I'd like to help

[spiderjohn]

I'm new to this site and the forums but I'd like to try and keep ebay clean from rip-offs and scams.

I've been a registered ebay user (both seller and buyer) since 1996 and think it's the greatest garage/yard sale site in the world.

I've had my share of bad experiences on ebay, not many mind you, I'm a little shrewd when it comes to " If it looks too good to be true, then it probably isn't", but I don't want to see a good thing like ebay ruined by a few greedy individuals.

I've been hitting on search terms looking for those "too good to be true" auctions and have come across a couple.

I've reported 2, 1 has been terminated, but the other has me worried.

It's for one of those Alienware laptops and I'm pretty sure it's a matrix entry.

All the bidders are newbies, and I know that the winner doesn't have the faintest idea of what's going on.

I've reported this one to ebay stating that I think it violates their Pre-Sale listing, but nothing's been done yet and it ends in about 12 hours, and I'd hate to see someone lose over $1000.

Here's the auction link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3431305186&category=46323

Can anyone else check this out and see if I'm wrong, and if not, maybe report them also and stop a scam.

[spydrman]

Yeah, just read the last few lines of the auction.

"The shipping is free. This item might take a few months to deliver but with this great deal, it shouldn't matter. "

It might take a few months for shipping???? LOL Last time I visited the post office it only takes 3-7 days for First Class. At the few months rate, you would think the guy was walking to deliver it to you.

It sure sounds like he's just going to buy you a spot in a matrix, pocket the profit, and send you the alienware after he cycles and receives it a few months down the road. That's just a guess, but I'd bet i'm not too far off.

[spiderjohn]

Here's another one.

Check out the other items and his feedback. He's got quite a few P.O. 'd people leaving negative feedback.

His auction also states that you will receive the item with the ebook. Huh!

This is a direct quote from his auction:
"upon purchasing this ebook you will get a "FREE" brand new sony dav-c990, but then again you will have to wait a while for the sony dav-c990"

He keeps contradicting himself, in the description he states more than once you are buying an e-book and you will receive another item with it.

I'd report him too to ebay, but I don't know how or what rule this one's breaking, but he has to be breaking some rule.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=39817&item=3047129608

Any help on reporting this guy would be appreciated, I hope he's ripped off his last customer.

[mjkski]

Like he said it is a Pre-Sale Listings violation.

[spiderjohn]

And yet another.

Looks like this one knew when to "Get outa Dodge"

He had 234 auctions over a 4 day period last week, at the price of $8.99 each, that's a little over $2100. Now he doesn't have any more stuff up for sale, but I'll bet he'll be back under another name soon.

Not bad for a weekends work.

User ID is: baggydags.

His feedback was also hidden, I wonder how many people complained.

[mjkski]

I would go with the old standby of Misleading Titles on that one.

[spiderjohn]

I didn't realize how rampant this rip-off stuff was on ebay until I stumbled across your site and did some checking into auctions on ebay.

It looks like the typical guy can make about a grand or 2 over a weekend selling matrix email addresses to the unsuspecting.

Oh if only I didn't have any scruples or morals, I'd probably be doing it too.

[mjkski]

Your too fast for me spiderjohn-LOL. I respond and then you have two other posts in front of what I meant to respond too- LOL . Anyway, here is a list I got off this site earlier from the king of ebaywatch which might help you out. Yes 2 grand for a stupid web site- not bad money. But how does someone sleep at night doing that to a fellow person. Scumbags. Happy hunting!



Just a little information on ebay and getting the "info" auctions canceled, and how and what rules to use. The way ebay has refined it’s rules, there is NO WAY these types of auctions are allowed in any way shape or form !!!


So here’s the way to get it done.
If an auction listing has a product in the title , like Play Station 2 Cheap, or X Box for 25 Dollars. This is a Misleading title and here is the URL for that and what Ebay says is misleading.

http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/listing-titles.html
Misleading titles are any titles that do not accurately describe the item for sale.

Now those auctions that say I have a secret website that sells an X Box for xx dollars.
This is circumventing fees, here is the URL for that one and what Ebay says is circumventing fees.

http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies...cumventing.html
Offer outside of eBay - offering the opportunity to purchase the item or other merchandise outside of eBay through an item listing.

You can also use the URL sales rule on this one also it’s about the same and works also.
Here’s the URL for that rule and the wording from Ebay

http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/catalogs.html
Listings of URLs that offer buyers the opportunity to purchase items outside of eBay are prohibited.

Now for those who think if you put it on a Floppy disc or a CD you are out of luck also, Ebay has a rule for you guys.

http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/compilation.html
Listings that include compilations or informational content on any media are subject to the following restrictions

Keywords that relate to a specific item may not be used in a title unless the listing is the item.
The listing may not offer information on how to purchase items outside of eBay.
The listing may not offer information on how to receive items for free outside of eBay.

[spiderjohn]

mjkski
I understood.

I went back to ebay for the last 2 hours or so and my heads spinning, my eyes are blurry and my fingers ache from pressing the mouse button on so many of those auctions.

I reported about 20 more, but that's just the tip of the iceberg.

I used both the URL one and the one about not having the items on hand - the Pre sale one.

There's just too much out there for one person.

Everyone needs to read these 2 auctions (actually they have more than 1 running at the same time).

I emailed one of them and gave them a thumbs up for doing their part.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3047294130&category=11073

and

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3047286009&category=39828

Good night all.

[peterdragin]

User ID is: baggydags. He is Now number 417 on the NARUed sellers list.

Keep up the reporting of auctions, the more people who report these sellers the faster they get kicked off Ebay !!

[hurley9192]

One HUGE way to help the people bidding is to email them and let them know of the scam as well.

That way, they won't be stuck paying and trying to get money back later on.

[hurley9192]

Originally posted by spiderjohn

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3431305186&category=46323




EVERYONE NEEDS TO EMAIL THIS BUYER AND LET THEM KNOW OF THE SCAM!!! THEY CAN'T LOSE $1600 TO THIS LOSER.

[spiderjohn]

They're getting bolder.

Iv'e already reported this one for fee circuvention and listing a URL in his title.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3431622553&category=31545

and

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3047584369&category=11073

And by the way, has anyone heard of this matrix site?

His FAQ's state:

3. Is it legal? Yes, this marketing system is completely legal according to US Postal and Lottery Laws, Title 18, Section 1302 and 1341, or Title 18, Section 3005 in the US code, also in the code of federal regulations, Volume 16, Sections 255 and 436, which state a product or service must be exchanged for money received. In this case, your product is the eBook and we give you its corresponding gift.

He doesn't say anything about breaking other state or federal laws, like operating a Ponzi scheme, lottery, etc...

[concerned]

Please see my MLM laws thread about the legality. I will post something in there. It will come to the top of the list as soon as I finish. Give me a few minutes.

[MatrixWatch]

Well.. It looks like the eBay Watch Dogs are functioning well.. You make me so proud!:)

[hurley9192]

awwww...gee...thanks Dad.

[MatrixWatch]

That's funny. As I read through my last post it does sound rather "fatherly". Sorry about that.

[spiderjohn]

Here's a new twist.

There's an auction up from the UK with the following title:

Cheap Plasma TV info - ** SCAM EXPOSED **

The charge for the info is 1 GBP or roughly $1.59 US.

I guess it's cheaper than buying into a matrix.

I just wish there was a way to promote MatrixWatch.org on ebay or get better exposure on the web.

[spiderjohn]

This one stinks.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3047935077&category=32863

His title states that he's selling a plasma TV, but the ad is nothing more than one page of manufacturer specs, not one word about him selling anything.

User ID's kept secret, no probem there. His choice.

Pre-approved bidders only.

It just sounds like a scam to me.

Maybe I being overly cautious lately.

