SHould I Or Shouldn't I????

[sexystudpapp17]

:confused: Hmmmmm I know most matricies are only good for a limited time when your like the 10th person on a 10 person matrix it's not to bad you wait a few weeks. . . but when it comes to ez expo you wait for years before you even cycle because there has to be like 30000 people. go to this new one and check it out www.choicematrix.com it seems pretty good not to many people wait for an x box and gamecube are basically none. and the tv's aren't to bad of a wait. . . . so check ti out and tell me what ya think

[MatrixWatch]

I don't think that you understand what we are trying to accomplish here at Matrix Watch. We are not here to help you cycle off a list. Let me ask you something. What will happen to the people who join under you? What about those who join under them? The will be trapped, and will never cycle. Do not promote matrix sites here. The biggest site of them all, EzExpo, is under a big lawsuit right now for running an illegal business. Your matrix site may be run the same way. You had better think about that. I just cannot BELIEVE that with all we have written on our forums you would still be able to stand behind a matrix site. Where have I failed in my attempt to educate the matrix community that you would post this?

[Shelby]

Well Timmy, you fail to understand you cannot make them go away, you fail to understand you are not going to win anything, you failed to understand people know you are a liar, you fail to understand matrices are not a lottery, you failed...well you fail to understand anything as far as most can tell.

[sexystudpapp17]

Believe me i know that the people under me are gonna be trapped and get screwed but that's not my fault and yeah hey ez expo licks balls what can i say but it's not my fault if the people who come in under me dont' understand they screwed. I wish i coudl tell them that but your not given info on eachother. Seriously there will always be matricies as soon as one closes 10 more open and even if the make a law restricting certain things they will always find a new way to do business you think these people are con artist yes i agree to some extent and some are just running a business i'm not promoting matricies in any way but some are legit for awhil then they get to crowded. . . .Plus why not let people know about matricies because there always goign to go there so you might as well tell them which are good which are bad and which are being sued.

[dbright]

"i'm not promoting matricies in any way but some are legit for awhil then they get to crowded"....sexystudpapp17 a matrix site will never be 'legit"....it's a business model that will not EVER work. By joining one you are promoting it and by your attitude of "it's not my fault" tells me that you really don't care if the people under you get screwed as long as you get your free gift. It is your fault just by joining. You are supporting a classic ponzi/pyramid scheme. I don't care how many matrix site owners come in here saying how their products are worth something. It's all BS because if they did have any value they wouldn't need the matrix to promote them. You don't see any real business doing this kind of promotion do you? Does the "17" in your nick indicate your age?.....because it sure sounds like it, else how do you explain your "don't give a damn" attitude.

[Arzel]

That "I don't give a damn" attitude is a major part of the problem.

In my time experiencing the matrix world, it seems to be the prevaling attitude for those peole near the top of the list.

What these people fail to realize is that the people below them are more important then they themselves, for without them they get nothing.

The end result is that eventually everyone realizes that only the top people ever get anything, and you end up with hundreds of sites with dozens of lists with 10 or so people on ever list (with a few exceptions).

The end is near, you can almost hear the matrix sites falling like dominoes.

[BobbyJacobs]

This is interesting, Shelby and Dog.

Disclaimer: I have no opinion in the legality of matrix sites, and I don't think anyone can say one or the other is lying about the legal issues. Those are to be worked out by higher powers than either of them.

I only judge by what a man has to say and how he says it.

Dog has carefully worded his posts and been careful to avoid slinging mud (except the baby post - that was way uncool). He responds to questions (again it's matter of opinion whether anyone wants to agree or not) and maintains an air of civility.

On the other hand, I could SHOW you (yeah I saved them) some of the stuff Shelby posted about Yours Truly (all of it later deleted) that would appear to be written after a couple beers too many. (BTW kids, never drink & type) In addition to being a failure as a businessman, Shelby cannot express himself without some sort of childish attitude popping thru.

I hear Dog has banned some folks, that was before my time here and I don't know or care anything about that. But from what I've seen, the censorship levels here are very very low compared to matrixforum. Or rather when Shelby ran matrixforum. He's just a peon now. He and his flunkies got spanked when Daddy came back home.

Shelby:
I was a happy lurker till you started punking me off. All over a question you didn't want to or couldn't answer. All I have to do is keep track of your site and ask a simple question or two and that's enough - I don't even have to sue you to piss you off, but
I scare you just as badly don't I? I must, because you know who holds the record for posts/threads deleted at matrixforum? The same guy who holds the record for being banned from it. Me.
Because of your incapacity to face issues.

So in closing, between the two of you, Dog's not lied to me yet. We don't agree on everything and that's ok too.
But you, Shelby have and worse, have to a lot of other people not because you're a talented liar, but because you're a dimwit and just flat don't know what to say.

Fool.


Bobby

[peterdragin]

Darn I got kicked of Shelbys forum after 2 posts, and I did not use any foul words.

All I did was ask a question that he didn't like and got bumped, asked it again and got booted!!

I feel bad now.. Boo Hoo !!

[virology76]

Not to promote the matrix or anything, but our friend sexystudpapp17 has a little bit of a point, it is just not worded well. If people continue to join these matrices even after all that has happened, is it not true that they should know better? What does it take for some of you to admit that some people are stupid and join the sites regardless of the risk? Is it impossible to think that some of the people that join actually know what they are getting into?
I just think sometimes we try too hard to protect people from making bad choices...

[peterdragin]

Sure but the problem is that all these scammers on Ebay make it sound like a sure thing.

Here is the description from one of the Ebay auctions !!!

This is a Brand New Gateway 42" Plasma Television. Can you imagine this sitting in your living room! Features Include: Description: 42" plasma display TV Color: Silver with black border banding and trim Most similar model to compare: Panasonic TH-PWD5UY, NEC MP3 All Necessary installation items You are bidding on a web site where you can get this Gateway 42" Plasma TV for $150!!!

Here's another one.

This auction brings you one step closer to this amazing offer. However, be assured that this is an honest deal. It may take a few WEEKS or MONTHS to get yours, but if you can wait, you'll save a ton of money! Trust me, you CAN'T go wrong. Try it and you'll see that you will never pay full price for ANYTHING ever again (from personal experience). But keep in mind, I am not the direct seller, I only help advertise the site that does sell them for that cheap. So, do NOT e-mail me asking if can buy one from me. I have three that I got through that website, but I AM NOT selling them.


Ya Trust me , This guy just bought this info on matrix sites 3 weeks ago!! and he already has three TV's BULL !!!!
He is as dishonest as the people who run the sites !!!

[poorme]

Only small number of people can get the "gift". What about the other losers? It is bad to take other's money. It is some kind of stealing.

[mikv]

I have just joined and have not had the time to read through this whole site, but I'm curious...Why aren't any of you fighting corporations like Tyco, Enron, Worldcom, or any of the other "major" contributors to the lives you lead? Car insurance, DMV, and Auto Dealerships rip off people every day way more than ANY Matrix site has, but I don't see any of the "avengers" of the people like some of you try to be fighting those causes. It's funny that this site is so dedicated to taking down an industry that has NO BEARING on the rest of the world with such a passion. We get ripped off by the government and major corporations on a daily basis and I don't see anybody fighting for the people there. If you all really have the power to "make a difference", why not start with the "REAL CROOKS"....The owner of Tyco embezzled MILLIONS of "tax paying" dollars, which in turn "robbed the common folk" that you all are trying to protect, but I don't see or hear of you taking on those battles. Of course I understand the companies I've mentioned are probably way too big for the little guys to handle, but why not cooberate and coordinate to take those criminals on. I understand WHY this site exists and I believe what has been stated in these forums is valid, although it's hard for me to believe that there are this many supposed "fighters of the people" with nothing other to do than gossip back and forth on this forum. I pose this question to all, WHAT'S NEXT?? Just say you are able to TAKE OUT every Matrix site out there...Where do you go from there?? Hopefully NOT back to your little corner or under the rock from where you crawled. I hope I see the Watchdog taking on the "really serious" matters when he's done playing games with these Matrix Site Owners. Also any "supporters" of watchdog, what do you do next? This site is very entertaining and put together nicely, props to the site builder. I think Watchdog is a smart person and has his head and intentions in the right place, but he's utilizing his resources in the wrong battles. Thanks to all for such entertaining postings. Although the "intellectual tone" that most of you try to "FRONT" does not work when there are that many "TYPOS" in what you are saying. I wish you all Good Luck in your endeavours. Peace!

[hurley9192]

You have a great point...

Actually, I do try to fight against those causes as well...but this site is DEDICATED to fighting matrices. There are other forums out there that fight these other powers.

My wife and I both used to work for Andersen, so the Enron debacle hit us because she lost her job and had no contact with anyone from Houston.

I've signed petitions and helped raise money for some of these fights that affect us, but as far as this site is concerned, it is a site wholly dedicated to fighting the matrix world.

make sense??

I also agree on the typo thing...