This is Amazing.

[tcash2]

Hello!

I have been checking this site out for a few days and I find it amazing. Unless I missed something, this site is here for the purpose of getting matrix sites closed down because it is felt that they are illigle. I kow that it is stated that this is where you can find out how to get your money back but I think it goes further than that. I think the main purpose is to get the site closed down. Helping people get their money back is cool but all of this other stuff is wild.

Here we are in a country where tax evasion is a crime, but tax avoidence is the American Way. But we have poeple trying to get matrix sites closed down. Here we are in a country where the government charges us taxes on the money we make, then charges us taxes on the money we spend. Where grocery stores are set up with lottery stands where people can buy scratch off cards every day and lose a ton of money. Where there are gambling boats everywhere and some people are losing everything on these boats. Homes. CArs, Families... But we have people trying to get matrix sites closed down.

Our president tells us that we need to go to war with a country because they have weapons of mass destruction but today there is none to be found and our men are still dying. While are cities in America are experiencing mass destruction from crime. but we are trying to get matrix sites closed down.

Interest rates on homes are rising fast and people are losing there homes with no recourse. When you do finish paying for a house you have paid triple the price. You buy cars that in 5 years are not worth even half of what you paid for it. This is the best scheam in town... but we are trying to get matrix sites close down. We have a church that has priest in it who molest young boy and girls and who rarely go to jail becuase the churh seems to be above the law. but we are tryng to get matrix sites closed down. If the government can get paid from these sites, there would be no issue about legal or illegal. That is the type of country we live in. The rich get richer but the poor get poorer.


I joined a few matrix sites. I have lost about $40 so far. I have made about $55 so far. I ain't mad. When I joined, they told me that I paying for an e-book and asked me did I understand that and agree to that fact. I agreed. They told me that they would put my name on the matrix list as a gift. I siad "cool". It reminds me of how some children go to mcdonalds to get the kids meal but only for the free gift. So that's not strange to me. I'm sure if some of these site owners have to stand before a judge they are going to say that they pointed out to customers that they are buying an e-book. If I had to testify, I can only say that That is what I understood when I pushed the Agree button. I have paid for e-books before and some were very informative. some were not. Why not look for them on the net and get them for free? The same reason that I pay people to do my lawn even tho I have a lawn mower. It's my choice. About the money lines. Everything is a gamble. Gamblers anonymous is going strong with people who are addicted and losing everything. But that is legal.

I love this country and would not want to live anywhere else, but I think that our law system is very flawed and unfair. There are a lot of causes in this country that one cook champion like, getting guns out of the hands of criminals. Bringing our men back home. Applying stiffer penalties to drug dealers. Raising the minimal wage. Fighting against taxation without representation. Amazingly, we are trying to get matrix sites closed down.

[FightingBack]

That was very nice. It shows that there is a lot more important stuff we could be doing right now in America. Here we are worrying about matrix sites when there's a lot more going on in the world today.

I agree with you 100% I even admit, I have gone to McDonald's just to get the free gift they include. It IS the same exact thing with these matrix sites. 99% opt in for the free gift on a matrix site. 99% opt in at mcDonald's to get the free gift.

I also agree with the ebooks, they are informative. And the reason why you are paying for them, is because this company has gone out and found them for you. You didn't have to do any of the work to find them. This is also true. I have paid people to do things for me so I don't have to look or do the work.

Wow, I am very amazed that you brought this up. It opens my mind to think more about things going on in our world then these matrix sites. I feel that these matrix sites are the users choice to opt in. People ARE losing their houses and families over bigger problems such as casinos.

[hurley9192]

I agree that there are bigger fish to fry, but everyone can't just go after the most important thing and then move down the list. Someone has to champion a cause against matrix sites. that's what we've chosen to do here. I also am not in favor of what a lot of things in this country is doing, but I'm not on Congress and I am not about to run for Congress, so I elect a representative that will make the decision that I think is right.

My neighbors dog keeps going to the bathroom on my lawn...should I not do something about that just because it's not as important as some priest in a church molesting little boys?

This sites purpose is dedicated to helping with matrix sites. There's another dedicated to helping people that need legal advice and so on...there are a lot of things wrong, but if no one paid attention to them because they weren't as important as something else, then we'd have a bunch of people robbing stores and the police wouldn't care because there would be people murdering others. All of us have a role in society to keep others accountable. This site chooses matrix sites.

[hurley9192]

Originally posted by FightingBack
Wow, I am very amazed that you brought this up. It opens my mind to think more about things going on in our world then these matrix sites. I feel that these matrix sites are the users choice to opt in. People ARE losing their houses and families over bigger problems such as casinos.

Yeah, but according to your theory...we shouldn't care about the casinos because there are terrorists that are planning on bombing America.

also, nice analogy on the McDonald's free gift...you pay $5 for a meal and get a worthless toy...

matrix..you pay $10 on a worthless ebook and get a $500 TV

I guess some people will justify anything...

[FightingBack]

Well Hurley, I also agree with you. We can't just move down the list. But the thing is, these matrix sites haven't been made illegal yet. The example with McDonald's is the same thing.

I have worked at McDonald's before, a while back. Long time ago. And for the happy meals you wouldn't always get your prize. I remember a few times that we would run out, and we wouldn't include the prize. People would complain, but what can you do. I don't see McDonald's getting sued over this.

[concerned]

Unfortunately, in this country, we have teenagers killing other teenagers. We have drug dealers selling drugs. We have men beating up their wives. We have lots of crime in this country. We also have people wo embezzle money, rob banks, and run illegal scams. We have a judicial system that is overloaded with solving crime.

In addition to this, we have a lot of people that are on welfare. There are a lot of other things like parks, public buildings, police, ambulance services, and other things that are paid for with your taxes. People like tcash2 continue to complain about our tax system, but yet probably take advantage of most of the services that the taxes pay for. How would you like it if someone shot someone you loved, and you had to call 911. When you called, an operator got on the phone, and asked you for a credit card number so that they could get paid for their services before you can talk to them about your problem. After you talk to them, the police and ambulance show up at your door. Before your loved one gets medical treatment, the ambulance driver asks you for $1000 cash before they do anything. Then you ask the police to find the person that did this, they also ask you to run a credit check so that they can bill you for thier services. You see, those taxes pay for all of those services that you take advantage of. But you don't care.

The same thing happens when others are breaking the law. You don't care. You invest in these sites, and take advantage of the other people that are getting scammed. You don't care because you are getting money out of this. Then one day, when the lawsuits are over, and watchdog, or any of the other plaintiffs win their cases, you will be first in line to get your refunds. Why, because others stood up for your rights, while you just sat on your butt, and tried to take advantage from both ends.

As you said, we live in a society full of bad things, and you just sit back while the bad people hurt others. The people at this forum have decided to fight back. They are standing up for YOUR rights, and you come in here and bash them. You are right, we do live in a free society where you can buy ebooks if you want. We also live in that SAME free society that allows us to seek out authorities and report illegal activity to them so that nobody else will get hurt because of their actions. That is our choice to do with our time as we please. Now, you have a choice. You can sit there and do nothing, or you can try to help others NOT get scammed.

To those people that chose to stand up for everyone's rights, then I'd like to commend you for doing what is right.

To those other people, I hope I never run into you on the street. I ask you to stay in the cesspool of hate and crime that you came from. Just quit taking advantage of the services that not only your taxes pay for, but mine also. Stay out of my way, and I'll stay out of yours.

[tcash2]

Go and get the murderers. Stop people from robbing stores. Matrix sites? Where people have a choice? Where they are being told up front what is going on? If you get in for the gift and it stipulated that it is free. If you don't get it, if was free. You lost nothing. you want to stop me from participating in somthing like that because you don't like it? Come on. This government is ripping off people by the thousands. I am sure intellegent people like youselves can choose a cause that will help more people and do more good than stopping matrix sites. It is our right to pursue life, liberty and happiness. You could go up against herbal supplement companies that claim that their herbs can treat or heal or even help people with certain health problems. But wait. they put a disclaimer on the botton or back of each bottle. Come to think of it, Matrix sites have a bit of disclaimer don't they? Because of that, they are legal. And, some of them help people. I joined a matrix one time and my brother was next in line so I helped him and he spent his money to get his lights turned on in his new house. then latter i got my money back. Some (not all)of these things help people.

[tcash2]

you think I am going to be standing in a line to get a refund for $15, $20. What ever happens. I treated it just like it was stated. I got the e-book. Anything else is a plus

[mjkski]

Wow- talk about misinformation.

Rising interest rates??- the overnight avg on a 30 year is 5.72 and trending down, and by me I have seen them around 5.5. You do have to pay to use other peoples money. But you do get to deduct it from your taxes, the asset does appreciate and you get to live in it to. So how is this bad? Heck I have leveraged my home well and made about 15 thousand in appreciation in less then a year. So how is this bad?

I don't avoid my taxes. I pay them and I don't cheat as do most people I know.

One of the main reasons Sept 11 happened was because our lack of foreign policy by are last great leader who was too busy having sex with interns and not addressing other issues. Do your recall what happened two years ago from us ignoring our foreign neighbors? Some people tend to forget.

Priest out here are all getting sentenced to jail time.

Cars and vehicles deprecate- it is not an asset like a home. Why would there be great value in a item that you consumed over five years? Does your food have any value after you ate it?

Criminals are not allowed to own guns. That's a felony in itself- but see they don't care about laws do they? So do we take the guns away from the lawful owners?

Raising minimum wage does nothing. All it does is raise prices and you are still on the bottom of the food chain. Hey why don't we just make it so everyone makes 100,000 a year- that would be great!

[concerned]

Originally posted by tcash2
Go and get the murderers. Stop people from robbing stores. Matrix sites?

Like you said, you pay someone to cut your lawn, well I pay taxes to pay others to do this.

Where people have a choice? Where they are being told up front what is going on?

Are people really getting told up front what is going on? NO! Most of these people buy ONLY for the spot in line. Is the matrix owner 100% honest? NO!. Does he tell customers that only the first 2% will win. The rest will lose. Our lines already have 20 people that will cycle, and you will need 4000 people to buy which will NEVER happen, but come buy anyways. NO!

If you get in for the gift and it stipulated that it is free. If you don't get it, if was free. You lost nothing. you want to stop me from participating in somthing like that because you don't like it? Come on.

Another problem is that some of these sites are GUARANTEEING that they will get their free gift. Many people go to ebay and sell these links for hundreds of dollars and say, "I guarantee you will get a new computer."


This government is ripping off people by the thousands. I am sure intellegent people like youselves can choose a cause that will help more people and do more good than stopping matrix sites. It is our right to pursue life, liberty and happiness. You could go up against herbal supplement companies that claim that their herbs can treat or heal or even help people with certain health problems. But wait. they put a disclaimer on the botton or back of each bottle. Come to think of it, Matrix sites have a bit of disclaimer don't they? Because of that, they are legal.

So if I go to your house, and rob you at gun point and take all of your things, then it is LEGAL if I put a sticker on my forehead with a disclaimer that says "you can chose to let me rob you or shoot you". Wow, I didn't know that all you needed was a DISCLAIMER to make ANYTHING legal. You see, if you are operating a business illegally, then any contract you enter into is also ILLEGAL, and therefor UNENFORCABLE.

And, some of them help people. I joined a matrix one time and my brother was next in line so I helped him and he spent his money to get his lights turned on in his new house. then latter i got my money back. Some (not all)of these things help people.

You just proved a point I had about who invests. Why would someone buy an ebook for $200 if they don't have the money for their electricity?

[mjkski]

Come to think of it, Matrix sites have a bit of disclaimer don't they? Because of that, they are legal.

So if I put a disclaimer about the illegal business I am running I am okay? Sorry- It does not work that way- Thank God

So do I ignore the kid stealing clothes at the local store because there are bigger fish to fry? Do I ignore the kid stealing my neighbors bike? Why do Police write speeding and parking tickets when there are other things they should be doing that are more important?

Do we ignore finding the cure for Aids because more people suffer from cancer?

[hurley9192]

Just because the law doesn't say that matrix sites are illegal, doesn't make them legal. Forget it...I don't want to argue that here.

With McDonald's, the people getting the toy in the happy meal didn't have to wait until 10 other people came in to buy a happy meal before they got their prize, so it is not the same thing.

tcash...you may be missing a point here. We are about helping people who were scammed. If you bought into a matrix and knew what was going on, then fine, but that same site also has people who paid in because all they see if a place to get a deal on electronics and don't realize the magnitude of the what the scheme actually is. I realize that if they are stupid to not read the fine print, then that's their problem. However, someone needs to inform them in bigger print of what the fine print actually is. That's what we do here. We also target people on ebay who are promising some great electronic for a fraction of the price and people are paying money just to get this info because they think they are GUARANTEED the product. We are here to inform them of that as well.

[hurley9192]

Also, if you paid in and the site shut down and the owner ran off with the money, then we are here to help.

If you care about your site not getting shut down, then write to the site owner and tell them to put the Terms of Sale in big print and inform people up front what they are actually doing. That would save a lot of time...however, the site owner knows that if they put it in big print, not as many people would buy in and fewer would cycle, which would lead to their demise. Really, the ebook is a front just to try and make the site seem reasonable. Go to most of these sites...all over the home page is pictures of electronics and the ebooks are shoved to the back as a token to make it not appear to be a ponzi scheme.

[mikv]

I would like to see one site that has a picture of the ebook next to the purchase button and not the matrix product. There are so many scams within the main scam that you can't possibly justify anything. The worst part about a matrix site is you are fighting 2 battles. One with the list and one with the owner. Either you never cycle cause the list doesn't move or the owner takes off with your money. NOBODY advertises OFFLINE and ALL matrix sites DEPEND SOLELY on the CUSTOMER to bring in new customers and promote for them. The system is flawed, the "actual products SOLD are useless", and you have to deal with someone (matrix owner) that does NOT have any business experience. Not to mention the fact that alot of owners are still in High School! Sure there's bigger fish to fry, but this site and its members are here to fight the matrix fight. Afterward we'll see, but for now matrix sites are the topic on the table.

[tcash2]

As far as the disclaimer is concerned, Robbery is robbery. That's all there is to it. What I meant to say was the taxes you pay to own a house is ridicuous and there is nothing that can be done about it. If you own a home you know this. My brother has made $ 2500 from that matrix has no problem paying for electricity right now. Anybody can have a rough time in this economy. I have not been robbed or scammed. When I joined the matrix sites that I joined, I knew exactly to expect. If an e-book is worth $200 to me that's my business and my choice. A lot of this seem like some sort of personal vendetta. Attacking Matrix sites? Riverboat gambling does not disturb you. Lotto does not disturb you. They tell you up front that there is a very slim chance that the average person will not hit it. people still do it because they think that maybe there is a chance. I am with a matrix site right now that I check everyday and I can see people cycling everyday. I have been paid more than one and I am not at the very top. I love it. I have the right to pursue life love and happiness in this country and if I know what I am doing up front and nobody has tried to decieve me or trick me, then I don't know what the deal is. Closing down matrix site? come on.

[concerned]

Originally posted by tcash2
As far as the disclaimer is concerned, Robbery is robbery. That's all there is to it.

This will be the last time that I respond to this dumb thread. It is helping nobody.

You state that robbery is robbery. Well, matrix sites are matrix sites. You see pyramid schemes are illegal, so what they have done is called them matrix. That doesn't make them legal!

According to your argument, in the case of robbery, all I have to do is reword my disclaimer. It will say, "I will intrude this little metal cylinder of explosive powder into your stomach unless you permanently re-appropriate your assets into my posession."

There, now I don't say the word shoot, or rob. NOW IT IS LEGAL!

[tcash2]

hurley

I like the way you stated your case. And maybe I did miss something. There are scamms out there and I have been burned. It was not a lot of money so i chalked it up as a learning experience. The site that I am a part of now made the TOS very clear to me and I know what to expect and if something should happen, I know that it was possible. The matrix site that I am a part of has been around a couple of years and I have not heard any complaints or seen any complaints from anyone. (don't think I am going to say which one it is here) LOL. If I hear that the site I am on is totally and uniquivically illegle, then I will stop dealing with it and anyother site. I don't want to see people get money taken away from them but I think i have a right to join a matrix site if I want to and they have a right to own one if they want to as long as they do not decieve people. Also, we should know what we are getting to. I go shopping with my wife. You will not cheat her out of one dime. she is just that sharp. What ever she does with money, she know exactly what she is doing. Everyone is responsible for their own welfare. I am sure everyone on this board can out debate me. Some seem to be very good at it. Me? I just give my to cents. Untill it is totally outlawed like murder or something. Matrix sites? I can't see it.

[tcash2]

Dumb People respond to dumb thread!

I don't think that the thread is dumb nor do I think that the people who responded are dumb.

[concerned]

Originally posted by tcash2
The site that I am a part of now made the TOS very clear to me and I know what to expect and if something should happen, I know that it was possible. The matrix site that I am a part of has been around a couple of years and I have not heard any complaints or seen any complaints from anyone. (don't think I am going to say which one it is here) LOL.

I know I said no more posts here, but this is my last one. YOU WERE DUPED! I thought these sites were up front with you?

There has not been ONE site opened for a couple of years. Maybe 1 year and 6 months, but NEVER a couple of years. In addition, you don't have to tell us which site it is, because we know which ones could have been around close to that long. There could be only maybe 2-3. And don't worry, I'm sure that they have already been reported to the authorities.

[peterdragin]

tcash2 I bet you didn't hit the accept button because you wanted the E-Book.

You wanted the "gift"

[tcash2]

You don't know why I pressed the accept button. What ever reason. It is my choice. All I know is, they said I was paying for an e-book. I made a decision. Conjecture does not when many cases.

[mjkski]

tcash2

The difference with the lotto or gambling is the odds and how it is set up. Do you want to be number 100 on a 15 cycle list? Does it matter if I buy my lotto ticket on Monday or Tuesday?

I do understand about your money and doing what you want with it. But life and society is just not like that. You have to pay taxes, you have to drive the speed limit. Well you can break those laws but there are consequences to them. Just like I am not allowed to spend my money on illegal drugs. I am not allowed to purchase the services from a prostitute. Even if both are consenting adults and all agree to those services. See- it's not just about you. It's about how it effects others. Why can't I buy explosives with my own money? Why can't I buy a poison gas with my money? If my wife is okay with me hitting her when I am mad- does it matter?- No, the police will still arrest me! I know the differences are extreme but the premise is the same. It's not just about you and the Matrix owner, it is also about the poor sap who is number 200.

[peterdragin]

But I bet you would have never pushed that button with what you know now about a Matrix.

[tcash2]

I do not know what other people have gone through or who has been scammed. I did my home work and made a decision and I like it. Everyone has a choice. Lotto and other legal gambling are still hurting many more people than matrix sites but becuase our corrupt government can make money off of it. it is legal. As far as presidents are concerned. The last is just as bad as the one we have now. We talk about taxes and crime and so forth. All of us has tax money being missued and thrown away. War on drugs is a joke. so forth and so on. Bottom. If anybody joins a matrix site, they should understand what's at stake. I believe most people do. Those that don't will end up a victim of some match stick man anyway.

[tcash2]

If I had not found the one that I am with now, I would be looking and if I liked what was being presented. I would push the accept button.

[peterdragin]

May you get a high number !

[tcash2]

You wishing me good luck or hoping I get a high number so it will show me how long it could take

[tcash2]

This thing is about me and who ever wants it to be about them. It's me joing a site and knowing what I am doing when I join. Also, We are not talking about AIds Or cancer. We are talking about Major issues agains something as petty as Matrix sites. If I am going to fight for something, is going to be something serious as Drunk Driving or something. Matrix sites.........?

[mikv]

I like how most customers will say how they "did their homework" just like a matrix owner, but when the law comes knocking it's all about "oh I didn't know that" or "that's just in your state", etc...
You couldn't have done your homework and still come up with the conclusion to buy in. Doing your homework "should" entail you reading the TOS , visit the Rankings & FAQ page, and communicating with the site owner BEFORE purchase. Doing so will almost certainly DETER you from buying in EVERY TIME. You will see, especially with the "no named" site (I'm sure we all know which site you are speaking of) that the advertised product is NOT what you are actually buying, that the lists for "waiting to cycle" is ALWAYS bigger than those that have cycled, and the average time to get your item is either when the cows come home or hell freezes over, and that the site pushes more for the CUSTOMER to advertise. All signs that the owner is NOT business savvy and has no outlook on their own future. If after all that you still opt to buy in, that is of course your right; but when the site fails and either shuts down or the owner skips town, we'll see you here asking how to get a refund.

[tcash2]

Why would I come here to complain about a few dollars. My homework is not base on what they want me to know. it is based on what I want to know. Once I know it. I decide. It's my right. As I said be for. I have been paid and have not recruited but one person.

[mikv]

Well like I wrote before in another thread, as long as there is a smiling face on the person that is screwing them, some customers have no problem with it.

[tcash2]

That should shut you up and give you the opportunity to champion some worthy cause since your great wisdom have led you to such a wise deduction.

[mikv]

LOL...Don't try to sound intellectual now, your ignorance preceeds you....Your homework has led you to believe nothing but the con that the site owner has setup for you. Great discussion, although next time bring your brain with you.