Oh yea, he's sold a ton of watches and video games in the last couple of months, but I guess he could have this item up for sale.



Another one I reported yesterday is still up. I guess ebay doesn't care that this guy isn't going to pay them any final seller fees.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3047082022&category=11073

In the ad he states:

****Please don't bid, only send money via Paypal****
****Please note you are purchasing the information NOT the actual TV****

OK, gotta go, gotta get ready for the hurricane. I wonder if it will be like snowstorms. No toilet paper, milk, bread or bananas in the stores.
Bananas????????

[peterdragin]

It takes Ebay 24 to 36 hours acccording to them, but some times longer if they are swamped . I reported the same auctions already also .

[spiderjohn]

Can I get some help on this one.

I was looking for info about an item I want to post (past sale prices) when I ran across this seller abusing the "Misleading Item Titles" and I don't know how to report all his auctions.

Ebay User ID is: eeoars

He's registered on September 9, 2003 and started selling on the 18th (yesterday) and in the last 2 days has sold info for $8.99 on over 150 auctions to mostly newbies, and he has another 508 ending in the next 6 days.

All his titles start out as "FREE ....." and the first line of his as states:

"Remember: You are not bidding on the actual electronics."

If this was for only 1 or 2 items, I'd report him myself, but 508. That's some serious money if they all sell, like his first 150 did.

[concerned]

What I did, was list a few of them and reported them. In the text, I said that ALL of his auctions are of this type. They will look at all of them. I picked about 3 at random, but I always report their first one. I figure that everyone that reports the same one will get him off faster. If you report, and of course peterdragin and hurley will report them also, they will be gone in no time.

[hurley9192]

yep, reported him.

[spiderjohn]

Thanks, I'm learning.

[muggs]

Originally posted by spiderjohn
I was looking for info about an item I want to post (past sale prices) when I ran across this seller abusing the "Misleading Item Titles" and I don't know how to report all his auctions.

Ebay User ID is: eeoars



This isn't a matrix auction. I have bought one of these before to see what it is all about. They just send you a whole bunch of links to sites where you can get free stuff. But I have never gotten anything worthwhile just posters and coupons for free cat food.

muggs

[concerned]

It still doesn't matter. They are still against ebay rules.

[muggs]

Did not know that. You learn something new everyday.

muggs

[peterdragin]

They have been reported already.

I see this stuff all the time and ebay cancels them quick.

[hurley9192]

there are a bunch more up under "alienware" just type that into the search. I reported about 5 tonight.

If they are just selling links or something else, but using the title of the laptop, they are keyword spamming. Also, they are circumventing fees by selling the link to the actual product outside of ebay.

[mjkski]

I hit those too last night. Those Alienware people seem pretty relentless. There's an idiot that actually admits he is selling a Matrix link. I guess they didn't read the rules. LOL

[hurley9192]

here's one of the idiots...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3432145840&category=46323

[spiderjohn]

MJKSKI
Not only the Alienware computers, but the plasma TV's too.

It seems that they're after the big buck items and know the newbies will spend their couple of bucks on info trying to get a multi thousand dollar item for pennies.

Back to "eeoars" on ebay. I sure hope they get him off there soon. He now has close to 1,000 items posted with almost 400 sales at $9 a pop, by the time he gets done (or caught) he could have close to $10 grand in his Paypal account.

[mjkski]

Yes- I don't understand why Ebay does not take the time and spend the money to be more timely on people like this. If it was my company I would be definitely spend a few more dollars to prevent sellers like this. Ebays slow reaction time has the potential ruin the name of Ebay and scare people away from further purchases. Why don't they see this? I have seen a recent commercial for Ebay on TV- I thought the money would of been better spent on preventing these type of things. But then again- what would I do with my free time if they actually did this themselves- LOL:D

[hurley9192]

how come we haven't seen this no talent *** clown yet????

ashvin69 has been scamming people for weeks on ebay...let's take him down.

He claimed that he wasn't doing anything wrong but selling an ebook for $275...ok buddy. When has an ebook been worth $275 unless you are tricking people into thinking they are not buying an ebook but a spot in line?

[hurley9192]

eeoars is running a ton of auctions as well. These guys need to go. I actually found one of his by accident because my wife was looking for a copier/scanner/fax and he was running one of the auctions. Over 40 people have left him positive feedback in the past few days.

[spiderjohn]

hurley9192,
I was checking on him earlier too, he's doing about 20 sales an hour today, and he's listing about 200 new auctions a day now.
He was just listing around midnight, but it seems he found a gold mine, and now he's listing early and late in the day and selling them like crazy.
All those poor newbies getting scammed. But he is starting to rack up some negative complaints, maybe after a few more, some of the potential buyers will read his comments first before buying, but I doubt it.

[peterdragin]

All of eeoars auctions have been canceled, Just need to watch him he will post more I bet.

[spiderjohn]

649 sales in a little under 3 days.

[Lancer]

Hopefully they will suspened these guys and terminate their accounts.

[mjkski]

Yes, I will have to place eeoars in "My Favorite Sellers/Stores" location for future reference. I am sure the weasel eeoars will try some other ways to scam ebayers down the road. I have his little rat hole in my crosshairs now- LOL

[mjkski]

LOL- You have got to love this guy. .....lets see if I make the print really small then I can get away with the scam right?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3432289576

See how he says it wont last long either! I guess at least he is being truthful about that.

[spiderjohn]

He's back.

Not under the name eeoars, but he is now h.grove.

I've already started the process.

He's not too swift on his titles or his ad.

Instead of starting his titles with the word FREE like the other ones, so a search won't pick them up, he starts them with a period then FREE.

Check him out.

In the time it took me report him, he made a sale, and already has 5 sales since he listed over 200 auctions about 2 hours ago.

They just don't learn do they. But I guess once you get that taste of all that free money in your Paypal account and see those dollar signs and commas, you'll try anything.

[mjkski]

Yea I saw that too.. Ebay is fast tonight- the ads are already gone.

[spiderjohn]

His bulk lister is putting them in faster than ebay can wipe them out.

Also, where would I put info about some new matrix sites that are just opening, in the General Topics of the main forum.

[hurley9192]

that is going fast. I don't know why ebay can't go back and make him refund his customers. I started emailing some of them and telling them about the scam.

[spiderjohn]

Looks like I found him again, I guess he stayed up later than me last night, and listed right around midnight, too late for me on that one.

This time he is: r-kirksey

I've reported him again, won't he ever learn or ebay neither, just ban him.

All his ads are exactly the same, same pics, same words (I've checked his page source to verify it) unless he's ripping off those other 2 sellers and using their ads. Highly unlikely though.

Now he's getting a little bolder or smarter too, and doing his listings with 100 available on each auction, the others were buy it nows for 1 each. This way he don't have to list over 1000 and keep bulk uploading them.

Unfortunately he still gets off a few sales before they shut him down.

[peterdragin]

Ya I saw him to and reported him.

[hurley9192]

Interesting, he may have a few accounts going. The new accounts seem to have a lot of purchases of recipes, so there be a link there. Also, he may be hijacking someone's ebay account and has found people that have good feedback. I just emailed about 50 of his buyers and informed them as well.

[hurley9192]

I've already received 3 emails from buyers of this clown and they are pissed that they got scammed by him. I definitely think that if we can email the buyers as well, that we can get more people on our side and really ramp up our ebay efforts.

These sellers on ebay need to go down for this.

[MatrixWatch]

Good job. The more "eBay Watch Dogs" we can recruit the better.

[peterdragin]

Tell thoses people to complain to paypal if they used them to pay for the auction, If he has no paypal account he will have a much harder time doing business on ebay.

[MatrixWatch]

I'm going to close this thread since it is getting too long for the new members. Feel free to start some new ones though.