Colon End Parenthesis IS NOT a scam

[077770]

CEP is not a scam. They are real. They are honest. They are not a ponzi. They do not use new member money to pay out old members.

[Webwatch]

Glad to hear it.
Your have nothing to worry about then.
The SEC will just say everythings fine and Trevor can continue CEP operations.
You will have to excuse me now as I have to help Father Christmas get ready for this years present deliverys.

[Ferret]

CEP is not a scam. They are real. They are honest. They are not a ponzi. They do not use new member money to pay out old members.
Prove it!!!
Words are cheap and the SEC will need just a little more
detail than you are providing here :D

WW: Father Christmas?
I have to go help the tooth fairy right now lol :D
or was that the easter bunny? :p

PS:077770 was the first poster on the infamous MMG
thread where scaminJesusname only posts and has made
hundreds of thousands off the CEP ponzi scam

That is why he is SO DESPERATE to keep the CEP ponzi going
so he can keep getting 720% return on his "investment"
Also his money is tied up in CEP and the SEC will be claiming
it soon. Something about ill gotten gains?

CEP should make payouts while they still can (http://www.colonendparenthesis.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3220&sid=91acfd22e64d0d4bf6df4003842e83e6)

077770
Joined: 18 Nov 2006
Posts: 15
Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 8:26 pm Post subject: CEP should make payouts while they still can

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I think CEP should make payouts while they still have a chance

[Webwatch]

lol I got my fictional characters mixed.
What I meant was I'll have to go and give Trevor Reed some Investment advice.

077770-If you voluntarily contact the SEC and offer to return all CEP monies you have received untill the outcome of the investigation they might go a little easier on you.

[Accountant]

Just a hint I'd ask you to pass on to the sheep over at CEP forums, there is no such animal as an "informal" investigation by the SEC, they ask questions, you can answer or plead the fifth. When they're done asking questions, they ask a few of your investors some questions, they can either answer or plead the fifth. When they're done asking questions, they go to a judge, get a C&D, appoint a reciever and refer the matter to the Justice Department for criminal prosecution. Been there, done that, got the T Shirt.

[concerned]

CEP is not a scam. They are real. They are honest. They are not a ponzi. They do not use new member money to pay out old members.

Hey, the expert witness is back. Well, with no credibility, no resume, no experience, and no name with letters in it, it is good to see that you are back to give us your EXPERT OPINION on this scam. It's good to know you are here to tell us that it isn't a PONZI. What would we ever do without such a highly respected expert in the investment field? Please tell us the proof you have that it isn't a ponzi. I asked for it before, and obviously you couldn't answer the question the first time. Maybe this time, you have had time for your gigantic brain to process the information and spit out an answer. After all you are a genious who knows more than us. I only wish you could prove that you know more, but oh well, at least it's a start.

[roberbs]

I disagree with you. My mom invested in CEP Coast, CEP Trust and Coastin88. She recently passed away and I have been trying to reach Trevor Reed for over a month now. He hasn't returned my emails or phone calls. I FedExed documentation to their office and I have yet to get a response. I spoke with a representative over the phone and I've been emailing Skye and Pam and they have not been able to help me. My mom invested a large sum of money, however the representative claims that she didn't have that much in her account. I have the paper trail of what she invested which corresponds to her email to CEP Admin quoting her balances in each fund just 2 days before she died. This has all of the evidence of a scam to me. I had no problems speaking with people for her legitimate investments. If you think this is legit then can you have Trevor Reed respond to me. Thanks.

[Webwatch]

Hi Roberbs,
Theres not much good coming from CEP at the moment, the latest claim by Trevor is an investigation by the SEC, of course this is justs a claim but if you are heading down the legal route in persuing Trevor (many will be eventually they just don't know it yet) this may be a point to start.

The horrible thing about these religious type scams (CEP is almost definately a scam and 07770 the thread starter is now pleading poverty on the CEP forum) is that so many people get suckered into it.

Forum rules preventing me from stating my feelings of Trevor and his acclomplices in this but it doesn't get much lower than playing the religious card to steal peoples money.

For those true believers who are still having difficulty believing CEP is a scam try asking yourselves why 'Goomba' one of Trevors head shills (or quite possibly Trevor himself) has dissapeared from the CEP forum.

The Real Facts so far:
CEP has not payed out since before May 18th
Trevor has Claimed an SEC investigation is taking place
No Confirmation of this from the SEC yet.

[077770]

I disagree with you. My mom invested in CEP Coast, CEP Trust and Coastin88. She recently passed away and I have been trying to reach Trevor Reed for over a month now.

All the CEP sites work independently of each other. So the best thing to do is to log in to the accounts at each individual site, and submit support tickets. E-mail isn't a good way of reaching CEP - you need to use the support ticket system. CEP Trust probably won't be able to help you much. Coast 88 and Coastin 88 account records should show activity - and support tickets at those sites can confirm. As for CEP, try a support ticket at that site and check the "upgrades" page for a list of purchases.

[concerned]

E-mail isn't a good way of reaching CEP - you need to use the support ticket system.

and support tickets at those sites can confirm.

As for CEP, try a support ticket at that site and check the "upgrades" page for a list of purchases.

You said support ticket 3 times. What I didn't see was "call this number" anywhere. It's funny how legitimate companies have phone numbers and scams have support tickets. Why is that?

[077770]

If you think this is legit then can you have Trevor Reed respond to me. Thanks.

If you have an issue with CEP Trust, call them.
If you can't use the support tickets, you could try the CEP Forum (http://colonendparenthesis.net/forum) and the CEP Chat Room (http://www.hotconference.com/software/conference.php?id=49826072).

[Webwatch]

If you have an issue with CEP Trust, call them.
If you can't use the support tickets, you could try the CEP Forum (http://colonendparenthesis.net/forum) and the CEP Chat Room (http://www.hotconference.com/software/conference.php?id=49826072).
Any one know the CEP Trust phone number, all I get from the Contact us page is this:
https://www.ceptrust.com/faq.cep
How can I contact CEP Trust?
The best way to contact us is the Support section of your member area. However, you can email us at admin@ceptrust.com, or you can click here to contact us.

I am having trouble receiving secure CEP Trust e-mails like login codes to my e-mail address. What should I do?
First, try adding the following e-mail addresses to the address book in your e-mail account. Some filters will not allow secure e-mails to come through, so by adding these addresses to your address book the server should understand that you do in fact want to receive them. If after adding these addresses you still are not able to receive e-mails from us, then you will need to change the e-mail address you have on file with us.


admin@ceptrust.com
DO-NOT-REPLY@ceptrust.com
loginpin@ceptrust.com
assistance@ceptrust.com
transfers@ceptrust.com
administrator@ceptrust.com



When I go to the CEP Trust website, I get a pop-up message telling me the security certificate may not be trustworthy. What is this, and what do I do about it?
We configured our own security certificate, or SSL. This makes us safer to use since hackers are unfamiliar with our SSL script. Unfortunately, since we are not yet big enough for internet explorer, firefox, and other web browsers to recognize us, they will caution you about the SSL since it is an SSL that the browser has not previously installed on your system for you.
So long as the pop-up message says the security certificate is from CEP Trust, then it is safe to accept it on the www.ceptrust.com website. Simply accept it, and you will be able to view everything properly on our site.
For those red flag spotters amongst us you may notice that CEP Trust has decided they are so secure they can use their own SSL certificate not one from a trusted authority. :nono:

Of course Trevor and Clayton have also decided they don't need to be registered with the SEC either which is another slight error. :head:
Whats next CEP Trust isn't licensed perhaps.

[roberbs]

I finally received an email from Trevor after I threatened to contact the SEC, IRS and the Attorney General. He is claiming that he didn't get my FEDEX and that I can't get my mom's funds until the SEC investigation is complete. It's a shame that these people prey on naiive Christian investors. It's like being stuck up in the name of the Lord.

[077770]

I finally received an email from Trevor.... He is claiming that he didn't get my FEDEX and that I can't get my mom's funds until the SEC investigation is complete.
CEP Coast and Coastin88 are still running fine. So while you're waiting for CEP you might as well surf at the Coast sites so you can earn returns.

[077770]

Any one know the CEP Trust phone number, all I get from the Contact us page is this:
https://www.ceptrust.com/faq.cep


Actually, your highness, that's the FAQ page. Try the Contact Us page..

[Ferret]

Actually, your highness, that's the FAQ page. Try the Contact Us page..
:rolleyes: WW did that because when you click the Contact Us tab
on the left that is the page you end up on

The actual contact page Link is hidden on that FAQ page

https://www.ceptrust.com/contact.cep
Support Hours: 8AM-5PM CST
Phone: 302-353-1232
Fax: 302-724-4671


PS:077770 you never did answer the question here why you
are so broke when you claimed to be getting $20,000 to
your bank every month very recently

You also didn't answer it on the CEP Forum when Layton
asked you the same question

Nothing you say adds up

[roberbs]

Thanks for your help. Thanks for the laugh too. I so needed it. How's Father Christmas today. I really feel for these people. My mom was a senior citizen and a devout Christian and unfortunately way too trusting. She wanted to build an orphanage in Africa and help poor families. She supported many African families through World Vision and children around the world through Children International. Last year she visited 3 countries in Africa and children in the Dominican Republic. It is so sad that I have to go through so much to get what should go to her heirs.

[concerned]

I finally received an email from Trevor after I threatened to contact the SEC, IRS and the Attorney General. He is claiming that he didn't get my FEDEX and that I can't get my mom's funds until the SEC investigation is complete. It's a shame that these people prey on naiive Christian investors. It's like being stuck up in the name of the Lord.

Trust me when I say this.

You better start contacting those people you told Trevor you were going to contact. Otherwise, all you are going to get is lip service. As you can tell, these scammers won't respond to anyone unless there is a chance they will have the authorities on their backs. That is why they ignored you till the threats came. They now think that you have calmed down cause they responded. That's what they want you to do. They know that once you contact the SEC, AG, FBI, etc, they will have more problems, cause they know they are doing something illegal. Don't step down now.

[077770]

...these scammers won't respond to anyone unless there is a chance they will have the authorities on their backs. That is why they ignored you till the threats came...

FALSE - FLAT OUT LIES

Claims about a lack of customer support come from non-members and/or failure to use the proper CEP Member Support channels.
CEP doesn't respond on weekends. They responded to Roberbs on a Monday.

CEP responds to member support requests within a few days. They are closed on the weekends. They don't rely on e-mail for support issues, instead, account specific issues are addressed with Support tickets...the various CEP forums, or the CEP chat room also provide member with quick responses. Even though phone support is only available for CEPTrust...There are plenty of members that have gotten support from Trevor on the phone and some even in person. Support is there. It might take two days for a response...but CEP Support is always there.

[MatrixWatch]

Looks like we're having some good discussion here.

Members, as new issues arise that need a "deep dive" of their own, please feel free to start up new threads that deal with that topic specifically. This way, we don't end up with very long threads that address multiple issues.

This will also help to facilitate the best conversation from all sides of the debate.

[mitrod3]

FALSE - FLAT OUT LIES Claims about a lack of customer support come from non-members and/or failure to use the proper CEP Member Support channels. CEP doesn't respond on weekends. They responded to Roberbs on a Monday. CEP responds to member support requests within a few days. They are closed on the weekends. They don't rely on e-mail for support issues, instead, account specific issues are addressed with Support tickets...the various CEP forums, or the CEP chat room also provide member with quick responses. Even though phone support is only available for CEPTrust...There are plenty of members that have gotten support from Trevor on the phone and some even in person. Support is there. It might take two days for a response........

BUT CEP SUPPORT IS ALWAYS THERE.

I wish that was true but a few around here are finding the ALWAYS THERE.....not there right now.....and it is beginning to take a toll on some folks.

[concerned]

FALSE - FLAT OUT LIES

Claims about a lack of customer support come from non-members

Of course I am a "non-member" since I am not stupid enough to give them my money. Otherwise, if I was too stupid, I would probably be a member saying the same thing.

[mitrod3]

Ah.....sorry for a dose of reality, but the lack of customer support is coming from a few "members" around here at the moment. These are friends as well as people I care about who are not doing so well, emotionally and financially, right now.

[concerned]

Ah.....sorry for a dose of reality, but the lack of customer support is coming from a few "members" around here at the moment. These are friends as well as people I care about who are not doing so well, emotionally and financially, right now.

Thank you mitrod3. 077770, what do you have to say for yourself now?

[roberbs]

I am very dissatisfied with trying to close my late mom's accounts and have a check issued to her estate. I FedExed the information to Trevor last week. I have not heard from him. Now I'm not getting responses from Skye and Pam. I have been trying to reach Trevor for over a month. I am told that he is honest and that he is a Christian but why is he avoiding me. I am told that CEP is under investigation by the SEC and that CEP is a scam. Skye said that I should be respectful, but where is my respect and where is the respect for my mom who passed away trusting in Trevor and CEP. Pam and Skye says that I should contact Trevor myself, however Trevor is not returning my correspondence. This gives me no other choice but to contact the SEC, the IRS and the Attorney General and file a complaint against the CEP companies. I have been patient and have tried to work with CEP but trying to contact a person for over a month and not getting a call back is just totally unacceptable.

Trevor's response:
I have not received any information you have fedexed. Where did you send it to? See, this is not my area to watch. When things are being transferred, there is staff we have to do that. If you are trying to change over a CEP account, you will have to wait. We have been advised to process absolutely no transactions and make no changes until the SEC investigation is complete. When that happens, our staff will be able to better assist you. Until then, our hands are tied. CEP is not a scam, and I am sorry that you are for some reason believing that. Please watch for an update when the investigation is complete, and then we can better assist you. Thank you for your patience.
Trevor

[roberbs]

I sent the FedEx to Trevor Reed 760 CAMPBELL LANE SUITE 106 BOWLING GREEN, KY 42104 last Thursday. I sent the death certificate and a copy of her will showing that I am the executor of her estate and my four children are her beneficiaries.

I spoke to the SEC this morning and they will be sending me forms to fill out for a complaint again your companies. I will be cooperating with the SEC regarding this investigation as I have been trying for over a month to contact you regarding my mom's account. My mom just got in CEP in early April, so I'm not understanding why it is so difficult to release the funds that she invested in CEP Coast, CEP Trust and Coastin88.

Trevor Response:
Have you contacted them at admin@coastin88.com? I am sure the staff there will be more than willing to assist you. I am sorry to hear of your recent loss. As for the SEC, Coastin88 is not under their jurisdiction, as it is not an investment company. Regardless, the staff there will do what they can to help transfer your mother's account to you. They will ask you to provide the appropriate information, you can understand, as we will not simply hand over someone else's account without said information, as that would be very poor security. They will work with you regarding this matter. Please let me know if I can help in any other way. Thank you.
Trevor

I'm not understanding you at all. You stated that I sent the information to the wrong address, however you did not give me the correct address. You're stating that I need to send you information that I already sent you, but you give no specifics on the fax number or address. I find your means of communicating to be confusing to me. You seem to leave out important details.

Sorry you found that confusing. For now, please send the power of attorney and the death certificate to my e-mail address here at healinJesusname@yahoo.com. Unless we have a power of attorney showing that you have the right to the account, we cannot transfer the account to you, so please send that information as soon as possible so that we can verify it and better assist you. Thanks!
Trevor

You stated that I FED EXed the information to the wrong address, what address should I have mailed the information to? Your representative Kyle Squier signed for the letter. Why would anyone sign for it if that was not your address. I was told twice to mail it there.

I sent you the same information that your representative requested and the same information that I needed to close her bank accounts, unfortunately she transfered most of her money from her bank accounts to CEP.

Kyle told me that all I needed to send now was her full name and date of birth. How many time will this requirement change?

We have not changed any requirements. We need a power of attorney from you and a death certificate. The power of attorney is most important, as we cannot relinquish any account or account information without that. As for a Kyle Squier, I have never heard that name. It is likely that he was a receiving party working for UPS. When you sent the package, you put it in my name rather than in a business name. The old receiving address for CEP Trust, LLC was at that address, and we had people sign for the packages and deliver them to us later, but my personal name was nowhere on their list, so we were never presented with the package you are talking about. I am sorry if you had incorrect information. Again, please scan and send the power of attorney back to this e-mail address, healinJesusname@yahoo.com, along with the death certificate, and we will be able to further assist you. Thanks.
Trevor

I did have CEP Trust on the package. Should I re-phrase the question, What is the correct address that I should have used?

Can you count how many times I asked for the correct address? Trevor seems to be avoiding the question. He is outright lying about not getting the package and I do not believe him. He is definitely holding back.

[MtnGrl]

Actually I do understand what Trevor is saying to you, but that is neither here nor there as a discussion on it won't help you right now.

Right now what you need to do is scan the power of attorney and the death certificate and attach those scans to an email addressed to healinJesusname@yahoo.com .

[concerned]

Actually I do understand what Trevor is saying to you, but that is neither here nor there as a discussion on it won't help you right now.

Right now what you need to do is scan the power of attorney and the death certificate and attach those scans to an email addressed to healinJesusname@yahoo.com .

Actually, I wouldn't do that. Look at the email address. Do you think all multi million dollar companies use yahoo accounts? You would be stupid to turn over that kind of information to a yahoo account. I think you should proceed with the authorities. It is your only option. Obviously, Trevor is feeding you a bunch of crap. Protect your's and your mom's information by NOT sending it to a verifiable place like a yahoo account.

[roberbs]

I sent Trevor the information that I was told to send via Fed Ex to the address that I was told to send it to. He claims that he did not receive it, however he has yet to tell me the correct address. I have asked him 4 times. I will be going to the authorities and my attorney. I can't believe his followers accept these vague answers and think that Trevor is some kind of saint, well let's make it clear HE AINT A SAINT. There's only one way to deal with his kind (sociopaths and psychopathic liars). The Law is for the lawless. I am going to make a believer out of him.

[MtnGrl]

Actually, I wouldn't do that. Look at the email address. Do you think all multi million dollar companies use yahoo accounts? You would be stupid to turn over that kind of information to a yahoo account. I think you should proceed with the authorities. It is your only option. Obviously, Trevor is feeding you a bunch of crap. Protect your's and your mom's information by NOT sending it to a verifiable place like a yahoo account.


Well, I do know that is Trevor's personal email address. That is why I recommended he/she go ahead and send the scans there. It is, in my opinion, the fastest way to remedy the situation. I know attorney's cost money and I don't see why he/she needs to throw away good money to get the information to Trevor. Just send the info by email to that email address. If this issue is not solved in short order by doing so I will post a naked picture of myself here.... NOT. But anyway, I know that email address is Trevor's personal email and am just saying there is no reason to pay an attorney right now - just send the darn scans to Trevor at that email address first and shut your wallet!

[littleroundman]

Well, I do know that is Trevor's personal email address. That is why I recommended he/she go ahead and send the scans there. It is, in my opinion, the fastest way to remedy the situation. I know attorney's cost money and I don't see why he/she needs to throw away good money to get the information to Trevor. Just send the info by email to that email address. If this issue is not solved in short order by doing so I will post a naked picture of myself here.... NOT. But anyway, I know that email address is Trevor's personal email and am just saying there is no reason to pay an attorney right now - just send the darn scans to Trevor at that email address first and shut your wallet!

That would be a wonderful suggestion IF:

1) He was certain of "Trevor" being "Trevor" and not some 18 year old kid pretending to be "Tom," "Dick," "Harry" or Trevor"

2) CEP was legally registered (other than as an LLC company) and therefore traceable.

3) He was at all confident that by giving "Trevor" his mothers Power of Attorney and Death certificates he was NOT giving a known scammer yet ANOTHER avenue for "ripping off his mother, this time via her estate. Just for laughs, see if you can calculate the number of illegal uses a scammer might make of such certificates. Believe me, you'll amaze yourself.

4) By NOT pursuing such actions he is not placing the claims at risk, should any legal action be instituted PRIOR to his.
In such a case, as clearly pointed out by Accountant in another thread, the estates claims revert to being just ANOTHER unsecured creditors claim, no doubt to be handled by a receiver, should one be eventually appointed. On past experience, this would take a minimum of 3 years to obtain perhaps 12 or 15 cents in the dollar, such being the nature of Ponzis.

