Colon End Parenthesis Ponzi by Trevor Reed COLLAPSES!!!

[Ferret]

http://www.moneymakergroup.com/index.php?showtopic=26321&st=2340

Dear Members,

We have been making continuous efforts to ensure the longevity of the
program through various licensing and security measures.

However, yesterday we became aware of a significant
administrative deficiency that has resulted in the halting of transactions
to and from CEP.
We are doing everything in our power to seek the highest assistance in
fixing this problem as quickly as possible so we can continue to support our members.

Unfortunately, we do not have a time frame for when we will resume. CEP
forums and accounts will remain open, but daily monetary transactions
cannot be conducted during this time.
As we are able, we will keep you informed. Further information is not available,
so we request that you do not submit tickets or e-mails regarding this matter.

Thank you for your patience and continued support and prayers.

Thank you,

All the staff at CEP

This is an official email from CEP to all its members

[Webwatch]

Is this an official announcement from CEP.

Does 'administrative deficiency' translate to run out of cash.

Although this appears on MMG any link to an official CEP page would be appreciated.

[Webwatch]

I'm answering my own question again but it seems some CEP'ers may have had this in an e-mail:
http://www.colonendparenthesis.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2955

Might take a while for this page to load as the forum server could be experiencing a bit of panic overload, no doubt generated by all the CEP'ers after more info.

[solidsnake]

Have any of you the inside track to the reason CEP is not allowing the movement of monies in and out of system? Do you?

I know you don't Ferret. You and I just chatted. And you still haven't answered my question about Trevor. Here's the interesting thing about, you reply to your own posts. You leave nothing to the imagination other than the fact that you have no premise for any of your arguments. You stand only by your past with these systems, then you pursue other people's happiness in order to destroy it. The system is failing. Only your half-minded remarks to defame someone you don't even know.

Why don't you quit while you're ahead?

[Ferret]

I gotta say that the silence from Trevor E Reed at the CEP
and MMG forum is deafening lol :D :p

[solidsnake]

Well, if you're talking about his most recent silence. It's because he's out of town. Again, a post without knowing anything. What do you have? A bachelor's in BS? If this forum is really for creating awareness, you've made it very clear that you know nothing about anything. It's very sad to think that people like you are allowed to share your opinions. You don't put any thought into what you're going to say. You've shown that over the last hour or so.

[Ferret]

Well, if you're talking about his most recent silence. It's because he's out of town. Again, a post without knowing anything. What do you have? A bachelor's in BS? If this forum is really for creating awareness, you've made it very clear that you know nothing about anything. It's very sad to think that people like you are allowed to share your opinions. You don't put any thought into what you're going to say. You've shown that over the last hour or so.
What? Trevor Reed is the Cult leader of a multi-million dollar Ponzi and he
doesn't have a cell phone or a treo, etc with email?

What a lame excuse for not being in touch with his devotees

How do you know he is out of town?
What is your relationship with Trevor?

Anyway if he is out of contact what about Clayton, Chris, Ginger or Earl?

What are their excuses?

Besides I don't believe that you know where Trevor Reed is anyway

layton
Moderator
Joined: 05 Jan 2007
Posts: 487
Location: Houston, Texas
Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 10:21 pm Post subject:

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Ladies and Gentlemen, all of us including Skye and Pam and Sunshine were all blind sided and do not know any more than what you have read on the updatyes posted on the sites and in the E-Mails that were sent out, I am sorry, but no one has been able to get in touch with any of the site owners as of yet. As soon as we do know some thing we will let you know, Myself I did not know anything was wrong since I was gone all day, so I really found out about it after all of you did, all we are doing is basing our oppinion on the past record of the owners, we do not have any inside info, if we did ,we would tell you.

Layton

[Webwatch]

Thought I would leave this alone for a while as the CEP'Members (or Colon Enders as I like to call them) have enough on their plates at the moment without me sticking my 1p worth in but I can't resist any longer.

Those of us familiar with how Ponzi forums operate will know how 2 factions will occur after CEP admins announcement on Friday-There will be those who want answers and are starting to get a little suspicous at the moment and those cheerleading type (you know the ones) who will be backing Trevor and co to the hilt with usual cliches like, 'keep the faith', 'Trust Trevor', 'Trevor has always been Honest with us', 'We are in Gods hands and everything will be OK', 'Think positive and only good things will happen' etc etc etc.

