it ("may I have another, Sir?") - but now I can just hear the pneumatic-powered nail gun on the coffin of YMMSS/STA. :applause: