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MatrixWatch
May 29th, 2003, 10:49 PM
Here is a thought about matrix lists that may or may not be true. It should stir up some good conversation though.

Have you ever noticed that the same group of people ends up at the top of the matrix lists on many matrix sites? Look at the names, all within the top 5. Have you ever wondered how they were able to do that? Is it just because they were so well informed before the new matrix sites opened up?

About two weeks ago I read through a post on another matrix forum where a customer was bitter about his spot on a matrix. He had waited all day long for a new, specific matrix to open up, and he made sure that he had a fast internet connection. When the time finally came to enter his payment in, he did so with lightning-fast accuracy. When his payment was cleared, he typed in the URL to see the new list of names, where he expected to be within the top 5. He was #25! As he posted his story he expressed his frustration, and wondered how this could have happened.

What would stop a matrix site owner from telling his close friends to sign up for his new site, and reward them with top spots on matrix lists? What would hinder site owners from adding fake names to the top of the lists, only so they themselves could reap the rewards of cycling? Now, you may say, "That's impossible, they would never get away with it!". Well, how are you so sure? To whom are they accountable to? Why do you think they should be so loyal to you?

The matrix sites have been spewing out excuses to those customers who deserved to cycle. Even those who have cycled have heard reason after reason why they need to wait a few weeks longer. Read the EzExpo forums from March, 2003. There you can see the same rhetoric, "Shipping starts this week...", "PaySystems releases our funds this month". The cycle will never end. Do you think that a fly-by-night, P.O. Box operated, business model that is set up to reward only a few people will somehow have a change of heart and begin to reward you?

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djvennix
May 30th, 2003, 12:59 AM
every site that I signed up for the first day I was top 2 or 3.

Everybody is trying to sign up at the same time.... if 25 people try right away.. someone has to be #1 and someone has to be #25.

While those things are possible, that is different from saying there is a reason to believe that that is happening.

Law of averages says there is probably a site or two that do it that way.

Shelby
June 4th, 2003, 09:09 PM
Timmy good point that's why I'm gonna sue you LOL, and the customers who have waited will know the reason is because of you. YOU can count on it.

Shelby
June 4th, 2003, 09:15 PM
Lies are lies, slander is slander, you are full of both.

MatrixWatch
June 19th, 2003, 06:18 AM
I posted the first message of this thread about three weeks ago. It was a question that had been swimming in my mind for a while. Has anyone read through the new lawsuit against varietymatrix.com? Here is an excerpt that I believe is relevant to our topic here:


16. ...Supposedly “Lynda Le” has just “cycled out” and will be receiving her prize within “one week.”

17. Another matrix plaintiff entered was for a $2,500 Apple PowerMac G4 computer. The entry price he paid was $220 for this 30-person matrix. According to the web site, plaintiff is currently in slot #27 out of 61 current participants. Again, the mysterious “Lynda Le” is listed as having cycled out and was supposed to receive her prize in 2-3 days.

18. In fact, “Lynda Le” is listed as the identity of the person who has just “cycled out” or will be next to cycle out in virtually every matrix. Lynda Le is probably either a fictitious person, an alias for the operator of the matrix site, or an associate of the matrix site operator. In any event, plaintiff is informed and believes, and thereupon alleges, that few if any of the legitimate participants have received the applicable prize.


So it seems that this stuff might just be happening after all.