So whats really happening then- Well only Trevor really knows for sure but one of the most Likely scenarios is that CEP have been given a cease and desist order of somekind or even a freezing of CEP/Trevors accounts, which would explain the lack of feedback from Trevor as he might have to wait till
Monday to get in touch with the Bank.

Just speculating of course and to be fair to Trevor maybe all he has is a software glitch/computer crash of somekind and he is working hard to fix things.

So with the Colon Enders crying out for more info what does Trevor come up with:

Well this:
http://www.colonendparenthesis.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3009
Thank you! - 05/20/2007 7:40:38 am
Hi, Everybody. I just wanted to thank you for all the supportive e-mails, texts, and calls I have received over the last few days. Know that we are working hard behind the scenes doing our best to keep everybody safe. Thanks SO much for your patience and prayers. We will keep you informed as we are able. Trevor

'Keep everybody safe':eek: Talk about making things worse-could this mean that all CEP records have been seized and all members of this run the risk of being prosected. [/scaremongering]

Interesting to watch this develop although there is one other possibility.

A clever ponzi admin could fake a problem and then come back a few days later and say everything has been sorted, so when there is a real problem or an exit stratergy is required there is a longer timeframe to play with.

[Daywalker]

Have any of you the inside track to the reason CEP is not allowing the movement of monies in and out of system? Do you?

I know you don't Ferret. You and I just chatted. And you still haven't answered my question about Trevor. Here's the interesting thing about, you reply to your own posts. You leave nothing to the imagination other than the fact that you have no premise for any of your arguments. You stand only by your past with these systems, then you pursue other people's happiness in order to destroy it. The system is failing. Only your half-minded remarks to defame someone you don't even know.

Why don't you quit while you're ahead?


Thats right ferret has no proof and your right why does'nt ferret quit while he's ahead maybe does'nt have what it takes. Besides all the stupid childlish remarks that make no sense and also the horriable grammar he writes.
:head: :nono:

[Webwatch]

Thats right ferret has no proof and your right why does'nt ferret quit while he's ahead maybe does'nt have what it takes. Besides all the stupid childlish remarks that make no sense and also the horriable grammar he writes. I don't want to steal Ferrets thunder but you do remember your first post don't you Mr Wolfy. :)

'horriable grammar he writes'--I may have just had a bladder malfunction, seriously.
Could we perhaps stay on topic if possible.

[Ferret]

Thats right ferret has no proof and your right why does'nt ferret quit while he's ahead maybe does'nt have what it takes. Besides all the stupid childlish remarks that make no sense and also the horriable grammar he writes.
:head: :nono:
How dare you criticise my Grandma.......

Who the are you ferret you make no sense to me and i dont fear you at all?

i really wish you would stop posting stupid questions about CEP you have no proff(SIC) there a scam i've made more money with CEP than you will ever have.

It just goes to show how childlish you are for having no sense and those stupid childlish remarks your probly(SIC) not even a member in CEP so why dont you go away or i'll make you go away.
I'm ready to do battle with you except your no match to this real lycanthrope i'll ripp(SIC) you apart and devour your soul.

So if you say CEP'S a scam show real proff )SIC) not some made up **** that does'nt make sense. And copying and pasteing BS all over the forum.

I don't want to steal Ferrets thunder but you do remember your first post don't you Mr Wolfy Damn you WW

http://www.moneymakergroup.com/index.php?showtopic=26321&st=2445

[Daywalker]

I don't want to steal Ferrets thunder but you do remember your first post don't you Mr Wolfy. :)

'horriable grammar he writes'--I may have just had a bladder malfunction, seriously.
Could we perhaps stay on topic if possible.

