CEP Threats and Blame Projecting.

[Webwatch]

It was only a matter of time before Matrixwatch and the anti ponzi brigade started getting some threats due to the potential demise of CEP.
http://www.colonendparenthesis.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3264&start=15
Michael wrote:
surfguy wrote:
I'm sure Ferret and the boys over at MatrixWatch have been calling them 24/7.

Lenny


I went over there just to look around; I had never heard of them before until I read about them here. I must say that "Ferret" is one of the most hate-motivated people I've ever seen. I believe in the principle of karma, or what goes around comes around, or, as the Bible says, you reap what you sow.


Yeah, Ferret, Accountant, Ponzi Nemesis, & the other clones have theirs coming to them. Either way, I'M paying them a visit after this is over, especially if & when we come out on top. I cannot stand ANYONE who can blatantly take food out of so many people's mouths @ one time, due to their own nonsense personal agenda (that is PURE jealousy). I mean, I don't even care to speak on my situation: it's about the others: there are people who are losing their houses, due to this situation. So many other people like myself reside off of this--(I don't want to hear soliliquies or anything about 'what we should/shouldn't be doing'). There is NOTHING to be proud of as SNITCH, & were I come from, SNITCHES get dealt with in only the most 'welcoming' fashion...


JWB aka divitime
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www.globalpensionplan.net
Not much forgiveness in the Church of the Peddled Ponzi.

On the other hand if CEP is all above board and has the capital available to produce the returns Trevor promises there isn't going to be a problem and CEP members can thank us for getting the SEC involved and giving them the all clear.

With Globalpensionplan in divitimes signature I have a feeling she/he may not be the most astute investor.

Go easy on us guys, if CEP is shown to be nothing more than a Ponzi scheme think of all the hundreds if not thousands that have been saved from getting caught up in yet another online scam. That should help you sleep at night, after all it does wonders for me.

[Ferret]

Welcome to MW's newest member, KILLER!!! lol :applause: :p

I can't be bothered answering JWB aka divitime feeble
threats and I see that Accountant already said it better than I would have so "dittos"

http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showthread.php?t=103441&page=124

I'm not taking food out of anyone's mouth, except for the guys feeding their families with money they've stolen.

The sooner a ponzi collapses, the FEWER people there are losing their homes, going hungry etc.... If you happen to be one of the thiefs whose income I'm disrupting, too bad.

Try going out and earning an honest living instead of encouraging people who don't know any better to give money to criminals.

Listen closely, even y'all back in the cheap seats, YOU , yes YOU, the cheerleading masses are the ones who are responsible for these poor people going hungry, losing their homes, breaking up their marriages etc.... No one has sent me a dime, and no one who has listened to me has lost a dime, no one who heeded my advice is waiting on the SEC to (well they won't, but you don't see that yet) clear the activities of the place where they sent their retirement accounts to.

I haven't over analyzed every little tangental point to see some ray of hope where my investment hasn't been lost.

I've seen 15 odd posts over at the sheep forum asking for someone who is familiar with SEC regulations and procedures and quite frankly I am, licensed by the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, the States of Ohio, Michigan and Illinois and have represented dozens of clients to both the IRS and the SEC but no one wants to hear my opinion because I'm telling them that it's a scam, the SEC is following a script I've seen many times and it ends with people in jail, people who thought they were "in profit" paying back unlawful gains and people who lost money getting 10% on the dollar back, if that.

That is how this ends, no matter how honest you thought Trevor and the buys are, he's ruined thousands of lives, more than likely yours is one of them.

Quit asking me what I'm getting out of this, or why PN, Ferret and the rest of us do this, there is no ulterior motive, it's not any different to me than stopping some punk kid stealing a little old ladies purse, IT"S STEALING and IT"S WRONG.

Start looking instead perhaps to why YOU are running back and forth telling everyone that everythings just ducky, Trev needs to file a few papers, maybe pay a fine, but after this we'll be fine and make millions! Someone is in fact paying YOU to spout this nonsense, and they're using stolen money to do it, too.

I have no joy in being the bringer of bad news to these poor people, but that's all I am, the bringer of the news, Trevor stole their money, and you helped him do it, so maybe you should take a minute to look in a mirror before you start blaming me.

And while you're at it, Sunshine, I'd informally advise you, Skye and Pamela to get decent attorney's ASAP. Go ahead, you'll be needing the help and the sooner you get it the better.
I recommend all of you faith fraud ponzi scammers
read all of Accontants posts about the SEC on TalkGold
as he really knows his stuff and he has an interesting
challenge that none of you CEP cheerleaders will
have the fortitude to take

And on the subject of attorneys and how easy it is to register with the SEC, I will in fact pay for consultation fee to anyone here who has a registered CEP Trust account to go to an attorney and ask him a simple question, but I insist you publish his written answer on this forum.

Awty (Jeff) has made his information public and I'll pay you through him or direct to a PayPal account, whatever, but I really will pay the lawyer if you ask him this.........

Tell him you want to start an investment program that takes money from the public, but only for a week at a time every few months, most of the time you intend it to be "private" You don't want to mess with the SEC, so your willing to cut a few corners, like registering in Belize etc...You're willing to "conform to SEC regs, but not actually regsiter. (He will tell you right there one of two things, most likely he'll refer you to a securities lawyer, no competent general attorney would even attempt it, or he'll just go ahead and say it's not possible) If you get this far with him not throwing you out the window, tell him you plan to "invest" the funds into secret high level transactions that will allow you to pay 1-3% interest daily, and you'll only be paying out half (not 4 times, just half) of what you actually earn.

Hell, if someone is dumb enough to really go see a lawyer and even ask, I'll pay the fee he charges and I'll even add $100 to your e-gold or whatever account, just for the entertainment of seeing the answer posted. No cheating, I'll be calling the attorney to verify that you did indeed ask and I'll be wanting a copy of his written report (I am paying for it, after all)

Offer open until 15th July, 2007 to US residents, void where prohibited, not valid in China, Malaysia or the US Marshall Islands

I'm dead serious, go ahead and ask, quite of few of you are going to be needing an attorney soon anyhow, might as well let me pay for the first trip!

[Webwatch]

Well that about covers it.
Or as Coloners would say, dots the t's and crosses the i's. :)

Its a win win situation for the whole anti ponzi brigade. :applause:

[Ferret]

Originally Posted by divitime
Michael wrote:


surfguy wrote:
I'm sure Ferret and the boys over at MatrixWatch have been calling them 24/7.

Lenny

I went over there just to look around; I had never heard of them before until I read about them here. I must say that "Ferret" is one of the most hate-motivated people I've ever seen. I believe in the principle of karma, or what goes around comes around, or, as the Bible says, you reap what you sow. That really hurts my feelings....
I assure you I am really a lover and a big fuzzball at
heart.

Karma is superstitious crap, many truly evil people get away
with it and too many good people get the shaft.

Did you hear about the town that sort refuge in the church
from the tornado and most of them got killed?
True story that happened recently in the US, Google it

As for reaping what you sow look in the mirror......
The wiseman built his house upon the rock where as
CEP is built upon sand and the SEC is washing it away.

Now that Trevor Reed is complying with the SEC CEP
will be sending you all the answers to the question of
how he is paying returns of 720% a year and earning
4x that amount.
It won't be a secret anymore.
As I understand the SEC this will be publically available
information that will make very interesting reading.....

[Accountant]

IT's pretty simple....

"We take nw members money and pay old investors profits with some of it, we nick a certain amount for ourselves along the way. When funds get a little low, we open for new investors or moves a little over from one of the o ther 4 ponzis we run. At a later date, we plan to ***POOF*** and you'll never hear of us again.

The SEC (or whomever, I myself have some doubt it's the SEC involved) kind of ruined that last bit.

[Webwatch]

There is always a chance we could be witnessing one of the best exit stratergies ever.

Trevor (or whatever name he uses) decides that this Ponzi hasn't got enough cash to sustain itself for much longer.

So a fake SEC investigation is devised whereby CEP shuts down for a few weeks while members speculate and a few shills or fake e-mails are used to deflect attention from what is really happening and nobody is any the wiser.

In the meantime Coloners can blame the anti ponzi brigade for SEC proceedings.

Far fetched-yes, but still possible.

Any one know how long it takes for the SEC to announce an investigation or is it all kept behind closed doors for a while.

[Accountant]

The SEC does not announce investigations unless and until they have a case. Since they cannot criminally prosecute anyone, the first official word you get is that they have sought an injunction, or have agreed to a consent decree or something like. If this was a real company and they were in fact "cleared" by the SEC, the only official notice would be the company being added to the EDGAR database, which is online searchable. The SEC does not "approve" any entity, they merely accept filings and list them for the public, if you don't have a filing, they make you stop doing business and sue you etc....

[Accountant]

I to think that the "The SEC shut us down" exit strategy is kind of novel, but I don't think this lot is that clever. They ran a blatant online ponzi based in the US on the local cable company's IPO. What I really think has happened here is they succeeded beyond their wildest dreams and all of a sudden got big enough for the authorities to care and actually go after them.

[MatrixWatch]

This isn't the first time that people on other forums have had this reaction. I can see their point, especially with some of the things that I've read from the CEP community here, and Ferret's posts in particular.

I've brought this to the attention of our moderators, and some changes are in place to make MW a place for everyone to discuss. MatrixWatch is an open forum, and we have rules and moderators to help facilitate good discussion if both sides are willing to come here and do so.

It is very important for both sides to stick to the facts, and stay on point. Jokes and mockery are fun sometimes, and the humor helps to soften the difficulty of the situation everyone is in. But at some point both sides need to sit down and hash through the real issues, and ask the difficult questions.

[mercinary]

I haven't been following the CEP saga very closely, but after reading the whole conspiracy theory about the SEC, I have a suggestion. If 5-10 of you write to the SEC on the topic, it might bring some light to the situation. I would suggest a letter that includes the following:

1. A very brief description of how CEP worked.
2. A copy of the email that announced the SEC investigation.

It might spark some interest at the SEC if the investigation isn't real.

-Merc