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beentaken
September 6th, 2003, 09:20 PM
Saturday, September 06, 2003

Hello sean,

Hello Ezexpo mailing list subscribers. This is the September newsletter. We hope to assist you with some of your questions from the previous months newsletter.

First we have confirmed with Ginix that they are processing all refund requests and have refunded over half of you already. Of the $180,000 they owed us, there was ~$80,000 remaining in the account the froze. They have coorporated and have asked us to submit this information to you. When contacting Ginix do so in this way with this infromation.

consumersupport@ginix.com include name first 4 / last 4 digits of the credit card used for purchase of the e-books. and Order #.

Now this informaion is for all other credit card users before Ginix. Damion Flynn contact for refund from paysystems, paypal, or all accounts except Ginix.

Windvds.com contact is (support@windvds.com)

WinDVDs, LLC PO Box 3026 Gulfport, MS 39505 228-539-0246

We regret we cannot help more in this area but Mr. Flynn has total control of the accounts you used to pay for the e-books before February, 2003. He is the ONLY ONE who can help you in regards to a refund from these accounts. We have no information on what he is doing or will do to help you. This is our way of helping you in the only way we can.

Mr. Flynn has to personally request a refund for you or at least approve the refund request once you submitt to these accounts.

This is all the information we have and can provide to assist you.

Now explanations on what is going to take place and Your options.

1) After the 30 day period stated in last months newsletter, we will remove names for the free items if you paid by credit card.

2) Those who paid by credit card and wish to remain on the list for the free items and continue to get the newletters and monthly e-books can submit a money order to continue the subscription service.

3) We have provided all the information we have for credit card users to request a refund. We do this even after we did not receive funds from the processors and sent the product you paid for to you anyway. Please keep and enjoy. Many of you have contacted your credit card company (Visa, MC, etc) and were told the money was paid. This is true, it was paid to paysystems, paypal, ginix, or whomever you got the billing receipt from. These processors did collect the money. They kept the money and still have it. This information is the facts as such which is why we are providing you the information because we don't want them to wind up with yours or our money, which they have NOW.

4)The good news is those which orginally paid by money order are not in the above catagory and need to do nothing else.

After the 30 day period the lists for the free items will be much shorter and will continue to move as money orders come in and business once again picks up. You and us will never again be plagued by the credit card processors as we have no intentions of ever using them again. This will benefit all and it will be a better, cleaner, more managable business model.

*********section for those who have cycled and not received the item due to the credit card issues************

If you have cycled and paid by credit card, you will be removed also. What we have come up with is the offer for you to remain at the top of the list once you submit a money order. If we receive your money order first you will be #1 on the list. If we receive your money order 2nd you will be #2 on the list. ETC. If we don't receive your money order by the end of the 30 day period you will be removed for the free item like the other credit card users. We have to do this as you were cycled with non-received money by credit card purchases.

We hope the best for all of you and look forward to the future and all of you cycling.

EZ Expo staff and support
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MatrixWatch
September 6th, 2003, 09:43 PM
I personally would highly recommend that no one sends in those money orders. It is a big mistake. You will never see anything from that money--- Never. EzExpo is trying to feed a cash cow here for something. I don't know what the money is for, but it is not for the customers. With all that has happened, I would be surprised if anyone was willing to take Shelby at his word again.

hello
September 6th, 2003, 10:30 PM
I wonder what Damion has to say about this. Damion, if your out there, doesn't this just take the cake? Please don't tell me that Shelby is still your friend.

mjkski
September 6th, 2003, 10:40 PM
I hate to post this because I don't know if it is true but...

From: Prozac


Actually, he did not assume anything, that was me. I looked at your profile and it showed that you posted pictures of Melinda so that is the name I emailed him with. I am unsure if he will do it again - especially now.
It seems that Shelby sent an email to everyone with Damion's home phone number on it and he thought I gave it out on the forum and I just got off the phone with him. He is pissed so I would wait to ask him for any favors.

I believe Damion is going to place a lawsuit on Shelby for doing this. He said something about talking to his attorney on Monday. I do not know what he would do it on because all he did was give out registrar information from WinDVDs but I am sure he can put the heat on Shelby somehow. Attorneys are good at that.

I would definately wait a few days to ask him any favors though.

Prozac

damion
September 6th, 2003, 11:10 PM
I did talk to Prozac on the phone earlier. I was extremely ticked when I found out he gave my home number out in a mass mail to everyone and told them to contact me.
I have had over 40 calls since 4:30 Central time - the last one being 10 minutes ago (at 5 minutes until 10pm Central).

I will be bringing this to the attention of my attorney first thing Monday. I talked to Shelby about a week ago and he mentioned something about people getting refunds from the lists they were on. I specifically told him NOT to give my number to anyone and he sends it to everyone.

I do not know what my legal standing on this is but I am sure I can get him for some sort of harrassment. I am not sure but I guess I will find out Monday.

BTW - hello: You asked if he was still my friend. He tried to act like it but I guess he just proved he was not.

MatrixForum will be reopening tonight under new management.
Just out of popular demand, and spite for Shelby, I am giving MatrixForum over to Prozac.

Damion

damion
September 7th, 2003, 02:19 PM
Because of the email and other aspects, matrixforum (http://groups.msn.com/matrixforum) has been reopened.

Prozac is the new manager. I know he will protect mine and the customer's best interests.


Damion