You lost me there Analweb horriable grammar is what your writting above it makes no sense i'm going to make your life's a living hell on this forum and from now on your a$$$$ are mine. I'm strating to think your from another country big mistake messing with the U.S will kill all of you ferrets and Analwebs.
:swear: :flame: :head: :head: :head:

[Ferret]

You lost me there Analweb horriable grammar is what your writting above it makes no sense i'm going to make your life's a living hell on this forum and from now on your a$$$$ are mine. I'm strating to think your from another country big mistake messing with the U.S will kill all of you ferrets and Analwebs.
:swear: :flame: :head: :head: :head:

lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol :D :p

I gotta go change my depends :crazy: lol

strating!!! lol :crazy: :p

horriable!!! :rolleyes: lol

writting!!! :D

Daywalker, please stop before I die lol or is that your evil werewolf plan? :D :p

[Daywalker]

lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol :D :p

I gotta go change my depends :crazy: lol

strating!!! lol :crazy: :p

horriable!!! :rolleyes: lol

writting!!! :D

Daywalker, please stop before I die lol or is that your evil werewolf plan? :D :p


You lost me there your still posting horriable grammar all over this matrixwatch forum. Yea you better go change your depends lost me again there what a loser.
:crazy: :nono: :flame: :swear: :rant: :head:

[mercinary]

Folks:

If you have personal insults or personal conversations you would like to carry on with, please take them to a private medium (i.e. private messages).

-Merc

[Ferret]

http://www.coastin88.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1811&highlight=

Delaine
Joined: 15 May 2007
Posts: 6
Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 9:57 am Post subject: For Serious Consideration by Admin

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Folks, I'm sure trevor has "all the bases" covered...at least up to a point.

I just read this in another forum, and thought it worthy of posting here.
BOTTOM LINE...WE NEED FULL PROTECTION in view of the present political climate here in the USA !...just wanted to share this with you..




If anyone who has close ties with Trevor, please pass this along to him, as follows: ( Hopefully all of this is ALREADY in the "works")

Delaine
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QUOTE:

"It would not surpise me one bit to find out that (one or more posters) is an agent and
works for the US Gov. Or is a person that has close ties to one or
more Gov. agents and thinks s/he is doing something good for their
country. That is why they are relentless in their attacks against CEP.

You will never talk sense into an individual like **. They are obviously
brainwashed,:rolleyes: so everybody can give up on that.

The best thing CEP Admin can do is to move all CEP/CEPT operations
offshore, preferably to Belize or Panama so that no part of their business
is on US soil. Panama has no lack of banks and modern infrastructure.
It would be a great location for their business to move to. CEP Admin
should have no trouble wiring funds to us, mailing bank checks, or setting
up ATM/Debit cards for our use. Not sure about ACH transfers, but
seems like they should work between Panama and the USA. Here is
some bank/financial INFO with regards to Panama:

www.panaconsul.com/pages/banking.htm
www.businesspanama.com/investing/opportunities/financial_service.php


In fact, according to the legal council offered at the following website, a
business such as CEP could start their own bank in Panama or some
other country:

http://www.panamalaw.org/own_your_own_offshore_bank.html

Since CEP makes 4 times on the money we invest to them, CEP's CEO must have a tremendous amount of profits in reserve by now. :rolleyes: :eek:
He could actually either buy or build a bank in Panama and that could
be the possible location for their CEPTrust Money Transmitter.

While they are bulding a bank, they might as well buy/build a Financial
Investment Institution. Become a worldwide investment company. So
they are a licensed broker, etc. All the things CEP needs for customers
to make legal investments through them. This website might be a starting
place for such ideas:

Offshore Brokerage License:
http://www.panamabrokerage.info/

They also offer INFO about "Visa and Master Card Distribution Programs."

More brokerage license links are here:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=offshore+brokerage+license&btnG=Search


Anyway, these are just some ideas. I think that as long as CEP remains
in the USA, they will be under the attack by various people and depart-
ments. It is NOT gettting better folks, with the Patriot Act, things are only
going to get worse.

Look at e-gold.com. They do not qualify for a money transmitter license.
Yet, the US Gov recently filed 3 allegations against them for operating
an unlicensed money transmitting business.

I believe e-gold.com will have to cut all ties with the US and move
totally offshore or they will not survive in their present form.

And I think CEP/CEPTrust is in the same boat because the US
Gov. is not going to allow a business to pay its customers 60%
every 30 days.
It is just that simple. They will come up with
allegations sooner or later that CEP is offering an investment,
is not licensed to sell securities, does not satisfy SEC regulations, etc.