[MatrixWatch]

This is an interesting discussion. Welcome to the site tcash2. Thanks for taking the time to share your opinion. First, I would highly recommend that you, and the other new members, go to the "Legal Issues" folder in the forums and read a thread entitled "Illegal Lottery". The question is not whether matrix sites are illegal, the issue is that they have not been charged with it yet.

The reason I bring up the illegal lottery thread is because you are still thinking about legality in terms of how the matrix owners have made you see it. Their biggest hurdle is the pyramid/ponzi issue. They do not want to be charged as one of those because it is a felony. So, they sell the ebook as a "viable" product and they put you in the list for free. Unfortunately, what they did by default is create an illegal lottery. No one is allowed to sell a product in exchange for an entry into a game of chance. So, whether or not people knew what they were buying (eBooks) or not, the fact is that the matrix sites did not check with their attorneys before getting themselves into this mess.

It is a game of chance because of what California law states about consideration. Usually when we say chance, people think of a game of Bingo, but there are other ways that laws define games of chance. Matrix sites have created one of those scenarios, and that is why they are being shut down.

I would suggest that you drop the issue about other crimes. If we are successful with Matrix Watch, then there is a chance that we will go after other forms of internet scam. However, every cause must start somewhere. Did you read the new lawsuit filed against EmatrixUSA? The plaintiff gave $4000 to a matrix site! That is not a small amount of money. We are here to help people like him.

[hurley9192]

now now...settle down here

tcash has a point...if he wants to put his money into a matrix site and help someone else cycle, then he is entitled to do that knowing full well what is going on.

My problem comes when you put an auction on ebay telling everyone that you know a place to get cheap electronics and make them believe that they are going to get something automatically.

Just remember that you may recieve something, but there may be a few people that contributed to you getting it that didn't know what was going on and were duped into a false belief.

[tcash2]

I been trying to tell you. I am satisfied. My home work has led to something that I am comfortable with. Just what I was looking for. Everyone is not as dumb as you are trying to make them. I am not dumb at all. I am college degreed and work a job everyday. I like dealing matrixes. It's fun.

[tcash2]

Hurley

That was well said. I would hate to go to ebay and think that I am buying a piece of electronics and then find out I bought something else. Also, I will never put $4000 in to a matrix site. Maybe half if I got it from the matrix site. Everything is chance. Just like the people who play lotto or lottery. As I said. I agreed that I paid for an e-book. They said I was paying for an e-book.
Everything else is does not matter to me. When the tell me that selling e-books are a crime, I will stop buying them. If you stopped me on the street and asked me what did I buy from that matrix site. The only thing that I could say is I bought an e-book. That's all they said I was paying for. What about the cycle line? They said that I was not paying for that. That is Free. Okay! I know that this stuff is not like the crime and everything else that I mentioned but it just seem strange that people are trying to get sites closed down. As i said. It seem like someone was taken by a site owner and decided to go on a witch hunt. If you are getting people their money back from real crooks and scamm artist with bogus websites, then my hat is off to you. Go and get em Hurley!

[hurley9192]

In all seriousness, as a matrix "customer", you should review the things that we are going after, and alert the sites that you want to be a part of, to get in compliance to protect your future possibilities.

Otherwise, if they aren't in compliance, we are going to work towards bringing them down. If they are taking advantage of people or it looks like they may be a little shady, we are going to target them.

[mjkski]

Tcash

I don't think you should belittle the cause.
Fraud has many faces and it is a multi billion dollar a year problem. I would be very careful and selective of what Matrix you get involve with. You are playing in a house of cards and my guess is that it will be blown down in the very near future. Then I can go on to my new cause of saving the spotted owl.

[mjkski]

Tcash

Here is some causes that I thought you might want to pursue since you don't like this one here.

CITIZENS AGAINST FORSYTHE BRIDGE
(Pace)People against Chimpanzees experiments
People Against Wolves
People of faith against the death penalty
CITIZENS AGAINST NOISE (C.A.N.)
People For Internet Responsibility
CARE - Citizens Against Residential Encroachment
Citizens Against Ugly Street Spam (CAUSS)
Citizens Against Tolls
Citizens Against Breast-Feeding
CITIZENS AGAINST UFO SECRECY (CAUS)

and my all time favorite

P.A.M.V- People against Mini Vans I am going to join this one!- LOL

Now go bother those people- LOL :D

[poorme]

Tcash needs to get himself cycled not help other cycle.