In other words, roberbs please heed the universal advice, NEVER, EVER, EVER send ANY such information to ANYONE you do not know PERSONALLY as being trustworthy.

It "sucks" I know, but, please, please heed the advice, and do this the "RIGHT" way.

DO NOT trust "Trevor," CEP or anyone associated with them to do ANYTHING even remotely "right" by your mother, her estate or you.

Your ONLY chance is to act for your own best interests and act NOW.

The second the SEC or any other agency files charges ANY hope you have of reclaiming ALL your money is gone.

[roberbs]

Trevor is a slithery snake, but he will not outrun justice. Did he ever answer my question? Does he have an address? What kind of business doesn't have an address?

TREVOR:
Oh, you said in the first correspondence that I saw that you had Trevor Reed on the package. Maybe I was confused. Regardless, sending that to CEP Trust should have been fine. I am not the one who receives the packages, and it was never passed on to me. I do not live in that state. My business partner usually picks those up and then works with anything at that point. Not sure what happened. Regardless, as I noted, please scan and send the power of attorney and the death certificate to this email address healinJesusname@yahoo.com, and we will be able to better assist you from there. Thanks!
Trevor

Me:
I had Trevor Reed as the name and CEP Trust as the Company. Have you ever sent a FedEx package before? May I ask again. What address should I have sent the documentation to? Why won't you just answer my question? Giving direct answers is not one of your strong points.

TREVOR:
I have given you direct information four times now. Take your power of attorney if you have one and the death certificate if you have it, use a personal scanner or go to a Kinkos or Staples and get the information scanned to a computer, and attach the files to an e-mail which you send to healinJesusname@yahoo.com. Again, this is the quickest way for you to send the information to us, and that is why I have provided you with this option. I do not frequently allow people to send files to my personal e-mail address, but I am trying to help you expedite this. I do not know how I can be any more direct than this e-mail. If you have any further questions, let us know. Thank you.
Trevor

[Webwatch]

This is starting to sound like one of my baits.
Trevor is trying very hard to hide his address, or even any hint of his location.

If by any chance Trevor does relent which I doubt he will please don't post his personnal address in the open forum.

[Ferret]

Regardless, as I noted, please scan and send the power of attorney and the death certificate to this email address
That doesn't seem to be very secure to me as a scan is
easily changed or falsified
If I was going to be releasing funds I would want the original
documents.

PS: roberbs get your money out of the 2 surf sites ASAP before
they all get frozen.
You don't have much time.....

[MtnGrl]

littleroundman,
The reason I said for roberbs to scan and send the info by email is because he has already sent the information to CEPTrust, so he already made the decision to give "Trevor" the information. If roberbs has now changed his mind and does not want them to have that information so be it, but it seems to me by his posts that he still wants to get the information to them.

[littleroundman]

littleroundman,
The reason I said for roberbs to scan and send the info by email is because he has already sent the information to CEPTrust, so he already made the decision to give "Trevor" the information. If roberbs has now changed his mind and does not want them to have that information so be it, but it seems to me by his posts that he still wants to get the information to them.

There is a vast difference between giving "information" to a dubious email address and sending the scanned documents themselves.

Granted, roberbs is in the unfortunate position where "Trevor" and CEP already have details.

I would still urge all caution, the negotiations from this point be handled by a legal representative and he (roberbs) DEFINITELY doesn't supply scanned copies of ANY documents.

When dealing with snakes, alligators, deadly creatures and ponzi operators, too much caution is barely enough

[roberbs]

I agree in dealing with my mom's other banks/investments they always require original documents. If the company was out of reach I always had to use FedEx. I'm just sick at the amount my mom invested it was quite a bit. I wasn't born yesterday. I know that Trevor is just stalling me and trying to make it appear that he is trying to work with me.

[Accountant]

I'm going to Bowling Green next week, send it to me and I'll take it down personally..

[MtnGrl]

I agree in dealing with my mom's other banks/investments they always require original documents. If the company was out of reach I always had to use FedEx. I'm just sick at the amount my mom invested it was quite a bit. I wasn't born yesterday. I know that Trevor is just stalling me and trying to make it appear that he is trying to work with me.

Well, I'm just at a loss. It sounds like you need make a decision about what you want to do and just follow through with it. Email the documents to Trevor's email address or get your attorney involved... but do it tomorrow okay? ;)

And by "tomorrow" I mean, do it right away.

[Ponzi Nemesis]

I agree in dealing with my mom's other banks/investments they always require original documents. If the company was out of reach I always had to use FedEx. I'm just sick at the amount my mom invested it was quite a bit. I wasn't born yesterday. I know that Trevor is just stalling me and trying to make it appear that he is trying to work with me.Firstly let me say how sorry I am to hear of your loss. This must be a very difficult time for you and it is terribly unfortunate that you now have to deal with this situation with CEP.

It seems to me that, since you are prepared to send original documents to Trevor then you may as well send him the scanned documents he has asked for. Tell him that he must repay, in full, everything your mother paid into CEP within 7 days, or you will be instructing your attorney to take action on your behalf. If your attorney has an email address it may be effective to cc him.

Then, if you have not received the funds within a week, get your attorney to take it off your hands. I think there is a good chance he'll pay, because he won't want this to get any more complicated than it has to at this stage.

I believe there are strong reasons to take action immediately, as there is a serious risk that CEP will have its accounts frozen shortly and placed under the control of a receiver. You will then most likely have to wait months or years to get anything back, which will then probably only be a few cents in the dollar.

Here is a link to the company registration for COLON END PARENTHESIS TRUST, LLC - it contains a number of addresses which may prove useful. I presume that documents served to an address registered on this .ky.gov website would be deemed to have been served for legal purposes:

http://apps.sos.ky.gov/business/obdb/(wljjza55cq5oql45xbtcumfv)/showentity.aspx?id=0632391&ct=06&cs=99999

Good luck with this - I imagine there are several of us who would be interested to learn how you get on if you find the time to give us an update in the future.

Kind regards,
Ponzi Nemesis.

[Webwatch]

Hello PN and welcome to Matrixwatch.
As you say time is of the essence with this, and time is not only running out for Trevor but also victims to start getting their legal action underway.

[077770]

Here is a link to the company registration for COLON END PARENTHESIS TRUST, LLC - it contains a number of addresses which may prove useful.

CEP Holdings has multiple businesses and multiple addresses. CEPTrust, CEP, CEPCoast, Coastin88, etc...while owned by the same company, operate independently of each other. CEP is not CEP Trust. They are two different companies. The mailing address for CEP Trust is not that same as that for CEP. Mailing documents to CEPTrust doesn't get them to CEP. This influences much confusion and communication breakdown.

If you have a problem with Kraft Macaroni & Cheese would you contact Marlboro ? How long would it take to get a response?

[roberbs]

Two days ago after I was persistent about not sending the documents via email and asked for the 6th time the correct address, Trevor claimed that his partner got the papers (to avoid giving me a correct address). He said that he would get back with me and I haven't heard anything else. I just spoke with the Attorney General down there and they think that the address is a mail drop and not an office. Someone is going there next week and they will let me know what this address is. For legitimate investments it takes no more than 48 hours to get the funds in similar situations. This company is very illusive and it shouldn't take one month to process a check to a person's estate. I feel sorry for all those people who still have faith in Trevor because they are in for a big let down.

[077770]

Trevor claimed that his partner got the papers (to avoid giving me a correct address) He said that he would get back with me and I haven't heard anything else...it shouldn't take one month to process a check to a person's estate.

...CEP Companies operate independently, each having a different address...I agree, it shouldn't take one month.... It's been four days since Trevor got in touch with you...right?

You are note a member of CEP. Had you been a member of CEP, perhaps you would have known how to contact member support...and not had any problems... Your mother was a member of CEP...perhaps she wouldn't of had such difficulty contacting Trevor about such an important matter. What would she have to say?

may peace be with you

Moderator Note:
**Using this persons berevement in an attempt to substantiate your point is extremeley disrespectfull.**
Consider this your one and only warning.

[Ferret]

:rolleyes:

CEP is not a scam. They are real. They are honest. They are not a ponzi. They do not use new member money to pay out old members.

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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:01 pm (http://www.colonendparenthesis.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3412&start=45&sid=9ebed71805265e9392de492bde08d1d3) Post subject:

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Watching CEP newscasts makes me ill. They are a joke. Could they be any more unprofessional? They always talk about some stupid "surprise" - which usually ends up being a kick in the groin. And what the muck is up with all those pictures of random people at the beginning of newscast #7? hello?!?! where am I ?!?


Hello 077770,
Where to begin on MY thoughts? You have a great number of members confused at present, whether it be by accident or intentional. If my memories serve me correctly, you are sending VERY mixed signals to the entire membership with your posts.

You are a VERY early member in CEP (single digit referral number),

you ARE the thread starter at the MMG forum.

For months and months and months, you sang praises for the CEP program.

You "bragged" about your monthly $$ you were making with CEP.

And even to this very day, you SEEM to support the CEP program 100% and with a passion at another forum.

But yet you appear to be VERY VERY unhappy in the CEP forum. This is based on the angry posts you have made recently that is causing a negative impact with the MAJORITY of the members. Many members are seeing this as an attempt to incite the member base. Fence sitters would be the 1st term that comes to my mind. This way, depending on which direction the wind is blowing, that will dictate which way you will go. "Fair weather fan" would also be another term that comes to mind. A fair weather "fan" supports a team when the going is good, and disses them when they do bad, to put it in sports analogy.

Based on the MASSIVE member PM's to ALL staff and mods, this thread will now be locked for the best interest of CEP and membership.

You have already been given one "time-out" to this forum for your postings in the past. This needs to be kept in mind.

Regards,
HH

[Webwatch]

This could be a first.
The lead shill on MMG normally makes the most profit and knows all along how the game works surely.

This is really messing with my whole ponzi peddler philosophy.

077770 please tell us you have made a fortune off the backs of others-Oh i forgot you already have.

[roberbs]

Some people refuse to embrace the truth even when it is staring them right in the face. I sent emails to support, but was told that I needed to contact Trevor directly. Trevor is behind all 3 companies as I was directed to him by all 3 companies. Trevor is giving me the run around. You should look up the characteristics of a sociopath. They are charming people, but they always have an agenda. You're either their accomplice or their victim. Which are you? Many of them are in churches and they prey on naive people. When I dealt with legitimate companies getting the address wasn't a problem, talking to the right people wasn't a problem and getting a check made to my mom's estate wasn't a problem. I got the check within 48 hours. If Trevor was so knowledgeable and investment savvy, why didn't he realize that he needed to be licensed to sell investments. Why didn't he get legal. It doesn't matter as I have several attorney friends and a relative that is a judge and Trevor's goin down.

[Webwatch]

I've sat back long enough and watched every weak argument trying to subdue the membership on the CEP forum which I have been a member of for ages by the way, forget the cries for making it private, it will never work, and I doubt the students have the programming skills to acheive it, even the forum its self is based on a free downloadable script.

CEP members this is going to be your one and only chance to take the opportunity and act now not only for the present but for your future.

Sure your paid shills will say don't listen to us naysayers and guess what I agree, don't listen to me take your case to a legal aid or independant person and discuss these things in the real world.

If CEP is legit you have nothing to worry about but if its not (which deep down many of you believe, even if your scared to admit it) then now is not the time to be stubborn.

Call me nasty, evil, whatever you like but just for once take a step back and just consider the possibility that something is seriously wrong and get some help in the real world before its too late.

[roberbs]

So sad. Here's the latest correspondence with Trevor.

I am confused as to what are you talking about, Tiffany. Neither CEP Coast nor Coastin88 are investment companies. They are advertising companies. Your mother purchased advertising through those businesses to advertise a business she was working with. You have continually been asking me about claiming money as inheritance, which is why we have been talking about your mother's CEP account, as that is an investment.

If you want access to the Coastin88 and CEP Coast accounts, please send me the e-mail address you believe was used so I can look those accounts up for you, and you are more than welcome to access them, but the advertising that was purchased was received, and no refunds are available through CEP Coast and Coastin88. Let me know about that e-mail address as soon as you can, and we will assist you. Hope that helps! Thanks.
Trevor
PS I am trying to take care of this as quickly as possible for you, as I will be on vacation beginning Friday and until early August as I am getting married. Let's try to have all this taken care of by then for you, ok? Our other employees may have more difficulty working through all of this, as it is a very new thing for our business to go through, and I want to make sure you are assisted fully. Thanks!

Now Trevor is claiming that Coastin88 and CEPCoast are not investments, they are for advertising. I doubt it if my mom would pay over $20,000 for advertising, for what business. Skye is not responding to my emails. She told me that CEP wasn't a scam. I am asking her if she still agree that CEP is not a scam, because I feel scammed.

[mitrod3]

roberts:

All the folks I have been connected to here know that the "cover" or "front" persented relating to Coast and Coast88 is "advertising" but I am not aware of a single one who actually went into this to "advertise" anything. Some even had a hard time coming up with something to put out there to advertise.

To a person they went in to make money "coasting" because of the returns to be made doing so. They made no bones about it. It was to get more money in hand, plain and simple. Some did it to have extra money to help out others and to put into worthy causes while some did it simply to make money (good return on investment) for themselves.

The folks who tried to get me into CEP even presented it as a "money making program" to provide extra income and expanded wealth, to be used however, with "advertising" as the means used to make it fly.

Edit: Just made a few calls to friends in Coast or Coast88 and to a person they said they went to make money........not to advertise.

I do hope things work out for you.

[roberbs]

You are so right. In my mom's email she spoke of it as an investment and they never corrected her and said no it's not an investment it's advertising. My mom was supporting alot of African families through World Vision and children through Children International. She wanted to use the money to build an orphanage. She went for broke and it's a shame, because her grandkids will not get what they deserve and I will not be able to build the orphanage that she wanted. I think alot of people's dreams will turn to disappointment when they catch on to Trevor. My mom died so shortly after sending money to Coastin88 that I doubt if she got anything for it, other than viewing imaginery returns on her money on the internet. It's so sad that CEP people are still thinking that I'm doing something wrong because they are so blinded. God is using people to show them before it's too late and they get hostile and refuse to see the inevitable. All we can do is pray for them that God opens their eyes. You can take your money out of legitimate investments at any time and you have more control over how it is invested. I wonder what the excuse would be for people who want to get their money out of this scheme. It's advertising.

[mitrod3]

roberts:

Do you know who presented the CEP programs to her and drew her in?

[libby]

That was my question too. Could it have been a church affiliation? There are quite a few pastors in CEP who encouraged their members to join. Those pastors are in big trouble.

[mitrod3]

As with a number of places CEP (all aspects) was marketed through the church but in our area always with the disclaimer....."don't invest what you can't afford to lose". That was a very consistant theme (and aspect of presentation) from those who shared it with us (three different couples).

We never got in because our other financial advisors warned us off.

But, in talking with some folks in the "coast" side of things they are still very pleased at the moment with how it is going as they are making roughly 30% of their investment, with a turn around time of about 65 days currently. Folks are actually still getting in right now. Whether that will hold up is still a ongoing question here. Most of those here on that side of things are still rolling along. Those on the straight CEP side are not so happy right now.

[mitrod3]

roberts:

Was your mother's estate set up so that you (or whoever) now controll her investments, whatever they may have been.

When my Mom passed (a couple years back) she had already set up everything to go directly to us, according to her wishes, through a "transfer on death" arrangement in relation to all aspects of her finances.

Do you now controll her investments in the coast side of things? What is the
executor of the estate saying about all this?

[roberbs]

No it wasn't our church, but I can see the email of who signed her up, but I don't know who it is. My mom was very religious so it could have been anyone of her friends. I am the executor of her estate and my children are the beneficiaries, which is why I am trying to get the money put in trust for them. I was able to get the money from her legitimate investments transferred to accounts for my kids, unfortunately most of it was sent to CEP just before she died. I have not been turned over her CEP accounts yet. Trevor is going back and forth with me.

[mitrod3]

No it wasn't our church, but I can see the email of who signed her up, but I don't know who it is. My mom was very religious so it could have been anyone of her friends. I am the executor of her estate and my children are the beneficiaries, which is why I am trying to get the money put in trust for them. I was able to get the money from her legitimate investments transferred to accounts for my kids, unfortunately most of it was sent to CEP just before she died. I have not been turned over her CEP accounts yet. Trevor is going back and forth with me.


Good luck to you. As executor are you now working with a lawyer familiar the ins and outs of estate/business issues? Can they step in here?

If I had not said so before.....sorry for your loss.

[roberbs]

Yes, my attorney said that I can sue on behalf of my mom's estate. I have been getting some interesting emails. Skye sent me an email explaining the ins and outs of CEP and how to get the money. She cc'd Trevor on the email, then Trevor told her that she shouldn't have said what she said and that she would be dealt with. They have given me access to my mom's accounts, but I still have questions, because there have been cash out requests since my mom's death. Coastin88 gives you like 15 seconds to rate websites, most of which seem like they are connected to other scams. I decided to put a website up for advertisement to see if traffic is driven there. I am still trying to see how this system is supposed to work, but I have little faith in it. I steer clear of anything that seems fanatical (is that a word?:confused: ).

[Golfer2]

Thanks for the update roberbs. I have a feeling you will win this battle. I think I have seen that word Fanatical before..LOL

[littleroundman]

roberbs,

how many days have passed since you first emailed "Trevor" or "Skye" ???

However many days it is are taking you closer to losing your/mothers' money entirely.

CEP is a scam, a fraud, a ponzi, a con.

It doesn't exist as a legitimate business.

It's "investments" don't exist.

It's "advertising" is merely a sham, designed to "con" the naive and unwary.

The "autosurf" industry doesn't exist EXCEPT as a vehicle to allow criminals to defraud people.

Read what the SEC says about "Autosurfing": http://www.sec.gov/investor/pubs/autosurf.htm

Or, read what happened to the last "big thing" in "Autosurfs," http://www.sec.gov/news/press/2006-26.htm

Take the word of many independent observers, who, by the way, have nothing to gain by offering their advice: CEP is about to collapse. The con has run its' course. The end is near.

Every minute you delay instituting legal action brings you closer to having all your mothers money tied up in receivership for at least 4 years.
At the end of which time you will be lucky to retain 10c in the dollar.

That's the nature of ponzi schemes.

There are no "millions" waiting to be claimed.

They have already been paid out to early members.

I am still trying to see how this system is supposed to work is a futile exercise.

The CEP "system" doesn't exist.

The only "system" in existence is the one designed to keep people from discovering the ponzi structure behind it.

Even knowing that fact will not save a single cent of your mothers' money.

Only filing a claim NOW will do that.

[Ponzi Nemesis]

Roberbs,

I can only echo Littleroundman's words. He is entirely correct; start legal proceedings immediately and you may well get everything due to you. Delay and you will have a frustrating wait as we go through the process of a receiver being appointed, etc.

I am truly sorry that you have had to get involved in this sleazy world at this difficult time for you. I suggest you distance yourself from it by putting it in the hand of an attorney. With luck the threat of imminent legal action might get you a payout forthwith; if not the attorneys fees will be justified - you do not want to engage with these people directly.

Wishing you the best of luck,
Kind regards,
Ponzi Nemesis.

[William Wallace]

Hi Roberbs,

I hear your pain and aggravation. I totally don't think Trevor & Co. handled the registration issue intelligently. I think their customer relations sucks and I think he's made mistakes that illuminate how naive he is.

However, I don't think he set out to scam us. He just might be in a world of trouble because of his lack of professionalism but, I don't think he's a crook.

Now, if funds are going to be tied up until this SEC thing is over he won't be able to pay you until then anyway. All the while you'll be paying blood sucking attorneys for spinning their wheels and then taking 1/3 of whatever you finally force CEP to give up.

So, you've got to weigh how much you're looking at receiving against how much you'll wind up with and how long it will take to get it.

Also, there really isn't any evidence that CEP is a scam. And, if it turns out that CEP is real and they resume operation as soon as the SEC is done with them, your mother's money might serve you and her grandchildren better if it is left in.

Just some points to think on.

I wish you good luck with your decision.