They will come up with a dozen reasons to freeze their business.
And to make sure they shut them down, CEP will be accused of
money laundering (just like e-gold.com!). And naturally, that implies
funding of terrorists, so they can use the Patriot Act against CEP.

If anybody has any close ties to CEP Admin, I wish you could get this
message across to them. CEP Admin "thinks" they can operate legally,
but just as e-gold.com has been attacked by the ABC boys and will
CONTINUE to be attacked, so will CEP since TROLLS such as PN
will continue making complaints to anybody or any US Departments
(SEC, FTC, State Attorney Generals, etc.) that s/he thinks can cause
trouble with CEP.

If CEP Admin should wake up and decide to move operations to another
country, they should consider some of the ideas found near the end of
my post

The above information is no longer displayed at HighSecured.com, but
you can view it in my post above. They offer some interesting ideas on
how to structure your business such that you maximize asset protection.
They recommend that "clients avoid placing all of their "eggs" in a single
entity or at times, a single jurisdiction." Instead, they "recommend that
multiple offshore entities and possibly multiple locations be used."

HighSecured should be able to give CEP some guidance and ideas:

http://www.highsecured.com/
http://www.highsecured.com/financial_price_us.html

This post is meant to offer some thoughts and ideas so as to help increase
CEP's longevity and freedom. When structuring offshore legal entities,
there are many variables, so one needs to obtain truly professional legal
advice. Finding such advice can be a project in itself.

END QUOTE:


adlc
Joined: 20 Dec 2006
Posts: 39
Location: LA LA Land
Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 7:09 pm Post subject:

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recently i read in another post that some members were going to enable the beast by paying taxes on their earnings here,I am stupefied by that,,,,,,,The IRS code applies to taxpayers only, yet the vast majority
of Americans do not fit that criteria...get a copy of the IRS code, study it and you'll realize how hoodwinked we are.

KT_Event
Joined: 13 Mar 2007
Posts: 103
Location: Space
Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 11:45 pm Post subject:

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Well, C88 is safe right? Because we pay taxes on our earnings? Why not just close the other programs and leave only C88 up? why so many anyway?

Trev said he made our money from investing it in other businesses, so why would each of his programs be a different investment place? He would be investing all the money from all his programs to the same places right? So there isnt a need for all this headache, unless this is all still beta, in which each new program he starts, is better than the previous.

I reckon close CEP, move CEPT offshore, and keep C88 up. Move everyones funds from those others, to C88, and we got 30K people in C88 making it bigger and better...

But you know, whatever. Am I even talking english

[Ferret]

http://www.coastin88.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1816

maladil
Joined: 28 Dec 2006
Posts: 183
Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 10:41 pm Post subject: Could this be the source of the low % ?

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I'll keep it brief with little extra speculation. It's possible someone else has speculated this. If so, I'm sorry for the re-post, but wading through all the threads that are moving way too fast is giving me a head ache.

1) We had a notice go out that CEP had an administrative error so they locked down transactions of CEP.

2) The same day, the daily % of C88 and CEPCoast was terrible compared to the previous days.

Speculation

It is possible that a large chunk of the daily % for both programs came from CEP investing in both programs to help keep the % up. When CEP had its problems that locked out CEP from buying more ads, then if it was a very large contributer, the daily % would be terrible without the main supporter actively purchasing.

This explains the need to re-tool the sites if they have come to believe that they can't rely on CEP being there to boost the numbers each day, and why the admins of C88 haven't said what is going on or why they needed to re-tool so abruptly while by a matter of pure coincidence, CEP is not conducting transactions.

I know for a fact that admins have said in the past that CEP and C88 are linked financially. I raised a concern when this came out that problems in one could possibly then translate to problems in both. They answered that this would not be the case because of all those streams of revenue.

Now, this theory explains the problems C88 and CEPCoast are having, but does not address the original problem with CEP.

Remember folks, I don't have any inside knowledge. I'm only posting this because I think there might be others out there that know things that I don't and could fill in some blanks. “No, No”, you might be saying to yourselves, “It's not possible that I maladil doesn't know something.” Well, friends, it is possible. It's just rare, and this is one of those rare times.
Bingo!!!
You got it!
Its one big Ponzi with money being shuffled around between all the programs

Its a house of cards that can collapse at the slightest problem

There is a post here that quotes the admin of one of the surf sites
that says that CEP is putting money into it

[Ferret]

Dave Ramsey Radio Financial Expert says CEP is a Scam (http://www.colonendparenthesis.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3024&sid=5faedea70e6e2013e0b2a6096f8a3852)

GARY
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Posts: 125
Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 10:37 pm Post subject: Dave ramsey show

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Saturday it almost floored me to turn on the radio and here(SIC) Dave ramsey (which for those that dont know is a finical(SIC) expert) answering a call about ceptrust.
Ive not been in this long but I think if we would just keep everything to ourself instead of an outside party we would be better off.
Of course Dave answered the question based on what 98% of these programs are and Not what cep is. But just a thought lets just be patient and leave it all in here.
Dave Ramsey Radio Financial Expert says CEP and Ceptrust is a Scam and Gary here
who just happens to be a minister is shocked

Frankly I am floored myself that none of these greedy Cult members can see that CEP
is a Ponzi Scam

[littleroundman]

Frankly I am floored myself that none of these greedy Cult members can see that CEP is a Ponzi Scam

Now you get to see exactly why religion based infinity fraud is both so popular and so successful

The "true believing" religious members are now caught in a classic bind.

They believed genuinely that "Trevor" and his scamming mates had Gods' blessing. That this is with the full approval of their God.

Now what do they do ???

If it's a fraud, doesn't that mean that God is a fraud ?

Does it mean they've been tricked into using the name of God in vain ?

If this IS a fraud, and it HAS got the blessing of God, what else is using the name of God is fraudulent??
Have all of them placed their faith in man and money instead of God, placed greed before Gods' message ???

I think you will find that the "true believers" will be the last to accept this is a fraud. They'll be the most vocal defenders and may even believe that when CEP collapses, it has all been an anti religious plot.

As for the regular "playas", they're completely without morals or scruples at all.

They'll pretend to believe in and support anything, as long as they get their profit.

[Ferret]

http://www.colonendparenthesis.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3024&sid=3c7276df651c4d60d4c9214bce4a4546

surfguy
Joined: 09 Jan 2007
Posts: 93
Location: Miami, FL.
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 6:44 am Post subject:

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Not good. I saw an earlier post regarding this guys show and CEP being brought up. I guess someone is panicking. It's obvious what Dave Ramsey is going to say about any online program. The last place you want to spread CEP is in the media. I hope this person contacting the program will stop now.

Lenny

wlmi
Joined: 07 Mar 2007
Posts: 18
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 7:55 am Post subject:

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I'll have to go and try to listen to the mp3 to hear what was said but
hey, Dave Ramsey is a christian-based financial mentor, maybe him and Trevor would get along real well after the initial stigma of "online" programs is hurdled. :rolleyes:
I understand and agree about keeping things "close to home",;)
just looking to the future.;)
That is too funny. What delusion! I would love to hear that conversation

nitestalker
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Posts: 120
Location: Leipers Fork TN.
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 8:12 am Post subject:

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I listened to Dave for almost 10 years since he's based here in Nashville.
When Dave gives a thumbs down to something the thumb stays down
no matter what. Trying to convince him otherwise would be fruitless. And
since he's syndicated nowdays he could do a ton of harm with his millions
of listeners. If we could stay away from that type of interaction ie. media personalities we would in all likelyhood be much better off.

And yes without hearing his response to a question I can tell you after 10 years of listening that Dave dosen't trust anything online that promises more
than a Brick and Mortar business can.
_________________
I prefer to remain positive and upbeat about a
program and people I trust and Love. I also
intend to defend that program from those who
spread fear and hate.
Sounds like Dave has his head screwed on right
Maybe we all should call him

Happy31
Joined: 08 Nov 2006
Posts: 14
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 8:27 am Post subject:

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I agree, keep it to ourselves but there is always a 'loose cannon' in every crowd. The ironic thing about this type of person is that 'they' initiate the downfall of a program by doing exactly what is purported to have been done here and then when the program does 'fail' they are the first ones to cry...wa wa waaaaaaaaaaaaaa and labeling the administrators as crooks, cons, etc. Amazing that they have no clue that THEY themselves are the ones who instigated the program's demise. Unbelievable but I have seen it happen time and time again and it is very troublesome to me to see this type of person in action.

bluestar
Joined: 07 Dec 2006
Posts: 113
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 9:25 am Post subject:

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grow prosperous quietly,low key,no media.....

