gotmatrix and plugnplay

[hurley9192]

gotmatrix...

any word on what's going on with plugnplay? did you find out anything if Watchdog's words were true that you were no longer going to have a working relationship with them?

[Got Matrix]

We don't have any problems with PlugNPay as stated before.

[concerned]

Does this mean that your Audit is complete? If so, do you mind saying what they told you?

[Got Matrix]

No my audit is not complete, but the audit had nothing to do with PlugNPay

[MatrixWatch]

Originally posted by Got Matrix
We don't have any problems with PlugNPay as stated before.

Greg,
Your matrix lists are so long that the slightest draft of negative media will tip them over, and the customers will begin to come here. That is why you are denying this situation. Please.. Either tell the truth, or don't answer questions on this forum at all.

We both know what is going on between you and PlugNPay, but here are some indicators for those just a step outside the circle.

- PlugNPay has recently changed their Terms of Service to now deny service to matrix sites.

- You have removed the PlugNPay option from your orders-checkout page. That is a pretty extreme move for what you call an "account inquiry".

- You have recently added a new payment option, Solar Pay, to your site.

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Do the math from there. Greg, please 'fess' up. You are denying the whole thing so you don't eat crow for all those legal threats you made the day I announced it.

[Got Matrix]

This will be my last post here at MatrixWatch.org. I try to post the correct informatoin but all you people do is complain about it because it's not what you wanted to hear. Even though you will not believe what I say, I know this from the past conversations, I tell you this is the truth:

-I have not been made aware of any changes to their TOS and they know the type of site that I operate along with my domain and products being purchased

-PlugNPay has not dropped my service, my merchant bank (a different company) is performing a routine audit. During this time funds from credit card ordres are held, therefore I decided to temporarily remove the credit card option until the audit is over simply so I have the funds at hand to purchase the promotional gifts.

-I came across SolarPay and they seem like a decent pay company so I added them incase any potential customer chooses to use them.


It's been a short, unhelpful, unwelcome visit here at MatrixWatch.org and I hope that some day you will all work towards something worthwhile. I'd like to see you stop hijacking threads, twisting conversations around, and informing people with incorrect information. You should work on getting sites that are ripping people off shut down. Why waste your time on sites that people are profiting from and have 95% customer satisfaction?

I wish you all the best, and I hope that you can work towards these goals that I've laid out for you.

[concerned]

Originally posted by Got Matrix
This will be my last post here at MatrixWatch.org. I try to post the correct informatoin but all you people do is complain about it because it's not what you wanted to hear. Even though you will not believe what I say, I know this from the past conversations, I tell you this is the truth:

You should at least come here one more time and post a formal apology to watchdog WHEN your deal with PlugNPay finally goes south. After all, it was you that was whining about an apology.


-I have not been made aware of any changes to their TOS and they know the type of site that I operate along with my domain and products being purchased

You are wrong about this. You were made aware of this HERE!

-PlugNPay has not dropped my service, my merchant bank (a different company) is performing a routine audit. During this time funds from credit card ordres are held, therefore I decided to temporarily remove the credit card option until the audit is over simply so I have the funds at hand to purchase the promotional gifts.

My response to this is that you are giving false information. Either you are giving false information here at this forum, by telling us that PlugNPay is NOT doing the audit, or you are giving false information at your own GotMatrix forum by telling your customer that you ARE being audited by PlugNPay. Which is it?

This is what you wrote at your own forum.
As many of you know MatrixWatch.org has dedicated itself to try to get matrix sites shut down. A non customer filed a complaint against our credit card processor and now they're doing an audit. This will last from 2-7 days according to my representative. During this time we will not be able to process any credit cards. MatrixWatch.org recently posted after filing this complaint that our processor dropped us completely, which is untrue. PlugNPay is only auditing our account due to their complaints. There shouldn't be any worries during this time whereas we will still be accept payment through Xcompte.com, GottaPay.com, money orders, & checks.

Please tell us what it is. Is it PlugNPay doing the audit, or "another company"? Also, you posted that you took down the link because any credit card processed would have the funds frozen, but on the post I copied from your forum, it says you CANNOT process cards.


-I came across SolarPay and they seem like a decent pay company so I added them incase any potential customer chooses to use them.

You make yourself look like an idiot to your customers because it LOOKS like you are positioning yourself for a future WITHOUT PlugNPay.

It's been a short, unhelpful, unwelcome visit here at MatrixWatch.org and I hope that some day you will all work towards something worthwhile. I'd like to see you stop hijacking threads, twisting conversations around, and informing people with incorrect information. You should work on getting sites that are ripping people off shut down. Why waste your time on sites that people are profiting from and have 95% customer satisfaction?

I wish you all the best, and I hope that you can work towards these goals that I've laid out for you.

Well, to answer this, we ARE going after the sites that are ripping off people. Unfortunately, your site and ALL other sites that operate matrix sites are on that list, since ALL matrix sites ripoff people.

NEW PEOPLE OUT THERE, PLEASE UNDERSTAND THIS. THESE MATRIX SITES ARE BAD. HERE YOU HAVE AN OWNER OF A SITE ACCUSING MATRIXWATCH OF POSTING FALSE INFORMATION, AND AS YOU CAN SEE ABOVE, HE WAS THE ONE POSTING FALSE INFORMATION. AND THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE ONE OF THE MORE RESPECTED OWNERS IN THE COMMUNITY. IF THAT IS THE CASE, YOU CAN IMAGINE WHAT THE OTHERS ARE UP TO.

THESE ARE SCAMS!!! STAY AWAY!!!!!!!!!

[hurley9192]

95% customer satisfaction? Who do you poll? If 90% of the people that are in your matrix don't receive anything, how do you get 95% satisfaction?

I'm just guessing that poll is based on only the people that respond. Most of the people on your matrix probably don't know they are on the list because some clown on ebay signed them up for the list and told them to wait 5-6 months before they get a product.

[MatrixWatch]

I knew I read somewhere that GotMatrix was being heavy handed by PlugNPay. I was confused when he said this morning that it was another company. Thanks Concerned for finding those quotes.

[concerned]

Originally posted by watchdog
I knew I read somewhere that GotMatrix was being heavy handed by PlugNPay. I was confused when he said this morning that it was another company. Thanks Concerned for finding those quotes.

You were probably confused because GotMatrix is posting FALSE information, which is what HE is accusing you of doing. Funny how someone can accuse you of doing something that he does all the time.

[sigx97]

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[hurley9192]

actually, if asked the question in court, he would have to admit that he did hear about it here, even if you think the source may not be correct.

We hear lots of things on the internet every day, just because you don't like the source, doesn't mean that you didn't hear about it.

[sigx97]

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[concerned]

Just because a company changes their policy doesn't mean they have to write the word matrix in it. I think this statement from their policy takes care of the problem.

Grounds for Suspension and Termination. You agree to comply with these Terms and Policies, as well as the applicable rules, regulations and policies of any network accessed through the Service. Any violation of either these Terms and Policies or the other rules, regulations or policies noted above may serve as cause for PNP to suspend or terminate your account. You agree that PNP has the right, with or without notice, to suspend or terminate your account upon the first or subsequent occurrence of any of the following:

Using the Service in a way which constitutes violation of any applicable statute, law, court order, tariff, regulation, or treaty (including, but not limited to, intellectual property, communications, privacy, criminal and international law);
Using the Service in a manner intended to abuse or violate the privacy or property rights of others, including but not limited to sending of unsolicited bulk e-mail ("spamming");
Using the Service in a manner intended to facilitate, through support of commercial activity, the abuse or violations of the privacy or property rights of others, including but not limited to sending of unsolicited bulk e-mail ("spamming");
Using the Service in an attempt to break security, or so as to actually break security of any computer network (including the Service itself), or to access and/or intercept an account of which you are not the owner or a communication on which you are not the sender or intended recipient;
Using the Service for unauthorized relays through any third party systems;
Attempting, in any way, to interfere with or deny service to any user or any host on the Internet;
Attempting to cancel, supersede, or otherwise interfere with e-mail or USENET posts other than your own;
Engaging in harassment, whether through language, frequency, or size of messages;
Furnishing false data on your sign-up form, contract, or online application, including providing fraudulent credit card or other payment information.

If they think that a matrix site is illegal, they can shut you down based on the part in bold seen above. Remember it is their terms. They can interpret what they consider illegal in any way shape or form.

[hurley9192]

Originally posted by sigx97
Ok I also heard Elvis is alive from a crackhead.



well, if you are ever asked the question in court if you heard that Elvis is alive, you would have to answer yes. The attorney will cut you off and just ask for yes or no answer, so that's how the jury will hear it.

Mr. so and so...were you ever notified that Plug n play changed their terms of service to include illegal websites, yes or no? If he says "no", he just committed perjury.

I deal with this stuff all the time because I do a lot of litigation consulting. That's the way attornies ask questions, even if you don't agree.

[concerned]

I am still waiting answers from Got Matrix. Read my long post on the previous page. I want to know the truth about the audit. Who is conducting it? Were you telling the truth at your own forum, or at matrixwatch forum. You couldn't be telling the truth at both, now could you?