[Webwatch]

Well its been over a week now and still no funds seem to be moving from CEP, not great news for the loyal supporters but eyes shut head in the sand is the order of the day so no ones really that worried at the moment, give it another few weeks yet before panic sets in.

For those of us naysayers visting the CEP forum for our daily update this sure does make an interesting insight into how gullable some of these folks are, with the religious angle being pushed a lot it makes me wonder if any Colon Ender has the first clue about what faith actually is. Anyone wanting a real cringe can take a look at the prayers for Trevor thread to see how some coloners are praying for Trevor, well what they are really doing is praying for their own financial well being so its a bit hypocritical really, best not to critique to much though as it makes me just as bad.

Some are coming round to my way of thinking that its a legal complication, albeit approaching it from the angle of Trevor having to complete some sort of legal approval for CEP to restart.

Not sure why anyone should be that worried as no one would put more money into this than they could afford to lose would they. ;)

To give some hope to the nervous colons (quite literally) I believe Trev will sort out this problem because he can't afford not to.

[concerned]

For those of us naysayers visting the CEP forum for our daily update this sure does make an interesting insight into how gullable some of these folks are, with the religious angle being pushed a lot it makes me wonder if any Colon Ender has the first clue about what faith actually is. Anyone wanting a real cringe can take a look at the prayers for Trevor thread to see how some coloners are praying for Trevor, well what they are really doing is praying for their own financial well being so its a bit hypocritical really, best not to critique to much though as it makes me just as bad.

I really don't feel sorry for these people anymore. When I started at Matrix Watch, I had a mission of helping people that were helpless. As I started to work more on this site, I noticed that they really weren't helpless people, just gullible like you said Webwatch. Then it angers me that they not only blindly believe something so obviously messed up, they have to defend it for greed. Well, here is where I am with my opinion. I am beginning to change my view of the victims. At first I felt sorry. Now I feel like you all deserve to get scammed. In fact, sometimes I think I am glad you all got scammed. You should never mix greed with religion. The fact that you are doing it, and believing someone that makes a statement behind a computer makes me want to celebrate for the scammers. If it is that easy to convince gullible people, then I just want to say one more thing.

I am a Christian also. START SENDING ME MONEY. Then I will have God send you a check right back. Just don't complain if it bounces.

[Webwatch]

Its a thankless task this scam bashing but I suppose the majority of people who you have helped or who have at least been made aware of the potential for extreme financial loss by dabling in these internet schemes will be the unheard majority.
After all even the most staunch cheerleader will know deep down that CEP has the potential to be nothing more than another ponzi exercise and know we are correct in our assumptions that eventually the scheme will collapse and a large majority of the membership will lose a substantial amount of money.

They know we are right they just don't want us to right untill they have got their seed money out.

Its the arrogance of human nature to be convinced that ones own judgement is flawless, mix in a bit of religion and a sprinkling of deity worship and hey presto these schemes are irresistable and no amount of logic or commonsense will convince them otherwise.

This works both ways of course, is there a possibilty that Trevor has some secret method of investing that can acheive these returns for everyone, well theres always that chance after all miracles do happen (oops religion again), but with the track record of all these programs its near impossible for me to be convinced there is any likely hood of CEP not being just another affinity based ponzi scheme.

I doubt I could ever convince anyone not to join one of these scams but just that one moment of pause and a rethink before chucking in their life savings is enough for me.

[Arzel]

I really don't feel sorry for these people anymore. When I started at Matrix Watch, I had a mission of helping people that were helpless. As I started to work more on this site, I noticed that they really weren't helpless people, just gullible like you said Webwatch. Then it angers me that they not only blindly believe something so obviously messed up, they have to defend it for greed. Well, here is where I am with my opinion. I am beginning to change my view of the victims. At first I felt sorry. Now I feel like you all deserve to get scammed. In fact, sometimes I think I am glad you all got scammed. You should never mix greed with religion. The fact that you are doing it, and believing someone that makes a statement behind a computer makes me want to celebrate for the scammers. If it is that easy to convince gullible people, then I just want to say one more thing.

I am a Christian also. START SENDING ME MONEY. Then I will have God send you a check right back. Just don't complain if it bounces.


Stay strong concerned. I lost a friend because of that feeling....however, he felt from the beginning that "they" deserved to lose their money.

[Webwatch]

Latest update from Trev:
Hi, Everyone!
We do not yet have any additional information we can share, but I wanted to let you know we have not forgotten about you. We will keep you posted as we are able. Thanks again for your patience, and we apologize for the inconvenience of the delay. Take care until next time.
Trevor

Not quite the reassurance a lot need but nice to see Trev hasn't forgotten about his cult.

[concerned]

Stay strong concerned. I lost a friend because of that feeling....however, he felt from the beginning that "they" deserved to lose their money.

Honestly, I wouldn't care about losing a friend. If I had a "friend" that was too stupid to see what was happening, I probably wouldn't consider them a friend anyway. You must remember, I am not here to make friends. I am here to point out the obvious, and argue down some scammers. That's all.

[Webwatch]

Well the cracks are starting to appear over at the CEP forum with a few starting to realise this could be all over.

Is there any other business model apart from a Ponzi scheme that can get away with keeping its investors in the dark when they stop paying, or any other cult mentality that will let the admin get away with it.

In the unlikely event that CEP does restart the amount of withdrawal request's is going to put a real strain on the coffers.

Still at least no one has lost more than they could afford to lose which is a prerequisite for HYIP/Ponzi gambles.

[Cardinal]

Well, if you're talking about his most recent silence. It's because he's out of town. Again, a post without knowing anything. What do you have? A bachelor's in BS? If this forum is really for creating awareness, you've made it very clear that you know nothing about anything. It's very sad to think that people like you are allowed to share your opinions. You don't put any thought into what you're going to say. You've shown that over the last hour or so.

Yes, Trevor is out of town but he isn't a bachelor anymore. He and
Ginger were married (I think) last Saturday;)

[HonestIncome]

Originally Posted by solidsnake
Well, if you're talking about his most recent silence. It's because he's out of town. Again, a post without knowing anything. What do you have? A bachelor's in BS? If this forum is really for creating awareness, you've made it very clear that you know nothing about anything. It's very sad to think that people like you are allowed to share your opinions. You don't put any thought into what you're going to say. You've shown that over the last hour or so.

Yes, Trevor is out of town but he isn't a bachelor anymore. He and
Ginger were married (I think) last Saturday;)
I've been away for a few days and just catching up
Can you PROVE that Trevor got married?

solidsnake are you coming back to apologise to the Ferret?
Looks like he and the rest on MW were right on every count

Where are rest of the CEP cheerleaders like easyrider60, Pozey,
angerydog, etc ?
Will they be man enough to fess up?

[HonestIncome]

Have any of you the inside track to the reason CEP is not allowing the movement of monies in and out of system? Do you?

I know you don't Ferret. You and I just chatted. And you still haven't answered my question about Trevor. Here's the interesting thing about, you reply to your own posts. You leave nothing to the imagination other than the fact that you have no premise for any of your arguments. You stand only by your past with these systems, then you pursue other people's happiness in order to destroy it. The system is failing. Only your half-minded remarks to defame someone you don't even know.

Why don't you quit while you're ahead?
:)

I would have quit if you had proven were the brick
and mortar investments were............

[Cardinal]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cardinal
Yes, Trevor is out of town but he isn't a bachelor anymore. He and
Ginger were married (I think) last Saturday

I've been away for a few days and just catching up
Can you PROVE that Trevor got married?

I think HonestIncome asked that question. I posted a question direct to
Pam in the Chat Room and she said "Yes, they are married".
Cardinal

[HonestIncome]

I think HonestIncome asked that question. I posted a question direct to
Pam in the Chat Room and she said "Yes, they are married".
Cardinal
Cardinal, this is exactly how all the CEP "victims" got in trouble
by believing what "someone" said on a forum or website

Trevor Reed said many things that turned out to be lies.....
Do I have to list all the lies Trevor and his cohorts told?

If Pam said the sky was blue I would have to look outside
and check

I asked you if you had any PROOF
Do you understand the difference?

Now, my hunch is that Trevor did get married but that is a
far cry from proof
Get the county and the marriage license can be looked up
That is proof......

[William Wallace]

I don't really give a rat's patootie if he got married.

I just want him to come to any one of any of these forums and give us his take on what happened! Just for kicks! :applause: :applause: :applause:

If you want proof, there must be someone who lives near Wake Forest, North Carolina. All they have to do is walk into the City Clerk's ofice and go through the Marriage Licenses. They are public records.

If it helps, here is the address the SEC summons was mailed to:

Trevor Reed
1005 Horse Trail Way
Wake Forest, NC 27587

Any volunteers?

[mitrod3]

Part of the "story" being held on to some here as to Trevor's take on what happened....

Mr. Trevor was just plain brilliant. He was also financially gifted. So much so that he found a way to use the big money "rules of the game" that are being used by the big money makers to then beat those big momey makers at their own game, and to beat their "system". The "system" then came after him and whooped on him (unfairly so) because those running the "system" only wanted "their folk" making the big bucks and not Trevor (and us) who was really helping "us folks" out here in the trenches. :applause:

:shake:

I guess I don't quite see it that way though..................

[MtnGrl]

Posted by bobholm
Monday July 16
Moboking Forum (http://cybersurfmonitor.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=89&start=60)

Glad to hear that some will do what is needful when the time arises. Just a little news here:

Clayton has moved to Indianapolis and is spending time with old friends and family, so he's holding up ok. Trevor and Ginger should be setting up their new apartment in NC today.

As has been said before, the Receiver pulled the servers off-line, and that is why no one has or will have access any more.

Clayton has had to live off a credit card this past week since the injunction and freezing of his personal assets, but he finally got the ok from the judge today to be able to withdraw a limited amount from his bank account each month.

There is also now a group of individuals who are beginning to raise funds for defense in the coming court trial. Clayton and Trevor and their families cannot be expected to foot the bill, folks. Get ready to dig deep. Details on how to contribute will follow shortly.

Have a great day, Folks!

ONWARD THE FIGHT!!!


I'm doing a little hmmmmmm thing right now. How does anyone know what is going on with Clayton?

Worse than my hmmmmmmm thing is my WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU THINKING by paying for Trevor's court costs, and soliciting others to do the same???!!! These people have NO MORE MONEY! Trevor's and Clayton's and whoever elses piss poor downright BAD decisions got everyone's money frozen (aka stolen from them!!) I can't believe this crap!

[mitrod3]

Remember B. T. Bailey:

I think he said something about "a sucker :D being born......".....well, you know.

Trevor really sold himself well it would appear.

[Jasper]

I read somehwer that clayton was living on his credit card..I hope he is eating cat food myslef but its interesting anyway.

[Accountant]

Beware giving to a legal defense fund. First, how in the world do you know who's getting the money? And second, why in the world would you give more money to a guy who stole money from you to defend him in the charges of stealing your money? That just strikes me as irrational. Of course, I'm betting the Kool Aid club on Mobo's forum are more likely to be ahead than at loss. Methingks they might want to keep their money for there own legal defense.

[mitrod3]

Remember B. T. Bailey:

I think he said something about "a sucker :D being born......".....well, you know. Trevor really sold himself well it would appear.

OK.....my bad.

I believe it was actually P. T. Barnum, not Mr. Bailey. I guess I got my Barnum's and Bailey's mixed up there.

Anyway....."a new sucker is born.......and then maybe reborn/recycled".

[nomore]

If Trevor Reed is not working for the Devil, HE IS THE DEVIL HIMSELF!!!! :flame: AS EVIL AS THEY COME!!!!!

I know someone who put a second mortgage on their house just to pay for this guys lavish living expenses....me, I lost $2000 for my stupidity!

THERE HAVE BEEN VERY FEW PEOPLE MORE EVIL THAN THIS TREVOR REED! HE RANKS RIGHT UP THERE WITH HITLER!

He takes from the poor and KEEPS AND SPENDS IT FOR HIMSELF! There is nothing left over for this guy to give back I hope he rots in prision, and I hope is cell mate is going to make him his Bitch!!!!lol:flame: :swear: :head: :rant: :evil: